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I'm sorry Lucia, I wasn't trying to be insulting

to " smaller weighing people " , I think I was

trying to get more at the attitude of the

people...so kind of a double play on the

" little " . More meaning small minded, but it does

often come from people without weight issues.

Obviously you understand more. And yes, many

things are just as difficult for someone 15lbs or

100lbs overweight, but honestly having gone from

being 15-20-50-100-150-+++ overweight, things do

change, and they do become harder the larger you

get. But I do think you took that into

consideration. :-)

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Message: 6

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:45:56 -0500

Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 559/ Reply

(De)........

You know, I'm pretty sure I'm " little person " ; I

made it down to 126 lbsfrom 140 lb or so.

.............................But I would never say

diet and exercise are easy. It's hard for me!

.............................Still, I do want to

advocate a little for letting us say

something!(Hopefully without lecturing

people.)Sometimes, larger people have a problem,

and think it's just them. Well,often, it's not

just them.

..........................Anyway, I can't pretend

to be able to tell someone who is 100 lbs

overweight what they should do. I haven't

experienced that degree of over weight.Plus, I

think everyone is slightly different, so

different things work foreveryone. But,

strangely enough, smaller people and larger

people canprovide useful information to each

other.

Lucia

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Ang...you poor thing!!! :-( You need the

sandman to add you too his list! hehe

Seems there was another drug used for

convulsions or something that I heard they were

trying for depression...can't remember it though.

Seems they are starting to try using other

categories of drugs alot.

Well glad you get out, as for the porn...I'll

admit it I enjoy it occassionally, but as far as

dopey men go drooling over the stuff instead of

theire partners....just remind him 1.they are

airbrushed and 2. most of them are lesbians

because they know what drooling men like him are

really like and don't want any part of them!

LOL....that might break the " fantasy " of it.

hehe It's one thing if you don't mind him

looking, or if you happend to enjoy looking at it

together as an occasional " tool " , but if it

bothers you he needs to get over it. (still

think you should give him " hubba hubba " pics of

you to ween him off) ;-)

Anyway...wonder how your mom got over it too??

maybe her chemistry changed with age???

Going out does make me more insecure, but it's

also that it just reminds me of all the pain,

sadness, hatred, stupidity, etc. that is out

there, and it often just TOTALLY freaks me out!!

I often think I'm just waaay to sensitive for

this world.

You bring up an interesting " what if " , one that

my mom (and myself) have posed before. Now for

her I know the answer....she would be darn near

cured. For me however, I know it would make a

VERY noticable difference, but I don't think

enough. I would still cry when I saw a dead

animal in the road, and I would still want to

chase down those damn little punks with the

blarring car stereos and shove them up.....well

think you get the picture. LOL I would dare a

guess that it might increase my going out by

maybe oh 30%, which is quite a bit. It's hard to

explain. hhumph I just don't know....but

wouldn't mind finding out. ;-) hehe

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Message: 13

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:29:46 -0000

Subject: Re: Digest Number

557/Replies.....(Christy,Ang)......

Depikot is an anticonvulsant and also used for

controling bi-polar (manic depressive), but it

works wonders for other things aas well. None of

the anti anziety or anti depressants work on me -

none of them

....................My 'had it forever - on't go

away' insomnia isn't even helped by rx. The best

sleep I get is post-op! LOL.

...........................My mom was full blow

agoraphobic for several years. I don't remember

things being any different with her (I was 7 and

8) - but she couldn't even go outside without my

dad there. I don't think I have that problem - I

love to get out - but I just can't do it if my

husbands home - I feel like if

I leave him home I'm leaving him with thousands

of 'perfect' porn stars to have a hay day with -

I so rediculus...but, if we could just decide

what to have a

problem with and what not to -- we be in alot

better place :-)

hhhmmmm....kya know - I don't think my mom ever

had treatment, wonder how she got over her

problem?

..................................The world brings

on more 'self-yuck' feelings and insecurities?

What if I sent you magic powder that you

sprinkled in your tea - and suddenly you wer thin

and more beautiful than you ever thought

possible? (also assume you had the perfect

outfit in the closet - LOL)....If your depression

were still the same, but you had no worries with

what other people though or how they saw you -

would that make a difference in going out?

Ang

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Oh yeah!!! Clooney.....hhuummm! ;-) and

Duchovny! hubba hubba hehe

I'm in central East Iowa, the quad-city area

along the Mississippi (the place in the national

news every year for the horrible flooding)

Looking for a new shrink thing...yeah trying to

do that, but only found a couple...the one I'll

prob try, and a man which I won't do again.

Pizza & O.J. for brkfast...yuuummmmm

Too funny!!! forget the bra here too....forget

as much as possible...just can't stand to be

confined. Butt sling!!! LMAO!!!!! (wish I

could just laugh the darn thing off)hehe

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Message: 15

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:42:36 -0000

Subject: Re: Digest Number 558

> May 7th here, and Clooney is the

> 6th...so we're in good company. HEHE ;-)

......oh - now that man I could live with :-)

Man, hard to find a good one there hu? Where are

you by the way? I sure wish yall would just come

live closer to me - it sure would be easier to

help! LOL. Just what you need hu - a move?

LOL.

Look in the phone book for one that IS NOT

associated with some big group - a private office

that doesn't have other docs in the same office

..................................mmmm, breakfast

is best for dinner - and likewise, pizza is best

for breakfast :-)

........................Ya know how your suppose

to where a bra to keep the girls up and high

(nope, don't do that

eigther) - well, I wonder if a sling for the

dariair would help? LOL - it would have to be a

BIG sling!

Ang

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Toodles,

~~~A

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> I'm sorry Lucia, I wasn't trying to be insulting

> to " smaller weighing people " , I think I was

> trying to get more at the attitude of the

> people...so kind of a double play on the

> " little " . More meaning small minded, but it does

> often come from people without weight issues.

> Obviously you understand more.

Hey Toodles...

Hahaha - funny, when I call you that I think of you sitting there in

pigtails! LOL.

.............Not to worry - Lucia is not the typical prissy little

thing :-) She knows what we mean!

> Ang...you poor thing!!! :-( You need the

> sandman to add you too his list! hehe

> Seems there was another drug used for

> convulsions or something that I heard they were

> trying for depression...can't remember it though.

> Seems they are starting to try using other

> categories of drugs alot.

...............Ya, the doctors who know hwt they are doing vs. the

onles who go by a list understand that bodies like yours and mind

don't respond to the typical treatments. Just because we get

drepressed - doesn't meen the thing we need is an anti depressant.

Other things can be out of whack that can cause the same troubles. I

was shoked that the depakot and whatever it was did so much for me -

I only took it for about a month - because after the chemicals get

back to balance and all was well - my body adjusted to normal and

fthen given a chance, produced it's own ??? to keep it in line. So

now I have aobut 1000$ or more worth of a pharmacy in the back room --

all stuff that is suposed to be taken " for years and years " - I take

it for a few weeks and all is well (depends on what it is of course).

(still

> think you should give him " hubba hubba " pics of

> you to ween him off) ;-)

..........<clearing of throat>...I have a digital cammera with a

timer ;-o

He has an entire removable drive full of me pics. LOL. (OH! Did I

say that out loud? Hmmm - if this makes me look bad - you all

pretend I didn't say that! Besides (defence here) - The bible says

everything goes except other people, animals, and things that will

hurt your body!

> Anyway...wonder how your mom got over it too??

> maybe her chemistry changed with age???

> Going out does make me more insecure, but it's

> also that it just reminds me of all the pain,

> sadness, hatred, stupidity, etc. that is out

> there, and it often just TOTALLY freaks me out!!

> I often think I'm just waaay to sensitive for

> this world.

.........I think this world is just way too insensative to us :-(

Can you imagine living in a world like yesteryear? When holding

hands was a big thing, and EVERYONE went to church. No one was

hungry or without because nighbors and church members rallied

together and were all one big family? When you and I would never be

sitting here alone, but instead be sitting together while the men

were hunting and the kids were picking berrys - us bussy getting the

pie shells ready? Oh I wish. I should have been born 100 years ago

(or at least be a tenn in the 60's ;-)

> would dare a

> guess that it might increase my going out by

> maybe oh 30%, which is quite a bit. It's hard to

> explain. hhumph I just don't know....but

> wouldn't mind finding out. ;-) hehe

.........I understand perfectly. Been there many many times. And

it's only after your out that 30% more that you start feeling better

and that % increases.

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On 8/23/02 7:35 AM, " weightlossbuddies2 "

<weightlossbuddies2 > wrote:

> I'm sorry Lucia, I wasn't trying to be insulting

> to " smaller weighing people " , I think I was

> trying to get more at the attitude of the

> people...so kind of a double play on the

> " little " .

Actually, I wasn't insulted. (Although, I guess my post sounded that way.)

Mostly, I just want to point out that all dieters have some insights into

how to lose weight.

I also recognize something I think you are saying too. Some smaller people

believe they *must* know more about controlling weight than you do simply

because they are smaller. Well, it's not true. Some thin people, like my

husband, are just naturally thin. My husband " forgets " to eat. He always

has. My mother-in-law reported that she always had to interrupt him to get

him to eat. When we first got married, we shared an office at school. I

always had to tell him it was lunch time and we should eat now.

Obviously, while my husband is thin, he knows next to nothing about weight

control. (Anything he knows, I have told him. So, if I tell him something

wrong-- well he thinks something wrong.)

Lucia

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http://www.thedietdiary.com/diet/myProgress/ResultsPlan1.html

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