Re: Re: Cortef

[Guest guest]

Both of us are seeing a GP for hypothyroidism. We are on armour 2.5 grains.

We did do a saliva test. From my reading I was given to believe that it was the most accurate test. We both tested very low for 4 different readings. Hence, the cortef.

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I have 's disease (treated with cortef) and I felt compeled to try to help. Cortef (a brand name of hydrocortisone) is usuallyprescribed at 20 to 30 mg for 's patients (used by 80% of 's). I've used it but use prednisolone now (4 times stronger than cortef)----------------------------------Here are the boards I use for 's. If I can't help you, you can try these boards.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/addisonsdisease/messages/?viscount=100http://www.healthboards.com/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=8http://www.teleplexus.com/----------------------------------Can you tell us what kind of doctors you two are seeing, thediagnosis for both of you and what the test results were for both ofyou. I find it odd that you both are starting it at the same time.Could you fill us in a little more.For your husband, I am surprised that 10 mg is making him gainweight, but it is a side effect.The steroid can make your appetiteI can tell you when I see your tests. Oh and if that saliva test was through the mail, then I can tell you I put no stock in those.Here's what to expect if you really don't need the medicine.It could give you symptoms of cushings disease (adrenals produce tomuch cortisol). Symptoms of to much cortef/hydrocortisone are obesity(especially around the stomach); a round face; increased hair growth(especially around the face); acne; bruising; increased bloodpressure; swollen hands, feet, or ankles (fluid retention); and soreor weak muscles. The worst it can do is cause osteoporosis anddiabetes.See this site for more info.http://www.peacehealth.org/kbase/multum/d00254a1.htmNo one can really answer you until you tell us the details.I'll be looking for your reply.Chris> To All:> > My husband and I started Cortef two weeks ago tomorrow. We are taking only 10 mg per day in 5 mg doses. I seem to be doing fine on it although at this early stage I am not seeing any miracles.> > My husband on the other hand has put on 7 lbs., is bloated, uncomfortable. Could it be possible that he does not need it? He did a 24 hour saliva cortisol test that showed he was low. I realize that it is a steroid and they certainly can put weight on one. Do you think he should continue even with the uncomfortable side effects? We don't really know what to expect.> > Thanks,> > Deborah

[Guest guest]

What about testosterone, DHEA, estrogens, and progesterone?

Tx

Re: Re: Cortef

Both of us are seeing a GP for hypothyroidism. We are on armour 2.5 grains.

We did do a saliva test. From my reading I was given to believe that it was the most accurate test. We both tested very low for 4 different readings. Hence, the cortef.

[Guest guest]

I'm backing 100% on this one. It is very strange that both would have the

exact same diagnosis, at the same time. That's why I was asking about the

other adrenal hormones.

Tx

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> I have never heard of a GP treating anyone for either problem. A GP

> is supposed to send you to another doctor with things like that. I

> think he maybe to ambitious. I find it very interesting that you

> both have the same exact problems and need the same exact treatment.

> I highly recommend you ask for all your tests and take them with you

> to another doctor, (environmental, holistic, osteopath, or

> endocinologist) to see what they think. Either you both being the

> same is incredible coincidence or the doctor you two see is off his

> rocker.

>

> Lets put it this way, if he is wrong he could royally screw both of

> you up!!! Remember doctors can be wrong and they can be insane.

> Don't put your trust in him until you get a second opinion. I'm very

> worried about both of you.

>

> Post the test results of the cortisol and thyroid on here so we can

> help you figure it out.

>

> Chris

[Guest guest]

So did the DR put you on that dose or are you medicating for adrenal fatigue yourselves?

Re: Re: Cortef

Both of us are seeing a GP for hypothyroidism. We are on armour 2.5 grains.

We did do a saliva test. From my reading I was given to believe that it was the most accurate test. We both tested very low for 4 different readings. Hence, the cortef.

[Guest guest]

Our GP put us on that dose.

Re: Re: Cortef

Both of us are seeing a GP for hypothyroidism. We are on armour 2.5 grains.

We did do a saliva test. From my reading I was given to believe that it was the most accurate test. We both tested very low for 4 different readings. Hence, the cortef.

[Guest guest]

Maybe I am being overly sensitive but reactions like this is why I don't post much. I have posted before all of our test results and gotten very little response. As far as I can tell from reading posts most of you guys self-medicate or go to GP's. I posted my saliva results and the few answers I got most said they had no experience with saliva tests. My husband is on testosterone replacement.

As far as both of us having the same diagnosis I can't see why that is so incredible. I believe that several women on this site and the natural site have spouses that are hypo too. My husband's TSH was out of limits and so he is being treated. I have and so does he almost all the symptoms of hypo. So I guess we are just lucky to both have it!!

We are trying to learn about hypo from being on these two support groups and I am educating my GP from what I learn here. I feel very lucky that she is willing to listen to us and treat on symptoms and read all the articles that I bring in. We have been spared the nightmares of going through numerous doctors as most of the women here have done. She is at least willing to learn along with us; I don't think I can ask for more.

Deborah

Re: Re: Cortef

Both of us are seeing a GP for hypothyroidism. We are on armour 2.5 grains.

We did do a saliva test. From my reading I was given to believe that it was the most accurate test. We both tested very low for 4 different readings. Hence, the cortef.

[Guest guest]

Deborah...

Please try to remember that many, many of us have been badly abused by docs and are very analytical (is that the word that I want?). It's unusual for two folks to have the same diagnosis... so the parts of us that are skeptical call attention to that.....

We're not trying to be mean or judgmental to you... just over protective of one of our family...... So the eyebrows are raised and the question comes out - are you sure that you both have the same symptoms? If you do... great..... and if the doc is on top of things and working with both of you - FANTASTIC!

..... forgive those of us that are gun shy? Please?

shy smile

Topper ()

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:45:04 -0500 " son" writes:

Maybe I am being overly sensitive but reactions like this is why I don't post much. I have posted before all of our test results and gotten very little response. As far as I can tell from reading posts most of you guys self-medicate or go to GP's. I posted my saliva results and the few answers I got most said they had no experience with saliva tests. My husband is on testosterone replacement.

As far as both of us having the same diagnosis I can't see why that is so incredible. I believe that several women on this site and the natural site have spouses that are hypo too. My husband's TSH was out of limits and so he is being treated. I have and so does he almost all the symptoms of hypo. So I guess we are just lucky to both have it!!

We are trying to learn about hypo from being on these two support groups and I am educating my GP from what I learn here. I feel very lucky that she is willing to listen to us and treat on symptoms and read all the articles that I bring in. We have been spared the nightmares of going through numerous doctors as most of the women here have done. She is at least willing to learn along with us; I don't think I can ask for more.

Deborah

[Guest guest]

Topper,

Thanks for the words, you are always a sane voice in the insane world of hypos.

I thought that I had posted previously that both of us had hypo symptoms and that our cortisol test came back low. That is why we are on Armour and Cortef. My husbands TSH was actually out of range but mine was not. That is why we have gone on symptoms more for me than him but he has them too.

We both came from abusive homes which Dr. Derry believes makes ones metabolic system crazy. Another reason for our self diagnosis.

What I have gotten from the posts is that it is symptoms, symptoms, symptoms that are reliable not tests. So that is what we have based things on. I was lucky enough to find a GP open minded enough to listen to our symptoms, read articles posted, and believe in us enough to treat us. We started out conservatively on the Cortef, 10mg instead of 20mg, because the doctor and I are both not fans of steriods and we wanted to be cautious.

My husband has been gaining weight, which we know is a symptom of steriod use, but it really bothers him as he can not lose weight no matter what. He has also been irritable this last week. So we just wondered if it could be the Cortef. He is also on testosterone replacement due to low levels. It could be that. He has only been on the Cortef for 2 weeks and is on his second month of testosterone. It could just be hypo symptoms too and I am just not into this long enough to recognize them all yet.

The endocrine system is so very complex and hormones so mysterious as to all there functions, complications, interactions, etc. that I just wanted someones opinion, not a lecture on why we both couldn't be hypo.

It maybe strange that both of us are hypo but I do believe that we are not the only ones on this group or the natural group. Since there is such a great number of hypos out there I wouldn't believe it to be that fantastic anyway.

Deborah

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Deborah...

Please try to remember that many, many of us have been badly abused by docs and are very analytical (is that the word that I want?). It's unusual for two folks to have the same diagnosis... so the parts of us that are skeptical call attention to that.....

We're not trying to be mean or judgmental to you... just over protective of one of our family...... So the eyebrows are raised and the question comes out - are you sure that you both have the same symptoms? If you do... great..... and if the doc is on top of things and working with both of you - FANTASTIC!

..... forgive those of us that are gun shy? Please?

shy smile

Topper ()

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:45:04 -0500 " son" writes:

Maybe I am being overly sensitive but reactions like this is why I don't post much. I have posted before all of our test results and gotten very little response. As far as I can tell from reading posts most of you guys self-medicate or go to GP's. I posted my saliva results and the few answers I got most said they had no experience with saliva tests. My husband is on testosterone replacement.

As far as both of us having the same diagnosis I can't see why that is so incredible. I believe that several women on this site and the natural site have spouses that are hypo too. My husband's TSH was out of limits and so he is being treated. I have and so does he almost all the symptoms of hypo. So I guess we are just lucky to both have it!!

We are trying to learn about hypo from being on these two support groups and I am educating my GP from what I learn here. I feel very lucky that she is willing to listen to us and treat on symptoms and read all the articles that I bring in. We have been spared the nightmares of going through numerous doctors as most of the women here have done. She is at least willing to learn along with us; I don't think I can ask for more.

Deborah

[Guest guest]

Chris

If your husband's TSH is too high, I would like to take a look at what his

Free T3 and Free T4 are. I'd be willing to bet that his weight gain may be

more from being hypothyroid still. I think I was asking about what BOTH of

your levels of testosterone, and yours also of progesterone. Even some

men's levels of estrogens can be elevated. It makes more of a fuller

picture of everything.

Tx

Re: Cortef

> Maybe if you hear what I told you from another person, you might come

> around. Post your tests on this board

>

> http://www.healthboards.com/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=122

>

> In the thread title put this " Meep could you please comment "

>

> Meep is an expert, I have not run across anyone that is more

> knowledgable at interpreting tests too. Plus there are other very

> knowedgable people there you might hear from too. This board could

> really use someone like him.

>

> I highly suggest you have him look at both your tests.

>

> Chris

[Guest guest]

Well, my brain is definitely not working today----I think I just posted the answer to Chris's instead of where it should have been, to you! Anyway, as I was telling (as she looks at me with much puzzlement as to why I posted it to her!), the progesterone (for you), testosterone for both of you, and DHEAs give the bigger picture, but I'm of course, not remembering what they are at this point. Anyway, a lot of us who have been abused by doctors are REALLY into the "Mother Hen" Syndrome. We don't want to see what happened to us happen to anyone else, so we go into very forceful reactions sometimes. It's like "Please---don't go there! I don't want to see you get hurt!" But it was the experience, I guess, that got all of us on these boards. I have not had these tests, due to lack of funds, etc...in that category, else I would have one of the more wonderful thyroid docs, I suppose. I would run the gammot of tests, if I could. I AM self-treating, and I do resent having to do it, just to stay alive, or more alive than I was WITH a doctor. I'm not poo-pooing a GOOD doctor. BTW, it does look like your husband's symptoms are from hypothyroid because of the TSH and weight gain, but I'd bank more on it if I saw a Free T3 and Free T4. If you've already posted those, please forgive me because I don' usually write this stuff down. Maybe I NEED to!

Tx

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What about testosterone, DHEA, estrogens, and progesterone?

Tx

[Guest guest]

,

Don't worry about your brain not working; mine seldom does and that may be the problem here.

My results: TSH 0.05 .71-1.85

Free T4 1.34 50-149

Free T3 553 230-420

Testosterone done a year ago was 50, range 14-76

no progesterone test so far

DHEA saliva test 168, range 14-277

serum cortisol a year ago was 10, range 7-25

saliva cortisol 7am-9am: .94, range .27-2.06; 11am-1pm: .20, range .03-.77; 3pm-5pm: .13, range .03-.56; 10pm-12am: .04, range .03-.50.

The Saliva DHEA/cortisol test was done in Jan. by Great Smokies Diagnostic Labs. I am on 2.5 grains Armour and 10mg Cortef. I have been on the Armour since Nov. and the Cortef 2 weeks. Not feeling much better from either.

My husband test results:

TSH: prior to treatment 3.6 after treatment 1.29

Free T4 1.29, range 50-149

Free T3 433, range 230-420

Testosterone was low low normal but we have not gotten a copy of that test.

DHEA 152, range 14-277

Cortisol 7am-9am: 1.13; 11am-1pm: .27; 3pm-5pm: .13; 10pm-12am: .03. Same range as mine. He has been on Armour since Dec. and Cortef for 2 weeks.

If you can make something of this let me know.

Deborah

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What about testosterone, DHEA, estrogens, and progesterone?

Tx

[Guest guest]

Hey Deborah, what lab did you get the tsh's done at? I never ranges like that.

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,

Don't worry about your brain not working; mine seldom does and that may be the problem here.

My results: TSH 0.05 .71-1.85

Free T4 1.34 50-149

Free T3 553 230-420

Testosterone done a year ago was 50, range 14-76

no progesterone test so far

DHEA saliva test 168, range 14-277

serum cortisol a year ago was 10, range 7-25

saliva cortisol 7am-9am: .94, range .27-2.06; 11am-1pm: .20, range .03-.77; 3pm-5pm: .13, range .03-.56; 10pm-12am: .04, range .03-.50.

The Saliva DHEA/cortisol test was done in Jan. by Great Smokies Diagnostic Labs. I am on 2.5 grains Armour and 10mg Cortef. I have been on the Armour since Nov. and the Cortef 2 weeks. Not feeling much better from either.

My husband test results:

TSH: prior to treatment 3.6 after treatment 1.29

Free T4 1.29, range 50-149

Free T3 433, range 230-420

Testosterone was low low normal but we have not gotten a copy of that test.

DHEA 152, range 14-277

Cortisol 7am-9am: 1.13; 11am-1pm: .27; 3pm-5pm: .13; 10pm-12am: .03. Same range as mine. He has been on Armour since Dec. and Cortef for 2 weeks.

If you can make something of this let me know.

Deborah

[Guest guest]

Jamy,

See I told you my brain was not working. It's .50-5.00.

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,

Don't worry about your brain not working; mine seldom does and that may be the problem here.

My results: TSH 0.05 .71-1.85

Free T4 1.34 50-149

Free T3 553 230-420

Testosterone done a year ago was 50, range 14-76

no progesterone test so far

DHEA saliva test 168, range 14-277

serum cortisol a year ago was 10, range 7-25

saliva cortisol 7am-9am: .94, range .27-2.06; 11am-1pm: .20, range .03-.77; 3pm-5pm: .13, range .03-.56; 10pm-12am: .04, range .03-.50.

The Saliva DHEA/cortisol test was done in Jan. by Great Smokies Diagnostic Labs. I am on 2.5 grains Armour and 10mg Cortef. I have been on the Armour since Nov. and the Cortef 2 weeks. Not feeling much better from either.

My husband test results:

TSH: prior to treatment 3.6 after treatment 1.29

Free T4 1.29, range 50-149

Free T3 433, range 230-420

Testosterone was low low normal but we have not gotten a copy of that test.

DHEA 152, range 14-277

Cortisol 7am-9am: 1.13; 11am-1pm: .27; 3pm-5pm: .13; 10pm-12am: .03. Same range as mine. He has been on Armour since Dec. and Cortef for 2 weeks.

If you can make something of this let me know.

Deborah

[Guest guest]

My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

Deborah

Re: Re: Cortef> > > What about testosterone, DHEA, estrogens, and progesterone?> > > Tx

[Guest guest]

I am surprised from both your results for adrenals that your DR gave you Cortef! On your test, I am surprised that you are not taking less of the Armour and some t4 with it. I would not be taking a steroid. Same with your husband. Did you guys take your thyroid meds before the blood test? Do either of you have Hashi?How fast have you increased your med levels?

My results: TSH 0.05 .71-1.85

Free T4 1.34 50-149

Free T3 553 230-420

Testosterone done a year ago was 50, range 14-76

no progesterone test so far

DHEA saliva test 168, range 14-277

serum cortisol a year ago was 10, range 7-25

saliva cortisol 7am-9am: .94, range .27-2.06; 11am-1pm: .20, range .03-.77; 3pm-5pm: .13, range .03-.56; 10pm-12am: .04, range .03-.50.

The Saliva DHEA/cortisol test was done in Jan. by Great Smokies Diagnostic Labs. I am on 2.5 grains Armour and 10mg Cortef. I have been on the Armour since Nov. and the Cortef 2 weeks. Not feeling much better from either.

My husband test results:

TSH: prior to treatment 3.6 after treatment 1.29

Free T4 1.29, range 50-149

Free T3 433, range 230-420

Testosterone was low low normal but we have not gotten a copy of that test.

DHEA 152, range 14-277

Cortisol 7am-9am: 1.13; 11am-1pm: .27; 3pm-5pm: .13; 10pm-12am: .03. Same range as mine. He has been on Armour since Dec. and Cortef for 2 weeks.

If you can make something of this let me know.

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My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

I was sitting here thinking about all this. Forget the adrenal stuff. On your thyroids, how fast did you guys up your thyroid meds? How many increases from the test before and the new results? Do you have all the old results?

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My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

You don't think our adrenal test show low enough to take Cortef? We do a fasting blood. This is the only blood test done since we started Armour last Nov. Not been tested for Hashi's. We upped our Armour by 30 mg every two weeks. No signs of hyper but still not all symptoms gone on this dose of Armour.

Re: Re: Cortef

My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

We had gotten up to 3 grains and I started having severe headaches that started around 2-4 am everyday for 3 weeks. A friend told me to take an Isocort when that happened to see if it helped and it did. The headache went away. Another vote for needing adrenal support. I was about to take the cortisol test so I couldn't take the Isocort or it would have screwed up the test so I backed off the Armour to 2 grains and the headaches stopped too.

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My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

I have a different view of the adrenal supplementation. I have a very low renin and aldosterone so for now am taking Florinef which is sort of a steroid, but not exactly. Since Dec, I already notice cuts are not healing and I am getting colds. I am due for more blood work, so I am hoping the increase in thyroid meds and the increase in ferritin and folic acid will mean I can get off this med. 2 weeks is not enough time to see how the t4 is in your body which is why most people allow 4 to 8 week. I think this clearly shows that every two weeks is too fast for you. You should be tested for Hashi. When you have that, the body will run between hyper and hypo rapidly as the thyroid dies and then the "attacks" of antibodies slow down. I am sure I am about to hear other points of view on this. I do know that many people had a real hard time on Armour and that is when Abbott, or rather Knoll then was able to give examples of how bad Armour was compared to their synthetic t4. Now I am on Armour. I am slowly increasing. I have a low t3. Many people had heart attacks from increasing the Armour without proper testing. Broda talks about it. If you had been dealing with thyroid issues and meds for a long time and decided to tweak your levels it might be better, but you are not sure what good feels like with the thyroid issues. Yes, many people have felt better on larger doses of Armour, but many have become very ill increasing the t3 when not warranted or too fast. U can't afford to backslide and become sicker. I find more people are sensitive to the change of levels than are not. In my opinion, your levels of t3 are too high and you are low on t4. I would drop 15 mg a day or even every other day and stay there for 4 weeks or longer than get tested on free t4 and free t3. That is JMHO

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I am surprised from both your results for adrenals that your DR gave you Cortef! On your test, I am surprised that you are not taking less of the Armour and some t4 with it. I would not be taking a steroid. Same with your husband. Did you guys take your thyroid meds before the blood test? Do either of you have Hashi?How fast have you increased your med levels? My results: TSH 0.05 .71-1.85

Free T4 1.34 50-149

Free T3 553 230-420

Testosterone done a year ago was 50, range 14-76

no progesterone test so far

DHEA saliva test 168, range 14-277

serum cortisol a year ago was 10, range 7-25

saliva cortisol 7am-9am: .94, range .27-2.06; 11am-1pm: .20, range .03-.77; 3pm-5pm: .13, range .03-.56; 10pm-12am: .04, range .03-.50.

The Saliva DHEA/cortisol test was done in Jan. by Great Smokies Diagnostic Labs. I am on 2.5 grains Armour and 10mg Cortef. I have been on the Armour since Nov. and the Cortef 2 weeks. Not feeling much better from either.

My husband test results:

TSH: prior to treatment 3.6 after treatment 1.29

Free T4 1.29, range 50-149

Free T3 433, range 230-420

Testosterone was low low normal but we have not gotten a copy of that test.

DHEA 152, range 14-277

Cortisol 7am-9am: 1.13; 11am-1pm: .27; 3pm-5pm: .13; 10pm-12am: .03. Same range as mine. He has been on Armour since Dec. and Cortef for 2 weeks.

If you can make something of this let me know.

[Guest guest]

Steroids mask pain and some symptoms. That doesn't necessarily mean that you needed cortisol.

Re: Re: Cortef

My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

Good point. All this is just so confusing, complex, etc. Seems to be just trial and error.

Re: Re: Cortef

My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. Don't know about low renin and aldosterone and not sure my doc does either. There may be other systems not working right on us but we are groping in the dark as I try to read, read, read and learn. Just know we are not feeling much better and that too maybe too soon to.

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I am surprised from both your results for adrenals that your DR gave you Cortef! On your test, I am surprised that you are not taking less of the Armour and some t4 with it. I would not be taking a steroid. Same with your husband. Did you guys take your thyroid meds before the blood test? Do either of you have Hashi?How fast have you increased your med levels? My results: TSH 0.05 .71-1.85

Free T4 1.34 50-149

Free T3 553 230-420

Testosterone done a year ago was 50, range 14-76

no progesterone test so far

DHEA saliva test 168, range 14-277

serum cortisol a year ago was 10, range 7-25

saliva cortisol 7am-9am: .94, range .27-2.06; 11am-1pm: .20, range .03-.77; 3pm-5pm: .13, range .03-.56; 10pm-12am: .04, range .03-.50.

The Saliva DHEA/cortisol test was done in Jan. by Great Smokies Diagnostic Labs. I am on 2.5 grains Armour and 10mg Cortef. I have been on the Armour since Nov. and the Cortef 2 weeks. Not feeling much better from either.

My husband test results:

TSH: prior to treatment 3.6 after treatment 1.29

Free T4 1.29, range 50-149

Free T3 433, range 230-420

Testosterone was low low normal but we have not gotten a copy of that test.

DHEA 152, range 14-277

Cortisol 7am-9am: 1.13; 11am-1pm: .27; 3pm-5pm: .13; 10pm-12am: .03. Same range as mine. He has been on Armour since Dec. and Cortef for 2 weeks.

If you can make something of this let me know.

[Guest guest]

I have learned for me and others, slow is better than rapid. There are exceptions to every rule. I would never give up Armour because it offers things the body needs and not all of it we understand, but many people have ended up adding t4 to it. Anyway, you need to listen to many people, then your body. Your own individual results will be the qualifier. What works for you will also not necessarily be what is right for DH. JMHO

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My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

I have been thinking that we may need to add T4. One thing I did notice when I backed off the armour to 2 grains was my hair immediately dryed up; on 3 grains it looks great.

Re: Re: Cortef

My husband has been on Armour since late Nov. Dec time frame. His T3 is a bit high but otherwise he is demonstrating no signs of being hyper quite the opposite. Another reason for taking cortef was that someone posted, Diane I think, that she said her doc thinks that if you have high T3 then there is something up with adrenals.

[Guest guest]

Are you still on 2? What were you on for the test?

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