Thanks

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01-02-01 11:52:27 EST, you write:

<< Would 140

be to high in your opinion? I'm a type 2 on glucophage.

>>

140 as max would be okay, I guess..but you'd still want to try for lower., if

you were willing to test frequently .V.

[Guest guest]

Randall, I've definitely been helped by some of your factual postings,

including the new one on saccharine/stevia/Splenda. Thank you. And thanks

to others for other helpful information.

I must admit some postings don't help at the time I first read them. When

I'm in a bad mood and craving chocolate and crackers and feeling sorry for

myself because I can't scarf them down anymore, I tend to mentally snarl and

scoff at ideas like trying to learn to like new vegetables. But then I

recover some mental balance and go back and read again and decide it's a good

idea. My biggest diabetes battle right now is between the rational part of

me that wants to take care of myself and the Dark Side that argues and

cajoles in favor of instant gratification via yummy carbs, and to heck with

the consequences. I must say that most supermarkets and TV food

commercials seem to be set up to help the Dark Side win:-). So this

listserve is really a welcome light saber.

[Guest guest]

- I agree about those commercials. Sometimes I want to throw a brick at

my tv screen-especially the pillsbury commercials :-)

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From: Grantridge@...

I must say that most supermarkets and TV food

commercials seem to be set up to help the Dark Side win:-). So this

listserve is really a welcome light saber.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Madge. I was feeling bad because I lost it and carb-binged this

afternoon, so your words of encouragement are much appreciated. I'll start

again tomorrow with new determination.

Incidently, AOL had a feature today on how to deal with stress, and it

suggested lots of potatoes and pasta because carbs raise serotonin levels.

Obviously that's terrible advice for diabetics, but given the reported link

between diabetes and depression, I thought it was interesting.

[Guest guest]

Good song, Madge, and exercise doesn't add any calories either! I can see

why you are winning and your diabetes is losing. Thanks much.

[Guest guest]

---You are right , it is hard to sometimes look at what we eat

in the right frame of mind. Given a choice of two, one good and one

that is definitely not the right choice, we do sometimes choose the

the one that is not right. It's a spur of the moment thing, not a

logical decision based on knowledge, just based on what we once knew

as being a had to have thing.

However, after telling myself that by choosing the wrong thing I may

lose my vision among other things that I would prefer to keep

including my life, I make a mental note never to eat without thought

and need to keep logic alive or I may not be in that state of being

for long. Sometimes even after thinking logically, the illogical

takes over and I fall to temptation. It takes a lot of

determination. 'taint easy but whoever said life was easy?!

Madge

In diabetes@y..., Grantridge@a... wrote:

> Randall, I've definitely been helped by some of your factual

postings,

> including the new one on saccharine/stevia/Splenda. Thank you.

And thanks

> to others for other helpful information.

>

> I must admit some postings don't help at the time I first read

them. When

> I'm in a bad mood and craving chocolate and crackers and feeling

sorry for

> myself because I can't scarf them down anymore, I tend to mentally

snarl and

> scoff at ideas like trying to learn to like new vegetables. But

then I

> recover some mental balance and go back and read again and decide

it's a good

> idea. My biggest diabetes battle right now is between the

rational part of

> me that wants to take care of myself and the Dark Side that argues

and

> cajoles in favor of instant gratification via yummy carbs, and to

heck with

> the consequences. I must say that most supermarkets and TV food

> commercials seem to be set up to help the Dark Side win:-). So

this

> listserve is really a welcome light saber.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- LOL on the eating lots of pasta and bread!!! Don't think I want

to be foggy brained!! Exercise will do the same as far as reducing

stress and no carbs in exercise!!! and it's free!!!!

HI Ho Hi HO its off for a walk we go

Hi Ho Hi HO where we'll go,we don't know

But a hiking we will go.

Down the path, through the trees

Watch the changing of the leaves.

Hi HO Hi HO its off for a walk we go

Hi HO HI Ho where we'll go, we don't know

But a hiking we will go.

Down the sidewalk, across the street

Its good exercise for heart and feet!

HI Ho Hi HO its off for a walk we go

Hi HO Hi HO where we'll go, we don't know

But a hiking we will go.

Explore new places, see new things

See the eagle soar as it spreads it wings!

Hi Ho Hi Ho its off for a walk we go

HI HO HI ho where we go, we don't know

But a hiking we will go.

Turn the corner and check out neighbors

Bringing in the fruits of their labors.

Hi Ho Hi HO its off for a walk we go

Hi Ho HI Ho where we'll go, we don't know

But a hiking we will go.

See the sunset in all its glory

As you stroll along so happily!

Madge

In diabetes@y..., Grantridge@a... wrote:

> Thanks, Madge. I was feeling bad because I lost it and carb-binged

this

> afternoon, so your words of encouragement are much appreciated.

I'll start

> again tomorrow with new determination.

>

> Incidently, AOL had a feature today on how to deal with stress, and

it

> suggested lots of potatoes and pasta because carbs raise serotonin

levels.

> Obviously that's terrible advice for diabetics, but given the

reported link

> between diabetes and depression, I thought it was interesting.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

---Was not always this way, . Not until I discovered the

diabetic lists did I really begin to learn so much and through the

help of people on here began to really work at lowering the numbers

and really began to want to do it. I lived in a land called denial

for a long time. Plus the fact I ate things that were said to be ok

to eat like bread and pasta. I have since dumped pasta and bread

from my list of things to eat. When I started this list not long

ago, my fasting readings were 150 and sometimes higher. Through

encouragement I saw with amazement double digits finally!!!!

I learned to use spices and to like foods I never thought I would eat

let alone enjoy. I am not hungry anymore nor do I crave carbs like I

used to. Once off them, that is the flour kind, the cravings ceased

after a short period of time.

I managed to finally get over my weak spot--bagels which are at work

every morning sitting invitingly on the kitchen table at work. I

just say NO!!!!!

THis morning they had donuts but they brought me a sugar free

muffin. I don't know how many carbs were in it. It was rather small

and my sugar did not go up much from it. That was my breakfast.

Started eating plain oatmeal mostly now in the morning, sometimes

with fruit if I have it. Had a peach in it yesterday. Peaches are

gone already!!! Everyone else around here likes them also. I tend

to stay away from bananas. They raise my sugar too much. I like

them but they do not like me! Don't feel like exercising after

breakfast so I have to watch what I eat. I also have the Keto cereal

which is very low carb and doesn;t taste bad at all. I use splenda

on it and fruit. Sometimes if no real fruit in the house, I will use

a little of low carb jelly or jam. Smukers makes it. It tastes good

in cereal! I also like nuts and discovered they are very low carb, I

get the lightly salted if I cant find any non salted ones. Just a few

satisfies me as a bedtime snack.

Well, keep on truckin there!! One day at a time. If you fall down,

get up, brush yourself off and start anew. You are human as we all

are.

I taught a lady in the market the other day how to read labels!! We

started talking in the cat food aisle and somehow got on diabetes and

she said her family has it and I noted she was a bit overweight so I

began telling her about really great things to substitute for the

high carbs she liked and how fun it was to ride a bike or go for a

walk. Then I asked her if she ever read the labels on various things

and did she know about carbs and fiber. She said no . So I grabbed

something out of my cart and showed her where it was listed and to

subtract the fiber and the total of that was the amount of total

carbs. She was happy, (or at least pretended to be such!) with what

I told her. It was fun for me anyway cause I love to talk and get

quite animated when I get on a subject that I like! My hands love to

move around a lot!!! Without them I think I would be silent!

Oh well, I am heading for bed. It got really late all of a sudden!

Have a good day

madge

In diabetes@y..., Grantridge@a... wrote:

> Good song, Madge, and exercise doesn't add any calories either!

I can see

> why you are winning and your diabetes is losing. Thanks much.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

and Dudley,

Thanks for the info and encouragement. I am determined to stop and/or

reverse this disease. It does seem though to be a very challenging

goal since what works for one person doesn't work for another and it

is difficult to determine the cause.

For me personally, I think the cause may have been my overuse of diet

coke (with nutrasweet). I used to drink diet coke as though it was

water--I would drink it all day and have no water at all, and this

went on for years. I also smoked cigarettes sometimes. I cut both of

these things out about 4 months ago when my symptoms began and have

been eating very healthy (mostly fruits and veggies) and lots of

water since then. So far no improvement.

I am planning to get an ELISA test and a Mercury test. I'm not quite

sure what else I can do to determine the cause or the particular

approach that will be right for me. Is it just trial and error?

, in response to your question, I don't have the fibroid surgery

scheduled yet but have been told the fibroid is " large and fast

growing " and therefore has to come out. But I have been more focused

on the MS and have not really been pursuing anything about the

fibroid.

Dudley, I looked at the websites you suggested. Can you tell me which

link provides a detailed plan by Cayce and where to get the wet cell

battery. I was having some trouble finding the specifics. You can

email me at luvcramer@...

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The good news is that even though you polluted your body (Me too, pepsi

was one of my weaknesses)

that it can cleanse, restore and repair itself. I will talk to you

further on the other forum.

trekkie323 wrote:

> and Dudley,

>

>Thanks for the info and encouragement. I am determined to stop and/or

>reverse this disease. It does seem though to be a very challenging

>goal since what works for one person doesn't work for another and it

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have they offered you an external catheter.

This takes time to fit and take off daily, but is much neater than pads.

I had one for 6 months after RRP, but by then had dried up enough to use a ladies night time pad back to front.

I change this every 24 hours mostly.

PS Good news - first grandson, brother to Hattie aged 8, arrived yesterday in York, UK. Weight just under 8lbs and called after my grandad!

Thanks

I wanted to take a moment and say how thankful I am that I found this group. I had radical prostrate surgery 3 weeks ago this coming Thursday. It has been helpful to me to read what others have gone through.My greatest frustration right now is the leaking. I have read the post that suggest reducing caffiene and alcohol intake as a means of helping reduce leaking. I must confess that it is hard to cut the caffiene, but I am going to try. I am wondering what sort of time frame others have seen for the leaking to stop. I am doing the Kekials to hel strenghten the muscles.