Re: Egg allergy

[Guest guest]

Jody,

I would be interested in the chicken salad recipe with avocado. I'm trying

to get my son to eat avocados.

Have you ever thought of doing some sort of diet consulting? You're

obviously one of those people that can look into a refrigerator and " see " a

gourmet

meal wheras I just see " leftovers " . It's a gift that I don't have.

I initially joined Elaine's children at the beginning of the year and tried

the diet with my 5 year old son for several weeks. He became bloated and I

eventually gave up and started back adding in limited carbs like cream of

buckwheat and brown rice. From there we got some millet bread from Deland's

bakery

and it was quite a treat for him to finally eat bread again for the first time

in almost 2 years. I would really like to see my son healed though and

nothing seems to have worked so far (GFCF did almost nothing for him) so I'm

back

here again. Also my 2 year old's recurrent diarrhea is back again & one day I

noted that her lunch passed through into her stool in 6 hours! If anything I

really NEED to try SCD with her but she's going to be an even more difficult

case as she attends a Jewish preschool and all food that is brought in to the

school has to be kosher. (I'm at a loss as I'm not Jewish and my pots aren't

Kosher).

If anyone knows any good recipes for a picky eater that is deathly allergic

to peanuts, mildly allergic to pecans (both IgE) & intolerant (IgG) to pumpkin,

(I suspect butternut squash which we lived on when SCD before), mustard, egg

(+3), sesame, most nuts(+1 to +2), canola, citrus, tomato, peas, etc PLEASE

let me know. I haven't had the heart to check the 2 year old for allergies but

her lunch and snack for school have to be kosher and we avoid peanuts for her

as well.

Thanks,

Vicki

[Guest guest]

Hi Joyce,

The problem with almonds is not really a problem at all.

You can use any other nut that your daughter doesn't react to.

I use walnuts, cashews and pecans a lot, not because of allergy, but

because I like the taste better.

(I cannot use peanuts because my younger son is allergic to them.)

Eggs are a more complicated problem because eggs serve more than one

purpose in baking. The best egg substitute that I have come up with is

using gelatin and extra baking soda. If your daughter can tolerate

gelatin, let me know and I will post the directions for using gelatin

instead of eggs.

In recipes that call for mayonnaise, I just subsitute avocado. It makes

a really delicious chicken salad.

Jody

mom to -4.9 and -7.0

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Is it possible for you to separate out for us the foods that were

reactive on the IgE test vs. the IgG test?

Also, do you know of a really good link that explains what is kosher and

what is not? I am not Jewish and the kosher snacks/lunch would be

impossible for me to even begin to guess at.

I am sure that we can think of something though.

I just need to understand the possible foods I can choose from.

Jody

[Guest guest]

Hi Jody,

The nuts (peanuts & pecans) were the IgE and all other allergies were IgG

(nuts, pumpkin, mustard, peas, canola, egg, rice, etc). I seem to recall that

Elaine doesn't think much of the IgG food allergies. Also, we see Dr Hicks and

he allows us to have +1 and +2 intolerances no more often than every 4th day.

The one +3 was egg and he said to avoid for 6 months (which we have) and

then every 4th day.

I'm not Jewish either, but I think you can't combine meat and dairy. The

biggest problem is that my pots aren't kosher. I think a rabbi has to do that?

I don't know. Maybe someone else on the list knows. They will allow us to

bring in cupcakes for birthday so maybe I could send muffins made from almond

flour for snack. (My son is the one with the nut issues & allergy tests. He

doesn't attend the same school and have the kosher issues. He's also my picky,

picky eater). I try to rotate their foods every 4th day so the list won't get

any longer, but I suppose she could eat a muffin each day or maybe Monday and

Friday which leaves me Wednesday to come up with a suitable snack. (She

attends the little Jewish preschool on M-W-F) I could send fruit but I don't

know if

they'll let me bring cooked fruit because of the pot issue.

Basically, I need a 4 day menu that I can rotate. My son takes his lunch to

school which is usually leftovers from the previous dinner and a snack. If I

could come up with 4 meals + 4 snacks that travel well I might be able to do

it.

I'm wondering why he had such problems with bloating when I tried this diet

earlier in the year. I'm pretty sure I gave it nearly 3 months. Of course we

also had taken bethanechol which he did really poorly on so maybe that had

something to do with it. I'm desperate enough that I'll give it another try

especially since my youngest is having so many problems with diarrhea. It sure

was

nice to have millet bread so we could take short weekend trips again.

Sorry for all the rambling. Long day here.........

Vicki

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Don't give up on the idea of weekend trips just because the millet bread

is out.

I use pancakes made in a 7 inch skillet (so the pancakes are uniform in

size) and I make sandwiches using them. We just have round sandwiches.

I suppose you could get one of those really small square skillets if

your kids insist on square bread.

I don't think that Elaine totally dismisses the IgG allergy tests, but

it seems to me that she considers them to be a sign of gut malfunction

rather than a good judge of what foods kids are actually allergic to.

Since most kids have high scores to foods that they eat a lot, it shows

that they are having leaky gut problems and that their bodies have made

antibodies to the foods that they consume a lot. Food particles are

getting out of the intestine and into the body where they are seen as

" invaders " .

I think her idea is that once you stop the complex carbs and you stop

the leaky gut, you will stop the reactions to the foods that showed up

on the IgG test because there will no longer be food particles leaking

into their systems. No more " invaders " = no more IgG reactions.

Can Kosher food be cooked in glass? If so, why don't you go to WalMart

or someplace and purchase one Pyrex stove top pot? That way you could

cook your daughter's food for preschool in it and you could bake fruit

(and other stuff) for her in a pyrex baking dish as well.

Since the preschool has the Kosher rule about food brought in, I think

they they would have to be able to provide you with a list of rules that

need to be followed. Once you get a list of rules from them, you could

post them and I am sure that we can come up with some ideas.

Jody

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mamommy2001@... wrote:

> ...she attends a Jewish preschool and all food that is brought in to the

> school has to be kosher. (I'm at a loss as I'm not Jewish and my pots

> aren't Kosher).

You mean they don't allow any homemade food, only commercial packaged food

with a kosher certification on the label? What, do they check each kid's

lunch to make sure it only contains foods in sealed packages with a kosher

symbols? Because if they're allowing parents to send along homemade food

then there's no guarantee whatsoever that only kosher food will be sent in.

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Jody G. momtobandj@... wrote:

> Also, do you know of a really good link that explains what is kosher and

> what is not?

http://www.ou.org/kosher/primer.html

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mamommy2001@... wrote:

> I'm not Jewish either, but I think you can't combine meat and dairy.

Yes, and the meat and dairy each need to be kosher on their own.

> The biggest problem is that my pots aren't kosher. I think a rabbi has to

> do that?

Not all non-kosher pots and utensils can be made kosher. It depends on

what they're made out of and how they're used. For those that can be

kashered, it's a good idea to consult a qualified rabbi for technical

guidance but it is not necessary for a rabbi to do the actual kashering,

just someone who is observant and knowledgeable. To make an entire kitchen

kosher is an enormous undertaking and requires commitment on the part of

the family to carefully maintaining the kashrus of the kitchen,

necessitating a great deal of practical knowledge of the kosher rules in

order to deal with all of the complexities.

> They will allow us to bring in cupcakes for birthday

Do they specify that the cupcakes must be the prepackaged kind with a

kosher symbol or that they must come from a kosher bakery? Or do they

allow homemade ones?

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Jody G. momtobandj@... wrote:

> Can Kosher food be cooked in glass?

Kosher food can be cooked in any kind of utensil, as long as that utensil

has only been used for kosher food - meat if it's a meat utensil, dairy if

it's a dairy utensil.

> If so, why don't you go to WalMart or someplace and purchase one Pyrex

> stove top pot? That way you could cook your daughter's food for preschool

> in it

The spoon for stirring the pot would also have to be kosher.

> and you could bake fruit (and other stuff) for her in a pyrex baking dish

> as well.

The oven would have to be kosher, and the utensils would have to be washed

separately from non-kosher utensils, with separate sponges, scrubbies,

towels, etc.

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Deanna,

Thanks for explaining things.

I was just thinking that maybe she could go out and get one stovetop pan

and one oven pan and use them only for making kosher food to be sent to

pre-school with her daughter.

I was thinking that by getting a glass pan it would be easy to keep it

separate from her other pans and easy for other family members to NOT

use for other things.

I hadn't thought about the utensils. Maybe she could buy some a

different color from the ones she usually uses. That way they could be

easily identified and stored separately.

Thanks for the link. I will read it tomorrow.

Jody

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Deanna,

Actually they serve the meals there. My biggest problem is their lunches are

really heavy into carbs. I already provide her snacks because of the

gluten/casein free issues but if I put her on SCD I'll have to find other

snacks

that I can send . They nearly always have a fruit and vegetable with lunch and

that's what they've been giving her. Some days it's french fries, etc though.

I may have to pick her up before lunch which cuts into both of our days.

They really restrict what can be brought in because of the Kosher issue or I

would just send her a lunch each day like I do with my son.

Vicki

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Someone in my boat! My son is allergic to eggs too and this has

been a hard thing to work around so far (9 days into this diet).

Some people here (on the Lyris board) gave me some great suggestions

that I'm passing on to you.

First, The staples for my guy are meat and veggies and slowly

introducing fruits and nuts as we go. There are recipes on

pecanbread.com that have egg-free recipes. My son likes the peanut

butter cookie recipe and the almond flour recipe as well as the

muffin recipe in BTVC. The key to the baked goods that I got which

helps is: 1/2 cup pureed fruit (banana, apple, pear, etc.) for each

egg BUT you also have to add some extra flour to make it the right

consistency AND here's the important one: you have to cook it at a

lower temperature for a lot longer than the recipe calls for and be

oh-so-patient!

I think I ruined probably 6 recipes before I figured out what I was

doing wrong AND I still can't make pancakes that work out. It takes

a lot more time without eggs but it's worth it if they like

something you make.

Good luck. Feel free to email me offline. I'm not an expert but I

can help you with the ones that have worked for me and the new ones

I'm working on.

Sondra

steviesarasmom@...

> I'm at the breaking point with my son's gut issues. He must have

a

> colonoscopy on Jan. 15th with Dr. Krigsman. My son's bm's often

come

> out as pure liquid. I think the diet is his only hope to heal his

> gut. However, he is allergic to eggs. So many of the recipies

that

> look good for giving kids a treat contain eggs. It does not

appear

> that egg substitutes are legal. Any feedback on how to get around

> the egg issue and/or Dr. Krigsman experiences would be really

> helpful. Many thanks, mom to 4.3 year old autistic.

[Guest guest]

If anyone has a secret to making egg free pancakes turn out, I'd love to

hear it.

Thanks,

Re: Egg allergy

Someone in my boat! My son is allergic to eggs too and this has

been a hard thing to work around so far (9 days into this diet).

Some people here (on the Lyris board) gave me some great suggestions

that I'm passing on to you.

First, The staples for my guy are meat and veggies and slowly

introducing fruits and nuts as we go. There are recipes on

pecanbread.com that have egg-free recipes. My son likes the peanut

butter cookie recipe and the almond flour recipe as well as the

muffin recipe in BTVC. The key to the baked goods that I got which

helps is: 1/2 cup pureed fruit (banana, apple, pear, etc.) for each

egg BUT you also have to add some extra flour to make it the right

consistency AND here's the important one: you have to cook it at a

lower temperature for a lot longer than the recipe calls for and be

oh-so-patient!

I think I ruined probably 6 recipes before I figured out what I was

doing wrong AND I still can't make pancakes that work out. It takes

a lot more time without eggs but it's worth it if they like

something you make.

Good luck. Feel free to email me offline. I'm not an expert but I

can help you with the ones that have worked for me and the new ones

I'm working on.

Sondra

steviesarasmom@...

> I'm at the breaking point with my son's gut issues. He must have

a

> colonoscopy on Jan. 15th with Dr. Krigsman. My son's bm's often

come

> out as pure liquid. I think the diet is his only hope to heal his

> gut. However, he is allergic to eggs. So many of the recipies

that

> look good for giving kids a treat contain eggs. It does not

appear

> that egg substitutes are legal. Any feedback on how to get around

> the egg issue and/or Dr. Krigsman experiences would be really

> helpful. Many thanks, mom to 4.3 year old autistic.