Re: 911:: Officers in Comm Center

[Guest guest]

Don't these " problem " officers have supervisors? In my experience, one of the

jobs of a supervisor is to supervise one's subordinates. If THEY were doing

their job you shouldn't need locks or rules or passwords or hall-monitors to

keep the officers from becoming a nuisance.

For the public, sure ya need locks and rules, but for the coppers? Something

WRONG with that picture.

JMAO

Harry

911:: Officers in Comm Center

> I'm looking for some numbers of agencies that DO NOT allow officers in the

> comm center. We are going to " lock down " ours in the very near future to try

> and alleviate some problems with noise and just general " hanging out " . Those

> of you that are secure, are there any problems with officers getting

> teletypes, recorded phone calls, etc. Also if you have a policy specific to

> securing the comm center please email me off list at

> cwalters@...

> Thanks

> Clyde Walters

> Pinellas Park Police

>

[Guest guest]

We tried that in the past several times. Never lasted long. In our last

remodel, we had a 1/2 door into dispatch/records. When officers were locked

out, they'd stand at the door and holler for their printouts. then the whole

door was closed making the officers walk all the way around dispatch to the

public counter to get their printouts. Made for a lot of hard feelings from

dispatch side and from patrol side because back then we were single

dispatcher 24/7 and had no close bathroom and officers baulked at giving

breaks.

Sometimes in our new center I wish we had that policy - Records has it,

officers are not allowed into records unless specifically given permission by

the records employees but they come and go out of dispatch as they please and

with our set up now, they come in yacking and asking questions and usually

interrupt radio or phone conversations.

Good luck, post the results!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/9/03 11:57:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cwalt8888@... writes:

> I'm looking for some numbers of agencies that DO NOT allow officers in the

> comm center.

Hmm... how to answer this question.

Officers are not supposed to be coming into the center unless they have

business there such as picking up copies, keys (we have the keys to evidence,

freezer, etc in the office) etc. But, the rule works for a little while,

then they come back. Its not everyone that is the problem, but as you

mentioned, its the hanger outs that do it. They pull up a chair and sit down

and make themselves comfy. Well,if they have that time, why dont they pickup

a headset! That would surely scare them off..

Toni Wyman, ((temporarily not a CTO) and Tactical Dispatcher)

Gwinnett County Police, GA (just N of HotLanta)

Lawrenceville, GA

(These are only my opinions, not my agency's, after all they are the

government and they have opinions of their own)

For liability reasons my posts and opinions are to be reprinted with my

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[Guest guest]

>One would think that if the agency is employing adults, locking officers out

wouldn't be necessary.

Yes... One would think that, but sadly, it's not necessarily so.

As far as supervisors, sometimes they are the worst offenders.

We had a strict rule - if you did not have business in the radio room

stay out ! - Door locked at all times !!

In all my years, this rule was never enforced, and if you tried to

enforce it, you were the bad guy.

Something about a radio room that draws everyone.

I personally think that officers (other than Command in emergency

situations) have no business in the radio room.

Weintraut

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[Guest guest]

I think you'd find that is a policy decision based on accreditation,

etc. We have no such guidelines in the state of VT, but those CALEA

certified depts. tend to have 'secured' comm centers for the integrity

of records & information (NCIC, etc.)

my four and a half cents,

diane g.

uvm pd

>

> Ummmm, I thought it was legally required for 911 centers to have at least 2

> locked doors before entry into the center. Most officers know the codes to

get

> in, but everyoe else needs to be buzzed in by us. Also officers don't hang

> out, if they did we'd tell them to leave. I'm also confused as to why this is

> even happening and why your comm center isn't locked down already...

>

[Guest guest]

>Well,if they have that time, why dont they pickup

a headset! That would surely scare them off..

I've used that a time or two.

" Pick up that phone "

" Look up that number for me "

" Call that wrecker "

In about two seconds... They're out the door....

Weintraut

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[Guest guest]

Great idea, Toni! Put up a sign, like " After 2 minutes here, you're officially

a dispatcher, grab a headset and answer the phone. "

I guess it's not an entirely new phenomenon, though... look at the next-to-last

pic (from 1932) and its caption on

http://members.cox.net/marnells/elysian.htm

harry

Re: 911:: Officers in Comm Center

.. Well,if they have that time, why dont they pickup

> a headset! That would surely scare them off..

>

>

> Toni Wyman, ((temporarily not a CTO) and Tactical Dispatcher)

[Guest guest]

Hmmm - some of the officers I work with would think that made them

qualified to dispatch too. Oh wait, they do that from their

MDT's... (The rest of the sentence was deleted by the author who

decided that it wasn't very nice.)

> >Well,if they have that time, why dont they pickup

> a headset! That would surely scare them off..

>

> I've used that a time or two.

>

> " Pick up that phone "

>

> " Look up that number for me "

>

> " Call that wrecker "

>

> In about two seconds... They're out the door....

>

> Weintraut

>

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