Re: I am kicked off the LC-Carb list along with Ron

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/12/2001 10:56:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,

drmarion122@... writes:

<< Is there a rule that you can't disagree or post disagreements with a list

owner?

I know rule 100, but I thought that was the " only " rule.

Please advise. >>

I was on this list at one time, I left because of a disagreement with grant,

he didn't like my signature, I had a url for my astrology web page, he didn't

believe in astrology so he said either leave or take signature off my email.

then on the atkins list, we weren't allowed to post tips on specific lc

products or other sites, so another member started her own list, a whole

bunch of us left that one, why don't you and Ron do the same?

carol

[Guest guest]

;

Because he insulted Ron and that is unacceptable. It is also unethical to let

people become involved and interested and develop trust and then delete them on

a whim or personal insult.

In my business (clinical psychology) this is grounds for a lawsuit

[Guest guest]

Didn't do anything except protest Ron being kicked off. I don't need to be on

the list, but folks, it is not okay to allow Ron to be treated like that, in my

opinion.

n

[Guest guest]

> Last night I was kicked off the LC Diabetes List.

Welcome to the club, n, you are not the first!

> He wrote back several nasty notes, saying that

> if I didn't like it, too bad and he was taking

> me off the list too. Is this how it works?

Yes, it sure is!

> Is there a rule that you can't disagree or post

> disagreements with a list owner?

You can disagree all you want but there is no rule that the list

owner has to post them!

There are more lists and newsgroups on the Internet than you will

ever be able to read, n, let alone contribute to. Why worry

about that one? It is their loss!

[Guest guest]

Please write him personally. He is appropriately outraged. He expects an

apology from Grant, and I don't blame him. Maybe you should write Grant too.

He will kick you off the list as he now has kicked resmith315 off too.

n

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/12/2001 5:21:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

drmarion122@... writes:

<< Please write him personally. He is appropriately outraged. He expects an

apology from Grant, and I don't blame him. Maybe you should write Grant

too.

He will kick you off the list as he now has kicked resmith315 off too. >>

Sorry, what is it that Ron did that was so terrible? I would think he'd like

his list so active with reliable info and teaching.

carol

[Guest guest]

> Last night I was kicked off the LC Diabetes List. I received a message

from

> Ron that he was no longer allowed to post. Then I wrote to Grant and...>

***Well, maybe Ron will join us here :-) Teri and N. (our moderators)

are much nicer than Grant it would seem. btw, you're not alone. Many of us

have been kicked off that list, and some who are more perservering, have

been kicked off many times! This topic comes up on this list every few

months. Our rules here are mostly to play nice.

Barb

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Barb. :-) We try. <g>

Teri

Re: I am kicked off the LC-Carb list along with Ron

> Last night I was kicked off the LC Diabetes List. I received a message

from

> Ron that he was no longer allowed to post. Then I wrote to Grant and...>

***Well, maybe Ron will join us here :-) Teri and N. (our moderators)

are much nicer than Grant it would seem. btw, you're not alone. Many of us

have been kicked off that list, and some who are more perservering, have

been kicked off many times! This topic comes up on this list every few

months. Our rules here are mostly to play nice.

Barb

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[Guest guest]

I asked Ron if he would join us here. He says there's a privacy problem. I

asked him to explain that. He hasn't responded yet. When he does I'll let

you all know. (I don't think we have a privacy problem, do you?) Vicki

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01-01-12 18:05:22 EST, you write:

<<

Sorry, what is it that Ron did that was so terrible? I would think he'd like

his list so active with reliable info and teaching.

>>

He didn't do anything that was so terrible..Grant (listowner) has a rule of

no quoting (which he occasionally lifts) and Ron made a joke about it. Grant

got mad and kicked him off. n objected and he kicked her off. RE

objected and Grant kicked him off too. Grant is a control freak with no

sense of humor. That list is a dangerous place. Vicki

[Guest guest]

I agree, n, just saying, for one, would love to see him on this list.

:-) (hope, hope) As I recall, when he was last invited, he was too busy

with the LC-D list. And, since we are not a low carb list, perhaps he

wouldn't like it.

Barb

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> Didn't do anything except protest Ron being kicked off. I don't need to

be on the list, but folks, it is not okay to allow Ron to be treated like

that, in my opinion.

>

> n

[Guest guest]

Hello n!!!

I have landed safely in this group. In the e- group land I am known

as ressy. LC diabetes only let us have names not our nicknames.

Good to see you here

ressy aka robin

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/12/2001 11:34:28 PM Central Standard Time,

drmarion122@... writes:

<< think he quoted. What I did was write to ask if Grant would reconsider.

Got kicked off with quite a nasty note from Grant

n

>>

And I sent the information to a few on the list and got removed. I didn't

even get a message from Grant just the notification that I had been removed

ressy

[Guest guest]

So far, so good. I have been " spilling my guts " here and that is a area I

like to protect (my guts)..

n

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/13/2001 1:48:52 PM Central Standard Time,

drmarion122@... writes:

<< " the horses mouth " , Ron being the horse. >>

n I have spoked to Ron personally and he is at glucolow@...

ressy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/13/01 7:45:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, cprcarol@...

writes:

<< > If, when you reply to a list post, you could include a couple of phrases

from

> the message to which you are replying, it would make it much easier to

follow

> your replies.

Unlike other lists........... >>

Hmmm most list's that are on the net, follow standard newsgroup nettiquette

which means that you copy at least part of the post you are referrign to, and

either put < > before and after it, or put

>

>

>

all the way down the side where is copied...

Then you post your comments below it....

I can't imagine a list where there is no copying of a prior post so we know

what on earth they are talking about....

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/14/2001 12:44:32 AM Central Standard Time,

GayRghts@... writes:

<<

I can't imagine a list where there is no copying of a prior post so we know

what on earth they are talking about.... >>

I did not have to imagine it...I lived with it. And that was the first list

I ever joined so this new found freedom on this list is wonderful.

But I am a bit of a newbie on computers. What is flaming and spam...flaming

as in how my dh cooks on the grill and spam as in what you buy in the store??

ressy

clueless in chicago

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/14/2001 9:14:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lists@... writes:

<< There was a rumor that it would be marketed in the UK first. Somebody

asked about it on a German diabetes list recently (Jan. 6th). >>

I heard last year there are too many problems with it, like inaccuracy, and

you still have to do finger sticks 3 times a day, have you heard this?

carol

[Guest guest]

I have some spys in top places working on getting the watch. Will you keep

you posted.

n

[Guest guest]

> It just occurred to me that in Europe the

> glucowatch is already for sale to the public.

> Have you investigated it? That is the watch

> that does continuous glucose monitoring. It

> is approved by the FDA but not available

> for public sale yet.

There was a rumor that it would be marketed in the UK first. Somebody

asked about it on a German diabetes list recently (Jan. 6th).

Translated, it went like this:

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QUESTION: Have any of you heard anything new about the Glucowatch in

the UK? Cygnus said they were going to start selling it in the last

quarter of 2000 but I haven't seen anything up to now.

ANSWER: The Glucowatch has been appearing " next year " regularly for

the last ten years. :-))))

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I have a strange feeling that this device has reached the same stage

as the automobile engine that runs off tap water!

[Guest guest]

> I heard last year there are too many

> problems with it [the BG meter worn

> like a watch], like inaccuracy, and

> you still have to do finger sticks 3

> times a day, have you heard this?

There were reports that the special pad worn between the watch and

the skin caused an allergic reaction after a time and you had to move

the watch to a new position. Now, there aren't all that many

positions where you can wear a wrist watch ... !

I also read somebody's opinion that the information you get from it

is of the " high " , " medium " and " low " type which then prompts you to

get out your trusted old BG meter to see what is really going on.

These are all rumors, of course. Rumors are not much use to diabetics

but they can be useful for people out to manipulate the value of a

company's stock. You be the judge! I will keep my eye open for more

solid information but I still feel that the best place to look for it

is in the Wall Street Journal.

[Guest guest]

Re: glucowatch irritation

Perhaps the patient could wear the glucowatch during sleep or at times when

he/she is likely to go low. I would think there would be less chance for

skin irritation.

Carol T

[Guest guest]

Will hopefully have the scoop directly from the " horse " (e.g as in " horse's

mouth) we know at the FDA by Thursday.

n

[Guest guest]

Re glucowatch irritation:

I agree that it is most useful at certain times to have the watch. We need

it badly at dinner and during the night.

There is a continuous glucose monitor that you can wear for three days that

sounds great, but get this, it reads the data into a black box so that only

your doctor can review it. RIDICULOUS. Dr. Bernstein told us about the days

when he had to go to the doctor's office to use a glucometer; thanks to Dr. B

and a few friends, the glucometer was released for use by diabetics at home.

That makes me angry; I can read the data, don't need a black box or doctor to

see what food and insulin is doing.

n