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Thanks, I needed that. I'm carrying a copy of it to my doctor, if I don't

forget it! Happy New Year...Carolyn...Keep smiling. You never know who's

life you'll touch with a simple smile!

[ ] Brain Fog?

> Does this explain " Brain Fog " or what!!! Sorry, this was just toooooo

funny

> to pass up. Enjoy!!! Pat (Cyndi's Mom) P.S. Happy New Year!!!! Here's

> hoping 2001 is a kinder and gentler year for us all.

>

>

> >My forgetter's getting better

> >

> >But my rememberer is broke

> >

> >to you that may seem funny

> >

> >but, to me, that is no joke

> >

> >For when I'm " here " I'm wondering

> >

> >If I really should be " there "

> >

> >And, when I try to think it through,

> >

> >I haven't got a prayer!

> >

> >Oft times I walk into a room,

> >

> >Say " what am I here for? "

> >

> >I wrack my brain, but all in vain

> >

> >A zero, is my score.

> >

> >At times I put something away

> >

> >Where it is safe, but, Gee!

> >

> >The person it is safest from

> >

> >Is, generally, me!

> >

> >When shopping I may see someone,

> >

> >Say " Hi " and have a chat,

> >

> >Then, when the person walks away

> >

> >I ask myself, " who's that? "

> >

> >Yes, my forgetter's getting better

> >

> >While my rememberer is broke,

> >

> >And it's driving me plumb crazy

> >

> >And that isn't any joke.

> >

> >CAN YOU RELATE???

> >

> >I don't remember who I sent this to.

> >

> >

>

>

>

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, here's a reference someone sent on prednisone and memory problems.

http://www.msnews.org/premem.shtml

I, too, feel my memory is much, much poorer than it was a year ago when I began taking prednisone. I don't seem to juggle things as well, either, or to deal with conflicting appointments, etc. A year ago, before prednisone, I felt extremely competent, extremely sharp. Now, I don't. I don't know if that is simply the effect of being one year older, of loss of confidence after illness, of laziness, or if there's a direct link to the disease and its effects.

I keep thinking of another possibility: High blood pressure seems to be related to cognitive loss; the effect is said to be cumulative rather than immediately discernible. High blood pressure and prednisone use are often linked, according to what I've read. (My hepatologist says he isn't aware of any such relationship.) My blood pressure was high to begin with. I wonder if "brain fog," for some few of us, may be related to high blood pressure.

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To Judy, , others writing of brain fog:

Do you know if high ammonia levels can occur even with normal lab tests?

I've had good test results for several months now, but I still don't feel I can trust my mind as I did a year ago, pre-diagnosis.

Harper (AIH 5/00)

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Hey,

I read your e-mail and I too started noticing subtle

mistakes and forgetfulness. I attributed it to being

44 and so much on my mind,but I did mention it to my

gastro. Dr. and he had my ammonia level checked. This

can cause brain fog, mine was doubled and he placed me

on Lactulose which is a laxative to pull the ammonia

from your system. I go in 2 weeks to have it checked

again to see if the med has improved it. I hate the

Lactulose but better than making mistakes at work or

home. You need to ask your Dr.

Judy/pensacola,Fl.

--- srwatson4@... wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> Haven't been around in a while, but hope that

> everyone is doing OK.

>

> I have a question about the " brain fog " that

> everyone is always

> mentioning. It has been about 9-1/2 months since I

> started treatment

> for AIH, and after the initial adjustment to the

> meds, I never really

> had any problems thinking or remembering things.

> However, in the

> last few weeks, I have noticed (as have my kids),

> that I seem

> forgetful and repeat myself. They say that I seem

> to trail off at

> the end of my sentences. I have also noticed that

> when I type (I am

> a computer programmer), I make a lot of errors (not

> something I

> usually do). I'm also usually really good at

> keeping track of who

> needs to be where and at what time, but lately have

> been missing a

> few things.

>

> Is this what everyone means by brain fog, and if so,

> why do you think

> it would just now be showing up? My LFTs have been

> normal for a few

> months now, and I am on 10 mg Prednisone and 100 mg

> Imuran. I go

> back to my hepatologist tomorrow and don't know

> whether to mention it

> or not - does it just go with the territory?

>

> If it's not the dreaded brain fog, maybe I'm just

> getting old!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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Sounds just like my brain fog. When I type (I'm a programmer also) I

can't seem to get the sequence together. You know, while becomes

something like hilew or elihw :< I get some interesting compile errors

these days :) I now have to write everything down, or else I'll forget

it. I have a hard time remembering what I was working on the previous

day, this was never a problem with me before. So, , I would have

to say YES, you got the brain fog, welcome to the club.

-Clyde

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is brain fog caused by elevated ammonia and how do you find out???? i

sometimes seem to be in a daze and cannot think clearly, i has been

happening for the last couple of months to me and i don't understand it

terri

To Judy, , others writing of brain fog:

Do you know if high ammonia levels can occur even with normal lab tests?

I've had good test results for several months now, but I still don't feel I can trust my mind as I did a year ago, pre-diagnosis.

Harper (AIH 5/00)

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Terri,

There is a blood test that measures your ammonia level

and according to my doctors it does cause brain fog.

He told me one pt. of his owned his own business and

was about to lose his business because of brain fog.

He was moved up on the transplant list because of

this. I wonder about that,though. Check with your dr.

Judy/Pensacola,Fl.

--- tmurray4@... wrote:

> is brain fog caused by elevated ammonia and how do

> you find out???? i

> sometimes seem to be in a daze and cannot think

> clearly, i has been

> happening for the last couple of months to me and i

> don't understand it

> terri

>

>

> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822

>

> From: flatcat9@...

> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:01:41 EDT

> Reply-to:

> Subject: Re: [ ] Brain Fog?

>

> To Judy, , others writing of brain fog:

> Do you know if high ammonia levels can occur even

> with normal lab tests?

> I've had good test results for several months now,

> but I still don't feel I

> can trust my mind as I did a year ago,

> pre-diagnosis.

> Harper (AIH 5/00)

>

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W. Hope you asked your doc.......let us know. Joanne C.

>

> I have a question about the " brain fog " that everyone is always

> mentioning>>>>>>>>>Etc>>>> forgetful and repeat myself. They say that I

seem to trail off at

> the end of my sentences. I have also noticed that when I type (I am

> a computer programmer), I make a lot of errors (not something I

> usually do). I'm also usually really good at keeping track of who

> needs to be where and at what time, but lately have been missing a

> few things.

>

> Is this what everyone means by brain fog, and if so, why do you think

> it would just now be showing up? My LFTs have been normal for a few

> months now, and I am on 10 mg Prednisone and 100 mg Imuran. I go

> back to my hepatologist tomorrow and don't know whether to mention it

> or not - does it just go with the territory?

>

> If it's not the dreaded brain fog, maybe I'm just getting old!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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Yes Harper, you can have high ammonia levels with normal labs. It just happened to me a couple of months ago. All of my labs came back normal except for my ammonia level. That's why I am trying to get to a real AIH specialist. I am now on Lautlose(?) twice a day for it. Cherry Re: [ ] Brain Fog? To Judy, , others writing of brain fog: Do you know if high ammonia levels can occur even with normal lab tests? I've had good test results for several months now, but I still don't feel I can trust my mind as I did a year ago, pre-diagnosis. Harper (AIH 5/00)

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Yes, high ammonia levels is one of the culprits that can cause brain fog. I am new at this and as I understand there are other liver problems that can cause it. Mine was detected by a blood test. Make sure you find out. Lots of luck cherry Re: [ ] Brain Fog? is brain fog caused by elevated ammonia and how do you find out???? isometimes seem to be in a daze and cannot think clearly, i has beenhappening for the last couple of months to me and i don't understand it terri

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here's another question about brain fog. I am on Urso not predizone. I am experience major brain flips. I will stop right in the middle of a sentence and forget what the heck i was talking about. Is this the results of PBC or stroke I had last year age 42. Debbie in Louisville

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Re: [ ] Brain Fog?

here's another question about brain fog. I am on Urso not predizone. I am experience major brain flips. I will stop right in the middle of a sentence and forget what the heck i was talking about. Is this the results of PBC or stroke I had last year age 42. Debbie in Louisville

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Isn't it something when you get a whole new awareness? It's like the puzzle

pieces start falling into place. I contracted Hep C when I was 10, from a blood

transfusion. Later, in my early 20's, I developed anorexia. At that time there

was no diagnosis for anorexia, and I don't fit into the profiles of what they

call anorexia today. All I know is that I went down to 83# and was scared to

death that I would die. I was a young married mom with two little children.

Once I got my diagnosis, I started researching everything about Hep C. I don't

even know where I came across it, but I found a study that talked about Hep

C-related anorexia. It was such an " aha! " moment for me.

Please do tell the others about what is going on - you could be saving someone's

life.

Marilyn

Brain fog?

About 14 years ago I got a blood test from some health ins. company

that I was trying to get ins. thru. That was when I first new about

the bad blood readings. I did not feel that bad then, just hangovers

from excessive drinking. I also did not have a family Dr' at the

time. I gave the test results to my chiropractor and he said that I

needed to exercise diet and lose weight. It took a little while to

get started and I did I was rollerblade 15 miles on an old railroad

bed that had been paved over. I went to a Dr. to get the patch to

quit smoking, and he did some blood work and got the same results.

That is when I quit drinking, he said that the blood levels came

down enough after a month of sobriety. I never really drank any more

after that, except for a few times and it seem to make me ill. I had

gone from 285 lbs to 200 and was feeling good for a couple years.

Then things started going down hill. I did not have the energy that

I used to, I would get stuck in brain fog to the point that I could

not remember how to fix something that I was working on. I thought

that I some how got Lyme disease, or some other related problem.

This when they first put me on antidepressants. That turn into a

whole another nightmare. Only till I got out of fixing cars did it

get any better but this spring it got allot worse when I was going

to school. Tiring to write these letters can be a chore because I

forget were I am in the middle of a sentence. A guy I used to shoot

drugs with when I was in my teens, died several years ago from some

type of liver failure. I supposed that I should look into why and

tell some of the others to get tested for this. Enough for now,

Kent.

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I had a problem with the fog to.It has subsided somewhat but I have done the

Inter feron tx for 7 months.I stopped 3 months ago cuz I could'nt hang

mentally.I was doing well, my levels came down to normal and I felt not to bad

physically but the emotional was to much.So I'll try again I guess.So good luck

with the others.Hope you all have a good Holiday!!!~!!!!!

kentg48 <kentg48@...> wrote:About 14 years ago I got a blood test from

some health ins. company

that I was trying to get ins. thru. That was when I first new about

the bad blood readings. I did not feel that bad then, just hangovers

from excessive drinking. I also did not have a family Dr' at the

time. I gave the test results to my chiropractor and he said that I

needed to exercise diet and lose weight. It took a little while to

get started and I did I was rollerblade 15 miles on an old railroad

bed that had been paved over. I went to a Dr. to get the patch to

quit smoking, and he did some blood work and got the same results.

That is when I quit drinking, he said that the blood levels came

down enough after a month of sobriety. I never really drank any more

after that, except for a few times and it seem to make me ill. I had

gone from 285 lbs to 200 and was feeling good for a couple years.

Then things started going down hill. I did not have the energy that

I used to, I would get stuck in brain fog to the point that I could

not remember how to fix something that I was working on. I thought

that I some how got Lyme disease, or some other related problem.

This when they first put me on antidepressants. That turn into a

whole another nightmare. Only till I got out of fixing cars did it

get any better but this spring it got allot worse when I was going

to school. Tiring to write these letters can be a chore because I

forget were I am in the middle of a sentence. A guy I used to shoot

drugs with when I was in my teens, died several years ago from some

type of liver failure. I supposed that I should look into why and

tell some of the others to get tested for this. Enough for now,

Kent.

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, your doctor should have had you on antidepressants before you ever started

treatment. It takes 2 months for them to kick in and you should have been

stable on them before you ever did the TX. Try again to talk to your doctor

about doing this, if you have the chance, go for it! If your doc resists, fina

a new one, I did, and couldn't be happier about it. Please remember we are all

here for you.

Happy Turkey Day to you, too, buddy!

Marilyn

Re: Brain fog?

I had a problem with the fog to.It has subsided somewhat but I have done

the Inter feron tx for 7 months.I stopped 3 months ago cuz I could'nt hang

mentally.I was doing well, my levels came down to normal and I felt not to bad

physically but the emotional was to much.So I'll try again I guess.So good luck

with the others.Hope you all have a good Holiday!!!~!!!!!

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I have read many posts about experincing brain fogs. I really wonder

if I ever had them. I did notice that I have been terribly

distracted, but I always attributed it to depression because of my

illness.

I do remember feeling like I was spaced out, although that was not

frequent. Still it is a weird feeling, like the one you get after

drinking alcohol (light head?). If this is the brain fog, then I

definatelly have it. In my case it comes and goes, it is not

constant. Sometimes I kind of felt that i was there but not there??

I would say that the symptoms that bother me the most are the dryness

(eyes, vagina, skin, and hair, the mouth is o.k.), and the weird lack

of sensitivity all over my chest, neck, shoulders and face. All my

blood tests have been negative so far.

I pray that I get to feel better after tomorrow.

Zelly

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Usually yeast creates a white discharge, not dryness.

Kenda

> Zelly,

>

> I think you described the brain fog to the tee. I too had all the dryness

> and still do sometimes, but not as bad. I think the dryness is yeast? Maybe

> the other ladies can post comments? God Bless and Good Luck

>

> Donna

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My brain fog is total forgetfullness/spacey and memory

loss.

--- zellysmada <zellysmada@...> wrote:

> I have read many posts about experincing brain fogs.

> I really wonder

> if I ever had them. I did notice that I have been

> terribly

> distracted, but I always attributed it to depression

> because of my

> illness.

>

> I do remember feeling like I was spaced out,

> although that was not

> frequent. Still it is a weird feeling, like the one

> you get after

> drinking alcohol (light head?). If this is the

> brain fog, then I

> definatelly have it. In my case it comes and goes,

> it is not

> constant. Sometimes I kind of felt that i was there

> but not there??

>

> I would say that the symptoms that bother me the

> most are the dryness

> (eyes, vagina, skin, and hair, the mouth is o.k.),

> and the weird lack

> of sensitivity all over my chest, neck, shoulders

> and face. All my

> blood tests have been negative so far.

>

> I pray that I get to feel better after tomorrow.

>

> Zelly

>

>

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me too renee. are you explanted? have they decreased?

>

> > I have read many posts about experincing brain fogs.

> > I really wonder

> > if I ever had them. I did notice that I have been

> > terribly

> > distracted, but I always attributed it to depression

> > because of my

> > illness.

> >

> > I do remember feeling like I was spaced out,

> > although that was not

> > frequent. Still it is a weird feeling, like the one

> > you get after

> > drinking alcohol (light head?). If this is the

> > brain fog, then I

> > definatelly have it. In my case it comes and goes,

> > it is not

> > constant. Sometimes I kind of felt that i was there

> > but not there??

> >

> > I would say that the symptoms that bother me the

> > most are the dryness

> > (eyes, vagina, skin, and hair, the mouth is o.k.),

> > and the weird lack

> > of sensitivity all over my chest, neck, shoulders

> > and face. All my

> > blood tests have been negative so far.

> >

> > I pray that I get to feel better after tomorrow.

> >

> > Zelly

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Zelly,

My doctor, an Internist, who practices both traditional medicine

along with holistic nutritional supplements gave me a tip about dry

skin. She told me to us " olive oil " . I have been using it for over

a year. It sinks right in. She also told me to use pharmaceutical

grade Nowegian fish oil capsules. They too help the skin dryness a

LOT !!!

The brain fog? Mine was like I felt a little " zoned

out " ...couldn't focus for long periods of time. Didn't

feel " motivated " to focus. Kind of like my brain took a " muscle

relaxer " . LOL

The brain fog is very odd and hard to explain. It does sound like

you have experienced it.

Again, good luck tomorrow and let us hear from you.

--- In , " zellysmada " <zellysmada@...>

wrote:

>

> I have read many posts about experincing brain fogs. I really

wonder

> if I ever had them. I did notice that I have been terribly

> distracted, but I always attributed it to depression because of my

> illness.

>

> I do remember feeling like I was spaced out, although that was not

> frequent. Still it is a weird feeling, like the one you get after

> drinking alcohol (light head?). If this is the brain fog, then I

> definatelly have it. In my case it comes and goes, it is not

> constant. Sometimes I kind of felt that i was there but not

there??

>

> I would say that the symptoms that bother me the most are the

dryness

> (eyes, vagina, skin, and hair, the mouth is o.k.), and the weird

lack

> of sensitivity all over my chest, neck, shoulders and face. All

my

> blood tests have been negative so far.

>

> I pray that I get to feel better after tomorrow.

>

> Zelly

>

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sandy.. how long till your brain fog went away? as you may have read i

am having a very tough time with it.

> >

> > I have read many posts about experincing brain fogs. I really

> wonder

> > if I ever had them. I did notice that I have been terribly

> > distracted, but I always attributed it to depression because of my

> > illness.

> >

> > I do remember feeling like I was spaced out, although that was not

> > frequent. Still it is a weird feeling, like the one you get after

> > drinking alcohol (light head?). If this is the brain fog, then I

> > definatelly have it. In my case it comes and goes, it is not

> > constant. Sometimes I kind of felt that i was there but not

> there??

> >

> > I would say that the symptoms that bother me the most are the

> dryness

> > (eyes, vagina, skin, and hair, the mouth is o.k.), and the weird

> lack

> > of sensitivity all over my chest, neck, shoulders and face. All

> my

> > blood tests have been negative so far.

> >

> > I pray that I get to feel better after tomorrow.

> >

> > Zelly

> >

>

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