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Welcome back to the fold, Carol Jean.

This is a lesson well learned, remember how bad you feel and

that dropping LC caused you to regain all of your weight plus

one. When you have lost that 76 pounds that is your current

goal, you will remember the lesson of having lost 10 pounds

and gaining 11 back well enough to know that you don't want

to regain 76 plus. You will get to goal and you will be able

to keep it off. Once you have accepted that Atkins works

and the nay Sayers are just jealous you will be inspired to

show them just how wrong they are.

Jean

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I am 23 years old and last September I was diagnosed with Grave's

disease. I had been experiencing severe weight loss, mood swings,

bulging eyes, tremors, the list goes on. I received the radioactive

iodine treatment which sent me to the " hypo " end of the spectrum.

Now, with them still trying to adjust my meds (I am on Synthroid) I

have only one problem left that I can't solve. My weight. I have

gained 30 pounds since my diagnosis and no matter what I do, I can't

figure out how to get my weight down. I am hoping that someone has

some " secrets " that have worked for them that they can share with

me. I have always been a fit, petite, person and I would like to

continue to feel good about myself. Any advice would be greatly

apprieciated.

Thank you.

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Jillian,

Weight is a challenge for all of us... Most important is to actually get

the meds optimized.. that's hard to do on T4 only meds (Synthroid) for

many folks..... It isnt' a simple answer but really seems to revolve

around getting your body to work 'normally' and, of course, not be

binging... For me the trick was to get my meds right, I'm multi-dosing

on natural thyroid, and to change the way I eat. Balancing meals, no junk

food.. and eating smaller meals, more often. I now have 5 to 7

'mini-meals' a day.... now I'm FINALLY losing weight.....

How are your labs looking?

It's hard, after being hyper, to learn to eat 'normal' for all the years

that I was hyper I never had to watch what I ate.... then, after my RAI

pounds attached to me like I was magnetic.... it took years to figure out

how to deal with that and it's only been the last few months that it's

started coming off consistently....

Topper () *15 years post RAI, now self-medicating with natural

thyroid*

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:55:01 -0000 " Jillian "

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> I am 23 years old and last September I was diagnosed with Grave's

> disease. I had been experiencing severe weight loss, mood swings,

> bulging eyes, tremors, the list goes on. I received the radioactive

> iodine treatment which sent me to the " hypo " end of the spectrum.

> Now, with them still trying to adjust my meds (I am on Synthroid) I

> have only one problem left that I can't solve. My weight. I have

> gained 30 pounds since my diagnosis and no matter what I do, I can't

> figure out how to get my weight down. I am hoping that someone has

> some " secrets " that have worked for them that they can share with

> me. I have always been a fit, petite, person and I would like to

> continue to feel good about myself. Any advice would be greatly

> apprieciated.

> Thank you.

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You have to remember something very important when dealing with thyroid

and the metabolic challenges that it creates.... Often, if you don't eat

enough calories/food in a day you force your body into doing one, or

both, of two things... first, a shortage of calories really messes up

your natural conversion of T4 to T3 AND a shortage of food intake causes

the body to go into starvation mode, reducing the metabolic rate and

causing the body to conserve all calories taken in as fat...

For some of us, eating smaller meals several times a day makes a big

difference in energy levels and weight loss.... something to explore...

you might be one that benefits from this type of eating style....

Topper () *who now does 5 to 7 mini-meals a day and is finally

losing weight*

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:14:55 -0000 " jookeefe_1960 "

writes:

> I wish I knew, Kim. Before I got Hashimoto's, I worked out every day

> and was fit and had a nice figure. In the 3 years since I've had it,

> I have gained 50 pounds, and the less I eat, the more I gain. I am

> nauseated a great deal of the time and often don't eat much of

> anything but crackers and popsicles, and still gain weight. It is

> very frustrating. My doctor told me to avoid white bread, white

> rice, sugar, corn and potatoes. He said I should lose 10 lbs a

> month

> doing that, but instead I have gained another 6 pounds eating almost

> nothing. I am sure my thyroid is still not working properly. If

> you hit upon something that works, please share it!!

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It might swing back around to optimizing your meds... and some of vegies

aren't good for hypos... anyone have the list handy for the no nos? All I

ever remember is the cabbage family... my beloved brussels sprouts being

one of them....

If you had labs.... we'd have an idea how you are in that area....

Topper ()

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:54:45 -0000 " Jillian "

writes:

> Well, my doctor told me if I just ate healthy, I shouldn't have a

> problem. I eat very lightly and what I do eat are healthy things

> such as fruits, veggies, and well balanced small portions meals. I

> even eliminated my beloved JUNK FOOD! I no longer even drink drinks

> with a lot of sugar or fat. Surely, there has to be some sort of

> secret!

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I don't have my current labs right now... and frankly I'm still

trying to understand those as well. I am still currently going to

the dr every 7 weeks, but they seem to think that my levels are

still a little low and on Feb 10th they increased my dosage of

synthroid. I guess I'm just a little impatient on the weight loss

since everything else is starting to fall into place much faster.

thanks for all the advice!

> It might swing back around to optimizing your meds... and some of

vegies

> aren't good for hypos... anyone have the list handy for the no

nos? All I

> ever remember is the cabbage family... my beloved brussels sprouts

being

> one of them....

>

> If you had labs.... we'd have an idea how you are in that area....

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:54:45 -0000 " Jillian " <jillian413@y...>

> writes:

> > Well, my doctor told me if I just ate healthy, I shouldn't have

a

> > problem. I eat very lightly and what I do eat are healthy things

> > such as fruits, veggies, and well balanced small portions meals.

I

> > even eliminated my beloved JUNK FOOD! I no longer even drink

drinks

> > with a lot of sugar or fat. Surely, there has to be some sort of

> > secret!

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Jillian,

If they're still working on you, getting your levels right... you may

just have to be patient... The thyroid very much affects the metabolic

rate, and when that is slow mo... well, it gets to be VERY easy to gain

weight.

Most of us have been there.. So stand your ground. If you are not pigging

out and doing junk, if you are eating healthy foods in appropriate

portions... don't let anybody start giving you the 'fat and lazy'

speech... if it's still a matter of balancing meds and retraining your

body to no longer being hyper, there is no fault... so don't let folks

start labeling you.....

IMHO

Topper ()

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 01:15:01 -0000 " Jillian "

writes:

> I don't have my current labs right now... and frankly I'm still

> trying to understand those as well. I am still currently going to

> the dr every 7 weeks, but they seem to think that my levels are

> still a little low and on Feb 10th they increased my dosage of

> synthroid. I guess I'm just a little impatient on the weight loss

> since everything else is starting to fall into place much faster.

> thanks for all the advice!

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Hi there! Here a list of " bad " vegies:

" Overconsumption of uncooked " goitrogenic " foods, such as brussels

sprouts, broccoli, rutabaga, turnips, kohlrabi, radishes,

cauliflower, African cassava, millet, babassu, cabbage and kale "

> It might swing back around to optimizing your meds... and some of

vegies

> aren't good for hypos... anyone have the list handy for the no nos?

All I

> ever remember is the cabbage family... my beloved brussels sprouts

being

> one of them....

>

> If you had labs.... we'd have an idea how you are in that area....

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:54:45 -0000 " Jillian " <jillian413@y...>

> writes:

> > Well, my doctor told me if I just ate healthy, I shouldn't have a

> > problem. I eat very lightly and what I do eat are healthy things

> > such as fruits, veggies, and well balanced small portions meals.

I

> > even eliminated my beloved JUNK FOOD! I no longer even drink

drinks

> > with a lot of sugar or fat. Surely, there has to be some sort of

> > secret!

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Oh... don't forget... ALL forms of soy....

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:36:19 -0000 " knoxjill "

writes:

> Hi there! Here a list of " bad " vegies:

>

> " Overconsumption of uncooked " goitrogenic " foods, such as brussels

> sprouts, broccoli, rutabaga, turnips, kohlrabi, radishes,

> cauliflower, African cassava, millet, babassu, cabbage and kale "

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Jo, I can't remember whether you told me that you had had cortisol tests run

(adrenals) or if you are anemic (iron or B12 or folic acid?). I'm wondering

where the nausea is coming from. I know that us thyroid people are really

supposed to be eating smaller meals, with plenty of protein.

Tx

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> I wish I knew, Kim. Before I got Hashimoto's, I worked out every day

> and was fit and had a nice figure. In the 3 years since I've had it,

> I have gained 50 pounds, and the less I eat, the more I gain. I am

> nauseated a great deal of the time and often don't eat much of

> anything but crackers and popsicles, and still gain weight. It is

> very frustrating. My doctor told me to avoid white bread, white

> rice, sugar, corn and potatoes. He said I should lose 10 lbs a month

> doing that, but instead I have gained another 6 pounds eating almost

> nothing. I am sure my thyroid is still not working properly. If you

> hit upon something that works, please share it!!

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Some of the goitrogens include cabbage (as you said), turnips, soy, someone

said peaches, but I had never heard about that one and love those things.

Cauliflower (love that stuff too!). I know there a bunch of others but

can't think of them offhand.

Tx

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> It might swing back around to optimizing your meds... and some of vegies

> aren't good for hypos... anyone have the list handy for the no nos? All I

> ever remember is the cabbage family... my beloved brussels sprouts being

> one of them....

>

> If you had labs.... we'd have an idea how you are in that area....

>

> Topper ()

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strawberries

Re: Re: help> It might swing back around to optimizing your meds... and some of vegies> aren't good for hypos... anyone have the list handy for the no nos? All I> ever remember is the cabbage family... my beloved brussels sprouts being> one of them....>> If you had labs.... we'd have an idea how you are in that area....>> Topper ()

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As far as I know, I have never had any adrenal tests, though I'm not

sure what those would be. My red blood cell count is always a

little low, though not much, when I have my monthly blood tests for

the methotrexate, but my hematocrit and hemoglobin are always okay.

I take folic acid each day because of the methotrexate as well. The

only other lab that is high usually is my C-Reactive Protein, which

shows inflammation, and since I have RA and Hashi's I don't suppose

that's really unexpected.

I really think the nausea is related to the Hashi's somehow -- maybe

just because I get dizzy and that nauseates me?? Or maybe because

of the constipation? Or maybe just I have so many antibodies raging

against me it makes me feel that way. My antibody tests were really

high when I had them done about 3 years ago. I was doing better for

awhile, and then all of a sudden all of the symptoms came back --

dizziness, nausea, constipation, puffy eyes, extreme fatigue, memory

problems, muscle tenderness, joint pain, and a feeling like I have a

golf ball in my throat. For the past week or so I have also had a

stiff and sore neck. Is that a common symptom of low thyroid? I

don't remember having that before.

I had a gallbladder ultrasound earlier this week, but I will be very

surprised if it shows anything. I have an order to get a TSH, T3

and T4 drawn tonight, and I am really hoping they come back out of

whack; however, I talked to my doctor about adding Cytomel or

switching to Armour, and he pretty much blew me off. I currently

take 150 mcg of Synthroid a day.

Compounding my weight problem is the fact that the rheumatologist

will not let me do any form of exercise except to ride a bike

because of the severity of my arthritis, and when I ride a bike

after a few days, my knee starts to pop out of place and becomes

very painful and I have to stop.

Just having someplace to talk where everyone else is going through

the same thing is very helpful. Thanks.

Jo

> Jo, I can't remember whether you told me that you had had cortisol

tests run

> (adrenals) or if you are anemic (iron or B12 or folic acid?). I'm

wondering

> where the nausea is coming from. I know that us thyroid people

are really

> supposed to be eating smaller meals, with plenty of protein.

>

>

> Tx

>

> Re: help

>

>

> > I wish I knew, Kim. Before I got Hashimoto's, I worked out

every day

> > and was fit and had a nice figure. In the 3 years since I've

had it,

> > I have gained 50 pounds, and the less I eat, the more I gain. I

am

> > nauseated a great deal of the time and often don't eat much of

> > anything but crackers and popsicles, and still gain weight. It

is

> > very frustrating. My doctor told me to avoid white bread, white

> > rice, sugar, corn and potatoes. He said I should lose 10 lbs a

month

> > doing that, but instead I have gained another 6 pounds eating

almost

> > nothing. I am sure my thyroid is still not working properly.

If you

> > hit upon something that works, please share it!!

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You're not allowed to say strawberries, they are my most favorite fruit... and I WILL eat them if I'm lucky enough to find them at a good price and have the money to indulge!

*wink*

hehehehehhehe

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 06:33:41 -0800 "JAMY" writes:

strawberries

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I am about to have a bowl

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You're not allowed to say strawberries, they are my most favorite fruit... and I WILL eat them if I'm lucky enough to find them at a good price and have the money to indulge!

*wink*

hehehehehhehe

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 06:33:41 -0800 "JAMY" writes:

strawberries

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This one I missed somehow. I love strawberries. Don't think I'm going to give them up, but I don't eat them but around once a month or so anyway.

Tx

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Some of the goitrogens include cabbage (as you said), turnips, soy, someonesaid peaches, but I had never heard about that one and love those things.Cauliflower (love that stuff too!). I know there a bunch of others butcan't think of them offhand.Tx

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I love living in California...........hmm maybe we should overnight some to you Topper. *grin* We have a long strawberry season here.

in El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles ;-)

-----Original Message-----From: JAMY Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:44 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Re: help

I am about to have a bowl

Re: Re: help

You're not allowed to say strawberries, they are my most favorite fruit... and I WILL eat them if I'm lucky enough to find them at a good price and have the money to indulge!

*wink*

hehehehehhehe

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We have a 'u pick' strawberry farm only a couple of miles from here... I've not been able to go for years cause, well, hypo, no energy, bad knees... you know the drill.... I'm toying with the idea of seeing if I can go this year... maybe I won't pick enough to get a tummy ache, but it sure would be nice....

sigh....

Before I lost my house I had a solar green house that I built.... Among all the things I had in it were dozens of alpine strawberry plants... I could pick strawberries 10 months out of the year.... November and December, the two cloudiest months of the year cut the flower production.... but with the bright days of January the flowers started again and picking started in February..... Oh... I miss that....

But... all that said... if a case of berries were to show up at my door... I wouldn't turn them away! hehehehehehehehehehe

Topper () *who's back to fantasizing about a fresh strawberry meringue pie*

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:40:57 -0800 "" writes:

I love living in California...........hmm maybe we should overnight some to you Topper. *grin* We have a long strawberry season here.

in El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles ;-)

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