Re: How to correct hypos properly

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In a message dated 1/22/01 1:31:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

RainbowFarm@... writes:

> Once one starts watching carbs, bg's get in control and

> insulin resistance lessens, one often can reduce or stop meds and maintain

> good control with diet and exercise. Please let us know what happens,

> , will you?

>

Barb:

Funny thing the above message I sent like at 1 AM this morning, but it says 6

AM so was yesterdays numbers.....today's so far are 84-144-73-85 all before

lunch......am waiting to here from Dr. and yes of course will let you know

how I come out..

[Guest guest]

> Actually today my levels have been 108-72-50-103-57. So I think the Dr

needs

> to take me off or at least cut back on glucophage.

****I agree. Once one starts watching carbs, bg's get in control and

insulin resistance lessens, one often can reduce or stop meds and maintain

good control with diet and exercise. Please let us know what happens,

, will you?

Barb

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In a message dated 1/25/01 8:18:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, fencible@...

writes:

> I was charged with careless, and the court reduced it to unsafe lane change

> > or something like that... they never knew that I was hypo, but if they

had

> > found out, I could have easily been stuck without a license... and

without

> a

> > job.

> >

> > Just some caring advice from someone who learned the hard way.

> >

> >

>

>

> There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

> charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving. I

> didn't stick around long enough to see the outcome.

>

>

> --

> Dave - 7:44:29 PM

Wow:

Guess I didnt get 's message.....but do I need to take my meter every

time I go for a drive just even here in town? And yes I will be careful

numbers have been great the last two days,

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In a message dated 1/25/01 8:27:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mcerlean@... writes:

> Really, please, do test, and ALWAYS carry your glucose tabs. If you are

> driving and start to feel that familiar fuzzy feeling, it's worth it to

pull

> over, right where you are, and test. I try not to think about what could

> have happened, but now I've changed my driving habits drastically.. the

> necessary car stuff: meter, glucose tabs (always located close by), and

cell

> phone.

:

I got this message after the one from Dave.....

So anyway, do I need to carry my meter with me everytime I drive in town? And

have a cell phone? Living alone.....I am really independent and have no one

to do anything for me. And of course nearest hospital is 50 miles away.

Oh yes, everyone: got my wonderful Bernstein book today.....have been reading

it but.....really struggling with the depression...........went to see the MD

today and she said that she thinks I am almost ready to get off the

glucophage completely am down to 500 MG once a day......wants to see me in a

week for both my numbers and my depression........i told her was watching my

carbos and walking and she admitted that it was due to my carbos that was

making the difference. My readings today right after meals have been about

110 and 115........so almost to low according to Dr Bernstein.

So, today I didn't walk, so very hard to exercise ......was even hard to get

to the DR........i cried in her office......life can be so overwhelming to

me!!!!! But each visit I tell her what a wonderful group all of you are and

how all of you have helped me so much and all about Dr. Bernsteins Book. I

am taking the book to my next visit.

Gosh, I wished I felt better, life can really suck sometimes and I should

feel on top of the world with this good news about my diabetes.

I just wanted to thank all of you again and tell all of you how much I love

you as family to me at a time when my own family really wants nothing to do

with me. I have come to value all of you so much. Sorry if this sounds

mushy and off subject.

hugs

thanks again !

[Guest guest]

Hi, , sorry you're in the middle of depression. It's been said by

people who know that depression often lifts when BGs get normalized and it

sounds like yours are getting better.

So glad you got the Bernstein book...you'll find lots of really good

information in it. I don't know that a lot of us can stick with his 6-12-12

plan but even getting down to 100 carbs a day (like Susie) or about 40 (like

me) helps a LOT.

You should ALWAYS have your meter with you. You never know when a hypo may

hit and if you don't have your meter you wouldn't have confirmation. Always

have your meter with you and always have glucose tabs with you! Take care.

Vicki

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, some caring advice, for your own sake, please never drive while in a

hypo state. I hope I'm not repeating what the others have already told you,

I am sooo behind in email, but I always test before I drive. I was in a car

accident a little over a year ago as a result of a hypo. Luckily the only

casualties were my car, a few wooden guide posts (21) on the side of the

highway, and my bruised ego (my bg read about 1.8, which is about 30, and

not definitely something I'm proud of).

Really, please, do test, and ALWAYS carry your glucose tabs. If you are

driving and start to feel that familiar fuzzy feeling, it's worth it to pull

over, right where you are, and test. I try not to think about what could

have happened, but now I've changed my driving habits drastically.. the

necessary car stuff: meter, glucose tabs (always located close by), and cell

phone.

I was charged with careless, and the court reduced it to unsafe lane change

or something like that... they never knew that I was hypo, but if they had

found out, I could have easily been stuck without a license... and without a

job.

Just some caring advice from someone who learned the hard way.

[Guest guest]

Dave O. wrote:

<< There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving. >>

An excellent source for info on that subject is . He's an

insuliun-using type 2, and a police dispatcher in Detroit. One of his e-mail

addresses is jfd@....

Susie

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Dave: what is MHD?

" Susie M. " wrote:

> Dave O. wrote:

>

> << There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

> charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving. >>

>

> An excellent source for info on that subject is . He's an

> insuliun-using type 2, and a police dispatcher in Detroit. One of his

> e-mail addresses is jfd@....

>

> Susie

>

>

>

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McErlean wrote:

>

> , some caring advice, for your own sake, please never drive while in a

> hypo state. I hope I'm not repeating what the others have already told you,

> I am sooo behind in email, but I always test before I drive. I was in a car

> accident a little over a year ago as a result of a hypo. Luckily the only

> casualties were my car, a few wooden guide posts (21) on the side of the

> highway, and my bruised ego (my bg read about 1.8, which is about 30, and

> not definitely something I'm proud of).

>

> Really, please, do test, and ALWAYS carry your glucose tabs. If you are

> driving and start to feel that familiar fuzzy feeling, it's worth it to pull

> over, right where you are, and test. I try not to think about what could

> have happened, but now I've changed my driving habits drastically.. the

> necessary car stuff: meter, glucose tabs (always located close by), and cell

> phone.

>

> I was charged with careless, and the court reduced it to unsafe lane change

> or something like that... they never knew that I was hypo, but if they had

> found out, I could have easily been stuck without a license... and without a

> job.

>

> Just some caring advice from someone who learned the hard way.

>

>

There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving. I

didn't stick around long enough to see the outcome.

--

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dare I join it? lol

DaveO wrote:

> It's a nasty newsgroup, misc.health.diabetes. Actually, it's the most

> technical when it comes to diabetes, but you have to have asbestos

> shorts on when you post there.. Ask SusieQ.

>

> Marr wrote:

> >

> > Dave: what is MHD?

> >

> > " Susie M. " wrote:

> >

> > > Dave O. wrote:

> > >

> > > << There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

>

> > > charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving.

> >>

> > >

> > > An excellent source for info on that subject is . He's an

> > > insuliun-using type 2, and a police dispatcher in Detroit. One of his

>

> > > e-mail addresses is jfd@....

> > >

> > > Susie

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't bother with it. It's about one of the most unpleasant things on the

Internet. :-(

Re: How to correct hypos properly

dare I join it? lol

DaveO wrote:

> It's a nasty newsgroup, misc.health.diabetes. Actually, it's the most

> technical when it comes to diabetes, but you have to have asbestos

> shorts on when you post there.. Ask SusieQ.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/26/01 4:23:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, whimsy2@...

writes:

> You should ALWAYS have your meter with you. You never know when a hypo may

> hit and if you don't have your meter you wouldn't have confirmation.

Always

>

> have your meter with you and always have glucose tabs with you! Take

care.

>

> Vicki

>

Vicki:

Thanks for the info.......I didn't know that I needed to carry my meter with

me....I am learning all the time........but I guess it is just common sense.

Gosh was up real late last night until 2 AM and now am up at 6 AM!! Hope I

can nap later....thanks again

[Guest guest]

It's a nasty newsgroup, misc.health.diabetes. Actually, it's the most

technical when it comes to diabetes, but you have to have asbestos

shorts on when you post there.. Ask SusieQ.

Marr wrote:

>

> Dave: what is MHD?

>

> " Susie M. " wrote:

>

> > Dave O. wrote:

> >

> > << There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

> > charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving. >>

> >

> > An excellent source for info on that subject is . He's an

> > insuliun-using type 2, and a police dispatcher in Detroit. One of his

> > e-mail addresses is jfd@....

> >

> > Susie

> >

> >

> >

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cariapat@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 1/25/01 8:18:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, fencible@...

> writes:

>

> > I was charged with careless, and the court reduced it to unsafe lane change

> > > or something like that... they never knew that I was hypo, but if they

> had

> > > found out, I could have easily been stuck without a license... and

> without

> > a

> > > job.

> > >

> > > Just some caring advice from someone who learned the hard way.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

> > charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving. I

> > didn't stick around long enough to see the outcome.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Dave - 7:44:29 PM

>

> Wow:

>

> Guess I didnt get 's message.....but do I need to take my meter every

> time I go for a drive just even here in town? And yes I will be careful

> numbers have been great the last two days,

>

The responsible answer to that is if you are subject to lows, then you

are responsible for making sure that your BG levels are in a safe area

before you get before the wheel of a car. If you don't, then you are

liable (some times criminally) for whatever happens.

Carry your meter. Test before you drive, carry glucose tabs.

--

Dave - 10:54:31 PM

T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, NPH

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In a message dated 01-01-26 01:45:53 EST, you write:

<<

Guess I didnt get 's message.....but do I need to take my meter every

time I go for a drive just even here in town? And yes I will be careful

numbers have been great the last two days,

>>

Answer: Yes! What's the big deal? Meter fits in my purse very nicely.

That's where I keep it all the time. Then when I'm home I know exactly where

it is. When I go out there it is. Glad your numbers are nice,

...isn't that a great feeling! Vicki

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/26/2001 5:10:56 AM Central Standard Time,

cariapat@... writes:

<<

Thanks for the info.......I didn't know that I needed to carry my meter with

me....I am learning all the time........but I guess it is just common sense.

Gosh was up real late last night until 2 AM and now am up at 6 AM!! Hope I

can nap later....thanks again

>>

,

I used my meter as an excuse to buy a new purse...something that fit the

meter nicely along with all my other stuff that I carry...always have my

" alien contactor " which is what my children call my meter

ressy

who 6 yo dd likes to push the " finger poker " for mom

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In a message dated 01/26/2001 8:13:22 AM Central Standard Time,

ottercritter@... writes:

<< I would take an hour, e.g., to shop for a pair of socks ...

lolol. >>

Thats Me!! Sometimes when I want to get away from the house and kids I take

5.00 and see what I can get....I have the nicest collection of wooden spoons

now... lol

ressy

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In a message dated 1/26/01 10:21:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, whimsy2@...

writes:

> Answer: Yes! What's the big deal? Meter fits in my purse very nicely.

> That's where I keep it all the time. Then when I'm home I know exactly

> where

> it is. When I go out there it is. Glad your numbers are nice,

> ...isn't that a great feeling! Vicki

Vicki......

simple answer...........my small purse and all....but I love an excuse to get

a NEW purse!!!!!!! hehehe seriously I will take it with me always from now

on. thanks again

[Guest guest]

Right on Susie!

" Susie M. " wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> It's surely hard to try to step outside your own situation emotionally

> right

> now. I write because I too have been through the mill emotionally. I had

> years of depression, and was suicidal for a long time. There is no easy,

> quick way out of that tailspin. It builds on itself. As we become

> depressed,

> we tend to isolate ourselves ... " stay home alone. " And that very

> isolation

> breeds more depression. I have found great comfort in getting close to

> nature. Some things I think saved me were that I took in this wonderful,

> lovable stray dog. He's still with me. With him for company, I was never

> completely alone. The internet was also a Godsend. On those endless

> nights,

> when I was really lonely, I could sign on and visit with good friends -

> many

> of whom were pretty much in the same boat. (I was on AOL at the time,

> which

> is a great place for chatting.)

>

> When you're down, it's the hardest thing to pick yourself up and do

> something. But it really does help! Take a bath, put on a little make-up,

> go

> for a walk. Or sometimes I would just go window-shopping (because I

> didn't

> have any money). I would take an hour, e.g., to shop for a pair of socks

> ...

> lolol.

>

> I never found an easy answer. What I learned, though, was that I *feel*

> better when I *am* better! So for me that meant getting on top of the

> diabetes, for one thing. And you're accomplishing that personal miracle

> right now! Your good diabetes control is something to rejoice in ... to

> be

> proud of. If your weather is miserable, you can go mall-walking.

> Sometimes

> groups of women set up their own exercise classes, perhaps at a local

> school, where you can pay by the month or by the session. Someone brings

> a

> boombox, someone else builds some step aerobics boxes, etc. It's really

> important to dwell on the positive, to stay active and not isolate

> yourself.

> Some day soon you'll look back on this time and wonder why those

> Negativity

> Beasties sneaked up on you like this. The world awaits each morning, and

> it's how we *decide* to greet each day that makes the difference.

>

> We're proud of you for doing such a bang-up job with your type 2. Another

>

> excellent book for type 2's is " The Protein Power LifePlan " by a

> husband-and-wife team of doctors who specialize in treating diabetics and

>

> overweight people. It can give you lots of confidence to find these

> well-known doctors and researchers who can back up what you are proving

> with

> your own daily experiences.

>

> Susie

>

>

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Dear ,

It's surely hard to try to step outside your own situation emotionally right

now. I write because I too have been through the mill emotionally. I had

years of depression, and was suicidal for a long time. There is no easy,

quick way out of that tailspin. It builds on itself. As we become depressed,

we tend to isolate ourselves ... " stay home alone. " And that very isolation

breeds more depression. I have found great comfort in getting close to

nature. Some things I think saved me were that I took in this wonderful,

lovable stray dog. He's still with me. With him for company, I was never

completely alone. The internet was also a Godsend. On those endless nights,

when I was really lonely, I could sign on and visit with good friends - many

of whom were pretty much in the same boat. (I was on AOL at the time, which

is a great place for chatting.)

When you're down, it's the hardest thing to pick yourself up and do

something. But it really does help! Take a bath, put on a little make-up, go

for a walk. Or sometimes I would just go window-shopping (because I didn't

have any money). I would take an hour, e.g., to shop for a pair of socks ...

lolol.

I never found an easy answer. What I learned, though, was that I *feel*

better when I *am* better! So for me that meant getting on top of the

diabetes, for one thing. And you're accomplishing that personal miracle

right now! Your good diabetes control is something to rejoice in ... to be

proud of. If your weather is miserable, you can go mall-walking. Sometimes

groups of women set up their own exercise classes, perhaps at a local

school, where you can pay by the month or by the session. Someone brings a

boombox, someone else builds some step aerobics boxes, etc. It's really

important to dwell on the positive, to stay active and not isolate yourself.

Some day soon you'll look back on this time and wonder why those Negativity

Beasties sneaked up on you like this. The world awaits each morning, and

it's how we *decide* to greet each day that makes the difference.

We're proud of you for doing such a bang-up job with your type 2. Another

excellent book for type 2's is " The Protein Power LifePlan " by a

husband-and-wife team of doctors who specialize in treating diabetics and

overweight people. It can give you lots of confidence to find these

well-known doctors and researchers who can back up what you are proving with

your own daily experiences.

Susie

[Guest guest]

MHD has never been a problem for me. I haven't even been attacked by Ted...

But then, I started my connected life on a network that thought flaming

folks was a way of life... I even got flamed for my choice of handles... Not

that it bothered me any.. I just flamed back!

Re: How to correct hypos properly

dare I join it? lol

DaveO wrote:

> It's a nasty newsgroup, misc.health.diabetes. Actually, it's the most

> technical when it comes to diabetes, but you have to have asbestos

> shorts on when you post there.. Ask SusieQ.

[Guest guest]

Now Teri, its really not that bad, but there are a few loonies there that

attack without thinking...

BTW, I've been on that newsgroup for nearly 3 years now and don't allow Ted

and company to bother me at all!

GRYN

Re: How to correct hypos properly

I wouldn't bother with it. It's about one of the most unpleasant things on

the Internet. :-(

Re: How to correct hypos properly

dare I join it? lol

DaveO wrote:

> It's a nasty newsgroup, misc.health.diabetes. Actually, it's the most

> technical when it comes to diabetes, but you have to have asbestos

> shorts on when you post there.. Ask SusieQ.

>

[Guest guest]

LOL! OK, , if you say so. I'll just say I have better things to do with

my time. How's that?

Teri

RE: How to correct hypos properly

Now Teri, its really not that bad, but there are a few loonies there that

attack without thinking...

BTW, I've been on that newsgroup for nearly 3 years now and don't allow Ted

and company to bother me at all!

GRYN

[Guest guest]

I'll buy that!

Re: How to correct hypos properly

LOL! OK, , if you say so. I'll just say I have better things to do

with my time. How's that?

Teri

RE: How to correct hypos properly

Now Teri, its really not that bad, but there are a few loonies there that

attack without thinking...

BTW, I've been on that newsgroup for nearly 3 years now and don't allow

Ted

and company to bother me at all!

GRYN

[Guest guest]

Marr wrote:

>

> dare I join it? lol

Depends on your skin thickness.. There are some very good posts there,

but some very smart people, but there's also the anti-spam brigade with

a hair-trigger that are real vocal.

As long as you don't as for info on aspartame, supplements, stevia,

etc., one can make it ok..

>

> DaveO wrote:

>

> > It's a nasty newsgroup, misc.health.diabetes. Actually, it's the most

> > technical when it comes to diabetes, but you have to have asbestos

> > shorts on when you post there.. Ask SusieQ.

> >

> > Marr wrote:

> > >

> > > Dave: what is MHD?

> > >

> > > " Susie M. " wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dave O. wrote:

> > > >

> > > > << There is a long on-going discussion in MHD about a person that was

> >

> > > > charged with vehicle homicide because they had a low while driving.

> > >>

> > > >

> > > > An excellent source for info on that subject is . He's an

> > > > insuliun-using type 2, and a police dispatcher in Detroit. One of his

> >

> > > > e-mail addresses is jfd@....

> > > >

> > > > Susie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >