Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 Just out of curiousity.....how many here have pre-pro kids? And how many of those are in A-V or Oral settings? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 In a message dated 10/3/99 12:05:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jfwagne@... writes: << I have one oral pre-pro in a mainstream third grade classroom. Also have one oral prelingual with a severe loss in a mainstream first grade classroom. Third-grader is a constant struggle, but he's hanging in there at grade level, first-grader is a breeze (extremely bright and no social problems.) Judy >> Thanks Judy. They sound like they are both doing well Did you sign to them at all? (you can email me off list if you feel more comfortable) I would love to keep in touch. (michigan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 I have one oral pre-pro in a mainstream third grade classroom. Also have one oral prelingual with a severe loss in a mainstream first grade classroom. Third-grader is a constant struggle, but he's hanging in there at grade level, first-grader is a breeze (extremely bright and no social problems.) Judy Re: Pre Pro kids? > From: Tazma24@... > > Just out of curiousity.....how many here have pre-pro kids? And how many of > those are in A-V or Oral settings? > > Thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 In a message dated 10/3/99 11:37:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tazma24@... writes: > > Just out of curiousity.....how many here have pre-pro kids? And how many of > > those are in A-V or Oral settings? > > Thanks. > My daughter, Stacey, age 20, is prelingually profoundly deaf. We followed AV since she was 18 months old. You can see her or listen to her on our website at www.nciohio.com (Click here: <A HREF= " http://www.nciohio.com/kids.htm " >Hear the Kids</A>) Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 Two pre-pro in an auditory-oral setting Chris At 11:37 AM 10/3/99 -0400, you wrote: >From: Tazma24@... > >Just out of curiousity.....how many here have pre-pro kids? And how many of >those are in A-V or Oral settings? > >Thanks. > > >>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post >is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to >copyright restrictions. << Christofer deHahn..................Manager, EDA Systems and Test >> << Quantum Corporation...........Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, USA >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 REmind me pre-pro--prelingual profound loss? In AV/oral setting. That would be us. Deb Tazma24@... wrote: > From: Tazma24@... > > Just out of curiousity.....how many here have pre-pro kids? And how many of > those are in A-V or Oral settings? > > Thanks. > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 I'm interested in the same question -- but wondering if any such kiddos were identified at or beyond age 3? Dana rodgers@... Jeff Irwin wrote: > > > REmind me pre-pro--prelingual profound loss? In AV/oral setting. That would be us. Deb > > Tazma24@... wrote: > > > From: Tazma24@... > > > > Just out of curiousity.....how many here have pre-pro kids? And how many of > > those are in A-V or Oral settings? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 Dana, >but wondering if any such kiddos were identified at or beyond age 3? is. He is 13. He was diagnosed at 8 m but had absolutely no residual hearing. Implanted at 3.5. Mainstreamed. Doing well. Uses phone, etc. N22. In AV therapy after implant (tried before but no response). Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 In a message dated 10/3/99 9:48:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, irwinsnc@... writes: << REmind me pre-pro--prelingual profound loss? In AV/oral setting. That would be us. Deb >> Yes. Sorry.. Oh ok....wow there are more of them (us) then I thought. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 In a message dated 10/3/99 9:54:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rodgers@... writes: << I'm interested in the same question -- but wondering if any such kiddos were identified at or beyond age 3? >> Its prelingually....profoundly deaf. For us....my daughter was identified at 11 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 In a message dated 10/4/99 1:37:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hexner@... writes: << is. He is 13. He was diagnosed at 8 m but had absolutely no residual hearing. Implanted at 3.5. Mainstreamed. Doing well. Uses phone, etc. N22. In AV therapy after implant (tried before but no response). Cheryl >> Sounds like he is doing well. Thats great. Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 In a message dated 10/3/99 8:38:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HEARinOH@... writes: << My daughter, Stacey, age 20, is prelingually profoundly deaf. We followed AV since she was 18 months old. You can see her or listen to her on our website at www.nciohio.com >> Ok....follow up question.......how many of the pre pro kids in an AV or oral setting do NOT have the Cochlear Implant? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 In a message dated 10/4/99 6:18:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tazma24@... writes: > > Ok....follow up question.......how many of the pre pro kids in an AV or oral > > setting do NOT have the Cochlear Implant? Thanks > , My daughter did not have an implant until two years ago (when she was 18 years old). I know many prelingually profoundy deaf children who do not have the CI and did wonderfully in an oral and AV setting. However, there are different degrees of profound hearing loss and Stacey does have hearing up to 3000 Hz, even though it is mostly at 115 and 120 DB after 2000 Hz. Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 In a message dated 10/4/99 5:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HEARinOH@... writes: << However, there are different degrees of profound hearing loss and Stacey does have hearing up to 3000 Hz, even though it is mostly at 115 and 120 DB after 2000 Hz. Betty >> oh really? My daughter is testing at 85 for 250 95 for 500 100 for 1,000 and 2,000 and 105 for 4,000 and 8,000 then nothing.....is this " good " ? WIth her Oticon Personics she is testing at 50-55 dBs across all frequencies but 4,000 at 60 dBs. We are going to try the Widex Sensos.....fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 Neither of mine are implanted. One wears linear aids, the other digital. Implants are always on the table for the future. Chris At 06:18 AM 10/4/99 -0400, you wrote: >From: Tazma24@... > >In a message dated 10/3/99 8:38:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HEARinOH@... >writes: > ><< > My daughter, Stacey, age 20, is prelingually profoundly deaf. We > followed AV > since she was 18 months old. You can see her or listen to her on our > website > at www.nciohio.com >> > >Ok....follow up question.......how many of the pre pro kids in an AV or oral >setting do NOT have the Cochlear Implant? Thanks > > >>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post >is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to >copyright restrictions. << Christofer deHahn..................Manager, EDA Systems and Test >> << Quantum Corporation...........Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, USA >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 You should also try the Phonak Novo Forte E4. Chris At 09:48 PM 10/4/99 -0400, you wrote: >From: Tazma24@... > >In a message dated 10/4/99 5:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HEARinOH@... >writes: > ><< However, there are > different degrees of profound hearing loss and Stacey does have hearing up >to > 3000 Hz, even though it is mostly at 115 and 120 DB after 2000 Hz. > > Betty >> > >oh really? My daughter is testing at 85 for 250 95 for 500 100 for 1,000 >and 2,000 and 105 for 4,000 and 8,000 then nothing.....is this " good " ? WIth >her Oticon Personics she is testing at 50-55 dBs across all frequencies but >4,000 at 60 dBs. >We are going to try the Widex Sensos.....fingers crossed. > >>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post >is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to >copyright restrictions. << Christofer deHahn..................Manager, EDA Systems and Test >> << Quantum Corporation...........Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, USA >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 1999 Report Share Posted October 4, 1999 In a message dated 10/4/99 10:03:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dehahn@... writes: << You should also try the Phonak Novo Forte E4. >> oh really? No one has ever mentioned this one. Is this for a profound loss? about how much gain do they give? Thanks Chris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 1999 Report Share Posted October 5, 1999 I've mentioned it many times, just not on this list. 84dB of gain. For severe-profound losses. Chris At 04:45 AM 10/5/99 -0400, you wrote: >From: Tazma24@... > >In a message dated 10/4/99 10:03:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dehahn@... >writes: > ><< You should also try the Phonak Novo Forte E4. >> > >oh really? No one has ever mentioned this one. Is this for a profound loss? > about how much gain do they give? > >Thanks Chris! > > >>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post >is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to >copyright restrictions. << Christofer deHahn..................Manager, EDA Systems and Test >> << Quantum Corporation...........Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, USA >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 Hanni is pre pro. She uses Pico Fortes, she's had the same pair since she was an infant. Every once in a while one or another of the audiologists (we deal with 3- the clinical audie we chose, the one from the school, and the one from the program where she gets extra speech therapy) will recommend that we get a stronger aid or an aid with more bells and whistles. We have resisted so far, because we can't turn the aids she's got now more than halfway up without getting intolerable feedback. What would be the point of stronger aids? We've tried multiple earmolds with multiple materials and it's always the same: turn it up past 3 or 3.5 and it's feedback time. Any suggestions? We're signing PSE with Hanni. The speech therapist is also using CS with her for making specific sounds more visible. This year she is not in RSD. Hanni was in RSD kindergarten last year even though she was technically too young for it. She would have just done another year of kindergarten if we'd left her there. Instead, we put her in the kindergarten of Rochester City School #1. It seemed to us to be a more academically challenging class. #1 School has about 50 HI kids out of a population of 300. There are separate HI classes but the whole school is wired for FM and there are activities which involved all the kids together. Hanni's class includes both HI kids and hearing kids with speech and language problems- it's an experiment they didn't tell us about last Spring when we arranged the transfer and we are watching it with some misgiving. We also are nervous because the classes we visited had a lot more oral communication than we had seen at RSD and Hanni is not a very sound-aware child. However, Hanni LOVES her new school! So far so good. Leon Leon Metlay and Nina Klionsky metlionsky@... Making the world safe for dustbunnies since 1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 Hi Leon, My son (age 4-1/2) had Pico Fortes for the first six months after his diagnosis, before we got Widex Sensos for him. The feedback from the Pico Fortes was much worse than the Sensos, because the Sensos have some kind of feedback suppression programmed in. There still is some feedback when he begins to outgrow his earmolds, but it is not nearly as loud and annoying as it was with the Pico Fortes. I would assume that other aids with advanced features may have some feedback control system also, but I can only speak personally to the Sensos. Dixie > > >Hanni is pre pro. She uses Pico Fortes, she's had the same pair since she >was an infant. Every once in a while one or another of the audiologists (we >deal with 3- the clinical audie we chose, the one from the school, and the >one from the program where she gets extra speech therapy) will recommend >that we get a stronger aid or an aid with more bells and whistles. We have >resisted so far, because we can't turn the aids she's got now more than >halfway up without getting intolerable feedback. What would be the point of >stronger aids? We've tried multiple earmolds with multiple materials and >it's always the same: turn it up past 3 or 3.5 and it's feedback time. Any >suggestions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 My 9 year old daughter is pre-pro. She is mainstreamed in the fourth grade with a cued speech transliterator. Amy Schmidt At 11:37 AM 10/3/99 EDT, you wrote: >From: Tazma24@... > >Just out of curiousity.....how many here have pre-pro kids? And how many of >those are in A-V or Oral settings? > >Thanks. > > >>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 Leon - both of my HOH kids wear Pico Fortes, and we never turn them up to #4. My son's work optimally at setting 3 and my daughter's on setting 2.5. If we go higher, they complain about them being too loud, not to mention the fact that they start to feedback. By the way, I live in Rochester, too. I know someone else on this list was interested in info on Rochester (Jo, maybe?) I haven't lost your note, just WAY behind in responding to emails! Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 In a message dated 10/7/99 3:25:07 PM Central Daylight Time, Mmkop@... writes: << By the way, I live in Rochester, too. I know someone else on this list was interested in info on Rochester (Jo, maybe?) I haven't lost your note, just WAY behind in responding to emails! >> Yup that's me. By the way Thank You Leon for letting me know the info. I am still holding on to it. We are just waiting on news from the major air carriers there as to openings for my other half. Have a great day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 At 01:20 AM 10/7/99 -0400, you wrote: > > >Hanni is pre pro. She uses Pico Fortes, she's had the same pair since she >was an infant. Every once in a while one or another of the audiologists (we >deal with 3- the clinical audie we chose, the one from the school, and the >one from the program where she gets extra speech therapy) will recommend >that we get a stronger aid or an aid with more bells and whistles. We have >resisted so far, because we can't turn the aids she's got now more than >halfway up without getting intolerable feedback. What would be the point of >stronger aids? We've tried multiple earmolds with multiple materials and >it's always the same: turn it up past 3 or 3.5 and it's feedback time. Any >suggestions? The Pico Forte's that we have only go up to 4, so if you're getting 3 to 3.5, you're doing well. The gain depends on the internal settings, so how much amplification she's getting depends on how the audiologist set them up. I would have the audiologist test the aid in the coupler box, then do a real ear on your daughter. Chris << Christofer deHahn..................Manager, EDA Systems and Test >> << Quantum Corporation...........Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, USA >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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