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Kari,

I'm very sorry to hear of this. I am praying for God's will to be done, if

it is her time then I'm praying that it will be peaceful for her. I'm

praying for comfort for you Mom and family - it is a very hard time to go

through.

May God give you the strength to be part of the support Mom Pudge needs at

this time, and the strength and peace that you need to make it through this.

Candace

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Well, we were informed via another email that it's just a matter of hours

now. Gramma is now to the point where she is barely responsive and sleeps

all the time and very weak. Her clothes for the funeral have already been

picked out, as well as all funeral arrangements except for the date.

I think it was beyond a hospice at the point where the doctor decided to

stop the fluids. Mom Pudge is really torn up this morning. Thank goodness

my brother happened to be visiting her this weekend and can be of some

support. He's going to get her to our Christian Meeting today, which is

good cause she needs to be with her friends for a while. I'm hoping she

comes down here...

Thanks for the warm thoughts :o)

Kari

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Kari - My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your whole family. It

sounds like your great gramma pudge has had a full happy life. Its not easy

to see the ones we love declining slowly like this but it doesn't seem to

sound like she is suffering. {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}} to all

Take Care

G.

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In a message dated 09/23/2000 9:08:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

kari@... writes:

<< When it rains it pours, doesn't it? >>

Oh, Kari - it must seem that way!

I'll be praying for peace for Great-Gramma Pudge, and comfort for all of you.

Some of those little people who are in their 80's are pretty tough -

they've had to be to make it that long - and I've always been surprised at

the fight they have in them. I worked in a nursing home for a few years

(when I got out of high school) and became good buddies with many of my

" little people " . They were never the same people that they'd been years

ago, but I hadn't known them then - so it wasn't sad for me like it was for

family members. Of course it was sad if they were ill, or in pain, but

when diseases had robbed them of the person that they were - it seemed

especially brutal.....

Terri

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Kari,

I am so sorry that you and your family are going through this. Please let

mom know we are thinking of her and take care of yourself, OK? It's very

hard to wait for someone to die, so whatever you do, be gentle on yourself

and eat lo carb. YOu will feel better.

corky

> Hey everyone! I've been reading throughout the day and have had some

> pretty good laughs.. Norma is just too much and Terri is following close

> behind! *LOL* OR in front..?? In any case, it's been a funny day of

> reading.

>

> Now, to inform you all, that Great Gramma Pudge (my gramma, mom pudge's

> mom) is not getting any better and mom was informed (by email

> nonetheless... boy, her brother's gf has such a sympathetic heart,

> wouldn't you say??) that the doctor has stopped the IV's of antibiotics

> and fluids. In other words, gramma is going to die soon without them.

> The doctor said there is nothing more that can be done for her. She's

> 86 and in the last stage of Alzheimers. When she woke up in the

> hospital when mom was there, she thought she was there because she'd had

> a baby. My cousin gave her a doll and she thought that was it...

> This is sad.

>

> I don't know if mom will be back on list Monday or not... maybe we will

> hear from her tomorrow, I'm not sure, but in any case, I wanted to let

> you know.

>

> Gramma had a full life though and these past 5 have been hard for her.

> The last two have been terrible and this last one has been extremely sad

> for her. All she does is cry and talk about her mother. She went from a

> vibrant, busy woman, to a slow, sad old lady. I'm sad, but kind of

> relieved that she won't have to go on and get worse... I hope that

> doesn't sound bad... that's just the feeling I have right now. Maybe

> that will change.. I just don't like her slowly dying. I would prefer a

> fast one for her so she doesn't suffer...

>

> When it rains it pours, doesn't it?

>

> Kari

>

>

>

>

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Kari, my thoughts are with you. Is there an inpatient hospice where Gramma

Pudge could be cared for? Her comfort and her family's well-being are so

very important, and none better to provide than a hospice program. Hugs and

warm thoughts, Christabelle

OT mostly

Hey everyone! I've been reading throughout the day and have had some

pretty good laughs.. Norma is just too much and Terri is following close

behind! *LOL* OR in front..?? In any case, it's been a funny day of

reading.

Now, to inform you all, that Great Gramma Pudge (my gramma, mom pudge's

mom) is not getting any better and mom was informed (by email

nonetheless... boy, her brother's gf has such a sympathetic heart,

wouldn't you say??) that the doctor has stopped the IV's of antibiotics

and fluids. In other words, gramma is going to die soon without them.

The doctor said there is nothing more that can be done for her. She's

86 and in the last stage of Alzheimers. When she woke up in the

hospital when mom was there, she thought she was there because she'd had

a baby. My cousin gave her a doll and she thought that was it...

This is sad.

I don't know if mom will be back on list Monday or not... maybe we will

hear from her tomorrow, I'm not sure, but in any case, I wanted to let

you know.

Gramma had a full life though and these past 5 have been hard for her.

The last two have been terrible and this last one has been extremely sad

for her. All she does is cry and talk about her mother. She went from a

vibrant, busy woman, to a slow, sad old lady. I'm sad, but kind of

relieved that she won't have to go on and get worse... I hope that

doesn't sound bad... that's just the feeling I have right now. Maybe

that will change.. I just don't like her slowly dying. I would prefer a

fast one for her so she doesn't suffer...

When it rains it pours, doesn't it?

Kari

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> Kari, my thoughts are with you. Is there an inpatient hospice where

Gramma

> Pudge could be cared for? Her comfort and her family's well-being are so

> very important, and none better to provide than a hospice program. Hugs

and

> warm thoughts, Christabelle

Well, we were informed via another email that it's just a matter of hours

now. Gramma is now to the point where she is barely responsive and sleeps

all the time and very weak. Her clothes for the funeral have already been

picked out, as well as all funeral arrangements except for the date.

I think it was beyond a hospice at the point where the doctor decided to

stop the fluids. Mom Pudge is really torn up this morning. Thank goodness

my brother happened to be visiting her this weekend and can be of some

support. He's going to get her to our Christian Meeting today, which is

good cause she needs to be with her friends for a while. I'm hoping she

comes down here...

Thanks for the warm thoughts :o)

Kari

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> Kari - My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your whole family. It

> sounds like your great gramma pudge has had a full happy life. Its not

easy

> to see the ones we love declining slowly like this but it doesn't seem to

> sound like she is suffering. {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}} to all

Thank you. It's been a lot for our family lately, I'd like things to just

settle down for a bit.

Kari

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> Kari,

> I am so sorry that you and your family are going through this. Please let

> mom know we are thinking of her and take care of yourself, OK? It's very

> hard to wait for someone to die, so whatever you do, be gentle on yourself

> and eat lo carb. YOu will feel better.

> corky

Mom's taking it very hard, so I'm worried about her. I hate the distance

between us. But I'll be fine, I know she was so sad and dont want her to be

anymore. I did cry this morning when talking to mom and my sis, but I hate

when my mom is so sad.

Thanks for the advise, a.

Kari

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Hospice will work with family members too. They are very good with grief

work and will help even after the passing of the patient. YOu may want to

try and hood you mom up with them.

a

>

> Well, we were informed via another email that it's just a matter of hours

> now. Gramma is now to the point where she is barely responsive and sleeps

> all the time and very weak. Her clothes for the funeral have already been

> picked out, as well as all funeral arrangements except for the date.

>

> I think it was beyond a hospice at the point where the doctor decided to

> stop the fluids. Mom Pudge is really torn up this morning. Thank

goodness

> my brother happened to be visiting her this weekend and can be of some

> support. He's going to get her to our Christian Meeting today, which is

> good cause she needs to be with her friends for a while. I'm hoping she

> comes down here...

>

> Thanks for the warm thoughts :o)

>

> Kari

>

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> Oh, Kari - it must seem that way!

> I'll be praying for peace for Great-Gramma Pudge, and comfort for all of

you.

> Some of those little people who are in their 80's are pretty tough -

> they've had to be to make it that long - and I've always been surprised at

> the fight they have in them> when diseases had robbed them of the person

that they were - it seemed

> especially brutal.....

That's why I'm sad but kind of relieved because she is not the person she

was, at all. It was horrible to see her the way she was, all I could do is

cry when we were visiting her. Of course she didn't remember me... but she

is a fighter, that's for sure.

Thanks for the prayers, Teri.

Kari

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Kari my husband's grandmother passed away recently from the same disease. We

saw the descent over the years .. I'm praying for you & your family for a

peaceful conclusion to a wonderful life of a much loved family member.

Hugs

Lyssa

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