Re: 911:: LAPD may quit responding to BURGLAR alarms

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Well, good for them! I say make these alarm companies hire their own security

to go check on them! Especially the many alarm companies that cant even get a

rep to show up more than 99.9% of the time!

These of course are my personal views and not those of my department ... we

have 15 min to dispatch alarm calls.

Roxann

Arlington, TX

Police Dispatch

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In a message dated 12/14/02 7:04:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, marnell@...

writes:

> Los Angeles police officers would ignore most private residential and

> business

> burglar alarms under a plan to be considered Tuesday --

Well thats smart!!!

Lets put it in all the papers, news programs, etc that pd is no longer

responding to alarms. Why dont we just take out an add and address it

" Attention: all potential criminals! We dont care! "

(I couldnt resist)

Toni Wyman, ((temporarily not a CTO) and Tactical Dispatcher)

Gwinnett County Police, GA (just N of HotLanta)

Lawrenceville, GA

(These are only my opinions, not my agency's, after all they are the

government and they have opinions of their own)

For liability reasons my posts and opinions are to be reprinted with my

permission only.

Email to: E911GAL136@...

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This is NOT a new subject...it's been bantered around for at least the last 8

years....in 1994, there was a False Alarm Task Force organized to look at

this idea.....nothing has changed in that time.....alarms are still being

handled....however, the dispatch weight has changed from 15 minutes to 60

minutes (in hopes of private response companies calling back to say that PD

is no longer needed, so their clients are not charged by the LAPD). It's up

to the responding officers to leave a Form 2.90 (notice of an alarm response)

and to the LA Police Commission to ensure they collect the fees for the false

alarms (provided the first assigned officers (primary unit)) PROPERLY USE

THEIR MDT to dispo the call as FFAL, and for the IT crew to understandably

organize the info.

Why are people in other parts of the country (in this newsgroup) getting SO

upset?

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In a message dated 12/16/02 8:45:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

COURNOYERB@... writes:

> Doesn't really matter that the response is stopped, it's the advertising of

> same that bothers me.

>

That was sorta the point in the email I sent.. I just didnt say it as

directly.

Toni Wyman, ((temporarily not a CTO) and Tactical Dispatcher)

Gwinnett County Police, GA (just N of HotLanta)

Lawrenceville, GA

(These are only my opinions, not my agency's, after all they are the

government and they have opinions of their own)

For liability reasons my posts and opinions are to be reprinted with my

permission only.

Email to: E911GAL136@...

[Guest guest]

<<Why are people in other parts of the country (in this newsgroup) getting SO

upset?>>

It's kinda like putting the cheese in the middle of the dining room floor on a

silver platter.....putting the cat (that's got 76 little dead mouse decals

stamped on the side of his cat house) and a brick in a gunny sack tied shut and

tossing it in the river.......

Doesn't really matter that the response is stopped, it's the advertising of same

that bothers me.

Bob

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dan911radio@... wrote:

> This is NOT a new subject...it's been bantered around for at least the last 8

>

>

> Why are people in other parts of the country (in this newsgroup) getting SO

> upset?

>

WHY? Because some of us grew up or lived in what used to be a great city.

Because it is painful to watch such a city, theoretically still in the US, slide

into the abyss of the dump that it is becoming. This is just one more step in

the transition. On a personal note, I recall laughing at TV shows, where the New

York apartment dwellers, turned 5 deadbolts before opening their doors. Now

foresee that same paranoia coming to my beloved California. To continue;

because

many of us are still under the illusion that crime does not pay and that there

is

an attempt at justice for victims, regardless of where in the US that activity

occurs. I know, it's naive, but it is still a goal I would like to see striven

for; and when we abandon those goals, it is the same as giving up. Because I

would like to remain under the illusion, that cops are responding to criminals,

not two dipshits, who where too stupid to get married and have children in the

first place, who are now fighting for the umpteenth time, or to some other

politically correct or social ill, that society has pushed upon the PD.

It is not just LA, but whole sections of the country with the same problems, and

there are areas with as much crime per square mile, but it just assigns LA the

position of leader of the pack. As a rookie cop I spent a week at the riots in

South Central and 30 years later as I retired, I watched the riots not far from

the same locations. There are many who pass through LA on the freeways, afraid

to get off on an offramp they are unfamiliar with. I used to drive a solo

patrol

unit into what was then refereed to as the projects, take reports, talk to

people, arrest people. Now some of those areas are not entered without several

multi-officer units.

As a person who has written both police and fire department budgets, I am fully

aware of the cost of protection. But the system is getting out of whack and

this

is just another symptom. We don't respond to 500 juvenile shoplifters, some,

who

could possibly be swayed, but we spend a million on prosecuting an actress, who

gets probation.

Sorry, I am rambling before I've had any coffee, and I guess I should do some

work, but you set me off, with your zealous proprietorship of LA and it's

policies, which through the magic of tv, eventually become the norm.

I could write on the social ills for hours and my priorities for police and fire

service, but it would just bore you, so I shall continue to pursue my coffee.

Rich

1010WC

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>Burglar alarms serve no other purpose than to waste taxpayer dollars and

>create revenue for the alarm company...period.<

I didn't see my first response, so I'll answer again...

I pretty well agree with the above.

I understand the concern on " advertising " that they are going

to quit responding to alarms.

However, the response time to alarms in most large cities is

so long now, it's a waste to go...

The " advertising " might cause a youngster to try a burglary, but

unless he/she's leaning that way already, I doubt it.

Burglar alarms are of the least concern to true burglars..

They already know the priority and response times.

If over 90% (and I'd guess 99.9) are false, and they are using

up to, or over, 15% of their patrol time going to these false

alarms, it seems a pretty good decision to drop them...

Weintraut

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[Guest guest]

Speaking of alarms, during the nasty storm we had over the Weekend we were

getting at least2-3 audible alarms every hour -- combination of wind and rain

were setting them off like crazy.