Re: Apple Butter / Sesame Seed

[Guest guest]

,

I think that apple butter will be way to thin to susbtitute for peanut

butter. I have not even had that much success substituting other nut

butter for peanut butter (without altering the recipe) because the other

nut butters are thinner than peanut butter.

I have made " pancakes " out of pureed cooked chicken and eggs. The

pancakes have a bread-like texture although there is is no flour at all.

If you are interested I will post the recipe that I made up. I have

made it using ground turkey as well, but the pancakes do not come out

looking the traditional tan pancake color. But they do taste good.

I also have another flour-less recipe for coconut pancakes. I can post

that too if you are interested.

As for substituting sesame seeds (or any seeds) for nuts to make the the

granola bars, I don't see why you couldn't. BUT you should realize that

nuts and seeds are only allowed after several months on the diet. So,

it would not be a good idea to give them right away. You will not see

the results you are looking for if you introduce them too soon.

I guess one question I have for you is why is it so important that your

son have a bread-like snack for school? Why can't he just eat fruit?

It seems to me that you are making this a lot harder for yourself than

you need to. Just relax and try not to find a perfect substitute for

" regular " food. Baked fruit is actually really tasty. If you need

suggestions on how to make it, just let us know.

Jody

[Guest guest]

I would love those 2 pancake receipes. All my son is eating is very ripe bananas, the squash muffin peanut butter sandwiches and eggs. I would love for him to eat meats and fruits/veggies BUT he's so picky!

Any suggestions...I'll try anything!

One other question...is Welch's grape juice 100 percent still legal?

Thanks!

Jimmy ASD (1+ weeks on diet)"Jody G." wrote:

,I think that apple butter will be way to thin to susbtitute for peanut butter. I have not even had that much success substituting other nut butter for peanut butter (without altering the recipe) because the other nut butters are thinner than peanut butter. I have made "pancakes" out of pureed cooked chicken and eggs. The pancakes have a bread-like texture although there is is no flour at all. If you are interested I will post the recipe that I made up. I have made it using ground turkey as well, but the pancakes do not come out looking the traditional tan pancake color. But they do taste good.I also have another flour-less recipe for coconut pancakes. I can post that too if you are interested.As for substituting sesame seeds (or any seeds) for nuts to make the the granola bars, I don't see why you couldn't. BUT

you should realize that nuts and seeds are only allowed after several months on the diet. So, it would not be a good idea to give them right away. You will not see the results you are looking for if you introduce them too soon.I guess one question I have for you is why is it so important that your son have a bread-like snack for school? Why can't he just eat fruit? It seems to me that you are making this a lot harder for yourself than you need to. Just relax and try not to find a perfect substitute for "regular" food. Baked fruit is actually really tasty. If you need suggestions on how to make it, just let us know. :)Jody

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody ....

Saturday - he still had potato bread

Starting last Sunday - he stopped taking any rice, potatoes, potato

bread -

For breakfast, he had almound cereal

For snack - peanut butter cookie

Lunch - scrambled eggs

Snack - chickpea cookie (oops)

Dinner - Chicken soup (recipe from book)

Drinks - dole pineapple juice and diluted pear juice

Monday - Almost the same thing as Sunday minus the chickpea cookie

Snack - Banana, zucchini muffin

He had 3 sandy poops, still soft but better compared to the other

days.

TUesday - same as Sunday

Breakfast - banana pancake

The reason why I have to come up with cookie is that he really

reacts to eating just apple, he can tolerate bananana but he reacts

to high phenol fruits. The pre-school has been giving him other

fruits in the past but he does not like it. So my first feeling is

to give him some sort of cookie or similar.

Please post any recipe that I can use. I cooked the macaroons last

night so I hope he ate it.

THanks again.

PS 3.25 yrs old has been GFCFSF,corn free for 6 months. But

he still stims a lot but making progress in some other areas.

> ,

>

> I think that apple butter will be way to thin to susbtitute for

peanut

> butter. I have not even had that much success substituting other

nut

> butter for peanut butter (without altering the recipe) because the

other

> nut butters are thinner than peanut butter.

>

> I have made " pancakes " out of pureed cooked chicken and eggs. The

> pancakes have a bread-like texture although there is is no flour

at all.

> If you are interested I will post the recipe that I made up. I

have

> made it using ground turkey as well, but the pancakes do not come

out

> looking the traditional tan pancake color. But they do taste good.

>

> I also have another flour-less recipe for coconut pancakes. I can

post

> that too if you are interested.

>

> As for substituting sesame seeds (or any seeds) for nuts to make

the the

> granola bars, I don't see why you couldn't. BUT you should

realize that

> nuts and seeds are only allowed after several months on the diet.

So,

> it would not be a good idea to give them right away. You will not

see

> the results you are looking for if you introduce them too soon.

>

> I guess one question I have for you is why is it so important that

your

> son have a bread-like snack for school? Why can't he just eat

fruit?

> It seems to me that you are making this a lot harder for yourself

than

> you need to. Just relax and try not to find a perfect substitute

for

> " regular " food. Baked fruit is actually really tasty. If you

need

> suggestions on how to make it, just let us know.

>

>

> Jody

[Guest guest]

,

Did you make all of the food he ate from scratch?

(almond cereal, peanut butter cookie)

I don't know of an approved legal pear juice.

Did you juice the pear yourself?

You can bake a lot more fruits than just apples.

I know that apples are always the first thing to come to mind.

What other fruits can he tolerate/will he eat?

I have baked cherries, blueberries, pears, apples, peaches, pineapple,

berries, etc.

You can change the flavor of the baked fruit by adding orange juice,

lemon juice, honey, cinnamon, etc.

That way it doesn't taste the same all the time.

I also change which fruits I cook together. That way it looks different

and tastes different too.

Do you think he would accept " dollar pancakes " for a snack.

(These are silver dollar-sized pancakes-about the same size as a cookie.)

Jody

[Guest guest]

Hi Jody... One confession I have to make is that I bought the almond

flour from HFS (this week is just very hectic, and at the same time

I wanted to start the SCD.) But I made the peanut butter cookie from

scratch.

For 6 months now following the GFCF diet - all the ingredients I

use are GFCF including the baking soda and the margarine I use is

Fleishmann. In the book, it is confusing if it is okay to use any

kind of butter, meaning regular ones, because that is a no-no at the

other diet.

So this weekend, I will buy bulk almonds and make flour. Our bulk

store also sells GF almond flour, so this is not okay, right?

With regards to the pear juice, it is an italian pear juice that we

dilute with lots of water, it is more a pear nectar juice. It seemed

that this is one of the few that he tolerates. I also started

giving him dole pineapple juice, and i still dilute it - oh yah,

welch's white grape juice (not canned, i am aware of the cocktail vs

concentrated)

HOw about the vitamins? He is taking kirkmans DMG, Super NuThera and

Houston's AFP and NoFenol. Are they SCD Legal. He is also taking a

probiotic but I will investigate for another brand that is SCd

Legal. You see we are here in Toronto Canada and it is such a pain

that we have to get most of our supplements from the states.

We started giving him cal-mg but i think it was making his bowel

more loose, so i hope to introduce him to the cottage cheese so he

can get some calcium there? Is kirkman's calcium supplement SCD

Legal?

In the other GFCF diet, there were regular moms who always answer my

inquiries in a very timely manner and it is always helpful. Just

like you, people like you really support us and turns our

frustration to hope and at least I don't feel so helpless and

hopeless.

I am re-reading the book, and my mom too - it is so easy to miss

things.

My hubby said that matthew had his poop this morning, more formed

but still sandy.

Thanks again....

PS Sorry kinda long answer.

> ,

>

> Did you make all of the food he ate from scratch?

> (almond cereal, peanut butter cookie)

>

> I don't know of an approved legal pear juice.

> Did you juice the pear yourself?

>

> You can bake a lot more fruits than just apples.

> I know that apples are always the first thing to come to mind.

>

> What other fruits can he tolerate/will he eat?

>

> I have baked cherries, blueberries, pears, apples, peaches,

pineapple,

> berries, etc.

>

> You can change the flavor of the baked fruit by adding orange

juice,

> lemon juice, honey, cinnamon, etc.

> That way it doesn't taste the same all the time.

> I also change which fruits I cook together. That way it looks

different

> and tastes different too.

>

> Do you think he would accept " dollar pancakes " for a snack.

> (These are silver dollar-sized pancakes-about the same size as a

cookie.)

>

>

> Jody

[Guest guest]

,

Does the almond flour you bought have a list of ingredients?

" Butter " means butter made from cow's milk in the recipes.

You can subsitute coconut oil (which is a solid at room temp) for butter

in the recipes.

Use slightly less coconut oil than butter.

I would not give him any more of the pear nectar since it is questionable.

To my knowledge there are no approved pear juices.

You could always use a juicer and make your own.

" HOw about the vitamins? He is taking kirkmans DMG, Super NuThera and

Houston's AFP and NoFenol. Are they SCD Legal. He is also taking a

probiotic but I will investigate for another brand that is SCd

Legal. "

It depends on which DMG he is taking. The SuperNuThera liquid is not

legal. The Houston's enzymes are also not legal. The only probiotic

recommended is acidophilus. No Bifidus is allowed.

I honestly don't know about the Kirkman's calcium. I know that

has been working on the list of legal SCD supplements. Here

is a link. http://www.geocities.com/scd_post/sup.html

Also, keep in mind when you read the book that it was not written for

kids with autism. Elaine and Mimi have worked on a protocol for kids

with autism. The dairy is NOT introduced in the beginning stage of the

diet. Also, goat yogurt is recommended over cow yogurt. All yogurt

must be made from scratch following Elaine's directions. I would not

recommend giving cow DCCC immediately.

There is a lot of information on Mimi's site. http://www.pecanbread.com

There is also Elaine's site which is up and running and has a great deal

of info and a handy legal/illegal list that is alphabetized to make

finding answers easy and quick.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

Jody

[Guest guest]

Just a thought here- chickpea flour in itself can make for horrible poops.

Before we were SCD, we gave our son a chickpea flour granola bar type of a

snack and the results were disgusting for some time. It might just be a

matter of getting that out of his system.

Re: Apple Butter / Sesame Seed

> Thanks Jody ....

>

> Saturday - he still had potato bread

>

> Starting last Sunday - he stopped taking any rice, potatoes, potato

> bread -

>

> For breakfast, he had almound cereal

> For snack - peanut butter cookie

> Lunch - scrambled eggs

> Snack - chickpea cookie (oops)

> Dinner - Chicken soup (recipe from book)

> Drinks - dole pineapple juice and diluted pear juice

>

> Monday - Almost the same thing as Sunday minus the chickpea cookie

> Snack - Banana, zucchini muffin

> He had 3 sandy poops, still soft but better compared to the other

> days.

>

> TUesday - same as Sunday

> Breakfast - banana pancake

>

>

> The reason why I have to come up with cookie is that he really

> reacts to eating just apple, he can tolerate bananana but he reacts

> to high phenol fruits. The pre-school has been giving him other

> fruits in the past but he does not like it. So my first feeling is

> to give him some sort of cookie or similar.

>

> Please post any recipe that I can use. I cooked the macaroons last

> night so I hope he ate it.

>

> THanks again.

>

>

>

> PS 3.25 yrs old has been GFCFSF,corn free for 6 months. But

> he still stims a lot but making progress in some other areas.

>

> > ,

> >

> > I think that apple butter will be way to thin to susbtitute for

> peanut

> > butter. I have not even had that much success substituting other

> nut

> > butter for peanut butter (without altering the recipe) because the

> other

> > nut butters are thinner than peanut butter.

> >

> > I have made " pancakes " out of pureed cooked chicken and eggs. The

> > pancakes have a bread-like texture although there is is no flour

> at all.

> > If you are interested I will post the recipe that I made up. I

> have

> > made it using ground turkey as well, but the pancakes do not come

> out

> > looking the traditional tan pancake color. But they do taste good.

> >

> > I also have another flour-less recipe for coconut pancakes. I can

> post

> > that too if you are interested.

> >

> > As for substituting sesame seeds (or any seeds) for nuts to make

> the the

> > granola bars, I don't see why you couldn't. BUT you should

> realize that

> > nuts and seeds are only allowed after several months on the diet.

> So,

> > it would not be a good idea to give them right away. You will not

> see

> > the results you are looking for if you introduce them too soon.

> >

> > I guess one question I have for you is why is it so important that

> your

> > son have a bread-like snack for school? Why can't he just eat

> fruit?

> > It seems to me that you are making this a lot harder for yourself

> than

> > you need to. Just relax and try not to find a perfect substitute

> for

> > " regular " food. Baked fruit is actually really tasty. If you

> need

> > suggestions on how to make it, just let us know.

> >

> >

> > Jody

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm having a hard time locating yogurt starter without Bifidus...Any suggestions?

Thanks"Jody G." wrote:

,Does the almond flour you bought have a list of ingredients?"Butter" means butter made from cow's milk in the recipes.You can subsitute coconut oil (which is a solid at room temp) for butter in the recipes.Use slightly less coconut oil than butter.I would not give him any more of the pear nectar since it is questionable.To my knowledge there are no approved pear juices.You could always use a juicer and make your own. :)" HOw about the vitamins? He is taking kirkmans DMG, Super NuThera andHouston's AFP and NoFenol. Are they SCD Legal. He is also taking aprobiotic but I will investigate for another brand that is SCdLegal."It depends on which DMG he is taking. The SuperNuThera liquid is not legal. The Houston's enzymes are also not legal. The only probiotic recommended is acidophilus. No Bifidus is

allowed.I honestly don't know about the Kirkman's calcium. I know that has been working on the list of legal SCD supplements. Here is a link. http://www.geocities.com/scd_post/sup.htmlAlso, keep in mind when you read the book that it was not written for kids with autism. Elaine and Mimi have worked on a protocol for kids with autism. The dairy is NOT introduced in the beginning stage of the diet. Also, goat yogurt is recommended over cow yogurt. All yogurt must be made from scratch following Elaine's directions. I would not recommend giving cow DCCC immediately.There is a lot of information on Mimi's site. http://www.pecanbread.comThere is also Elaine's site which is up and running and has a great deal of info and a handy legal/illegal list that is alphabetized to make finding answers easy and quick.http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infoJody

[Guest guest]

You will have to make it yourself. I don't think anyone has found a legal

store bought yogurt. It's unfortunate, but so far true.

[Guest guest]

Lucy's Kitchen sells starter but it's not goat if that's what you're looking

for

[Guest guest]

Jody ,

Are you suggesting only cooked fruit in kids lunch??I have to say that it is really hard to NOT have more options in a childs lunch, especially at school. I would love some postings on the nutless snacks you mentioned.. That sounds wonderful.

[Guest guest]

Yes, in the beginning stage of the diet all fruit should be peeled,

seeded and cooked. The only exceptions are very, very ripe bananas and

avocados.

For lunches, I think a thermos is your best investment. That way you

can send " real " food for lunch rather than having to rely on snack-type

things for lunches.

I realize that many (if not most) of the other kids who bring their

lunches bring nothing more than a selection of junk food. Practically

all of the food marketed to kids these days is junk food.

We have two really nice thermos jars. They are stainless steel on the

inside and they keep food HOT for several hours. They weren't cheap,

but they are worth every penny because it allows us to take foods like

soups and meats and serve them warm.

Jody