Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Sometime, when no one else is around, I'll share the fantasy of what I want to do to the doc I saw that sent me home because " She's too fat to be sick " and caused me to have my thyroid killed off by RAI.... I was a body builder with only 21% body fat BEFORE I started eating like a pig and dropping over a pound a day... and he called me too fat to be sick!!!!! I got terrible headaches if I didn't eat so he gave me a pain medication that expressly stated to not drive or operate machinery while using it... I was a truck driver working 10 to 12 hour days.. and he gave me that????? Again, I'm feeling better now, after 18 months of self medicating, without labs, going strictly by my symptoms, basals and the help of you folks than I did under the care of docs since I got sick nearly 16 years ago. How sad is that??? that I can do better on my own, using OTC meds and common sense and the open-mindedness to seek out information than any of them could do with medical degrees and thousands and thousands of dollars in lab tests? Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:37:49 -0600 " " writes: > Yeh, a good --s kicking wouldn't hurt a thing! Why should SHE care, > she's > getting the client's money AND still has her hair. Sometimes it > makes you > want to pull someone's hair OUT. > > > Tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I'm not sure... I went through some big time breakage, for me... nothing near what some of you guys have been going through... but now I'm not finding hardly anything in the drain and I swear I'm getting blonde streaks.... I suspect that we are having a lot more breakage as the hair starts coming in healthier... that maybe after that stage has passed we start getting rid of the old hair as new hair comes in.... I've had a receding hair line.. at the temples.. I just changed my part to the middle and covered it... that hair is coming back now.... and it's VERY VERY light.... for those that don't know, or forgot... I had blonde hair that turned to a 'not nice' mousy brown color... folks that have only known me 6 or 7 years, and especially those that have only known me three or four.. don't even consider me a blonde and look at me funny when I say it..... I'm going to admit this.. but only to you guys... I look in the mirror every time I walk by.. waiting to see if it's coming in blonde or if I'm just going gray..... Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:15:07 -0800 "JAMY" writes: So, why would my hair lose be increasing so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 GRAY! LOL Re: combat boots. I'm not sure... I went through some big time breakage, for me... nothing near what some of you guys have been going through... but now I'm not finding hardly anything in the drain and I swear I'm getting blonde streaks.... I suspect that we are having a lot more breakage as the hair starts coming in healthier... that maybe after that stage has passed we start getting rid of the old hair as new hair comes in.... I've had a receding hair line.. at the temples.. I just changed my part to the middle and covered it... that hair is coming back now.... and it's VERY VERY light.... for those that don't know, or forgot... I had blonde hair that turned to a 'not nice' mousy brown color... folks that have only known me 6 or 7 years, and especially those that have only known me three or four.. don't even consider me a blonde and look at me funny when I say it..... I'm going to admit this.. but only to you guys... I look in the mirror every time I walk by.. waiting to see if it's coming in blonde or if I'm just going gray..... Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:15:07 -0800 "JAMY" writes: So, why would my hair lose be increasing so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Chriss---- high cholesterol levels, especially the kind resistant to diet,and meds, are symptomatic of thyroid disease(hypothyroid) Hugs, Feisty combat boots. > Thanks for all of your input! you guys > are so funny... > I read the one about oxygenation being a problem. > My blood pressure is so low, you would think I've > been embalmed! > Could that have alot to do with it? > What are things that could help relieve this? > My mother has a history of circulatory problems > and high cholesterol. (dont know if i spelled that right) > She had a quadruple bypass at 47. > And both arteries in her neck scraped. > I sure don't want to end up there. > She has been slightly overweight for most of her > life, and usually pretty tired. Maybe her thyroid > levels should be checked as well. > My little brother was just tested also. > running a muk in this family! > Chriss. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 You are soooo mean to me!!! Even if it's gray.. that's a normal color and I would have gone gray someday anyway... it's this unnatural odd mousey brown color that I truly hate. Thumbs in ears, fingers waggling, tongue sticking out.. spittle flying!!!!!! hehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:13:47 -0800 "JAMY" writes: GRAY! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Getting thyroid meds/levels up to optimal should help with a lot of that... You just need to stick to it.. to figure out what you need for your body.... lots of trial and error.. but finding the answers is so cool it's worth throwing a party for each and every one of them! Topper () On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:19:05 -0000 " chriss80631 " writes: > Thanks for all of your input! you guys > are so funny... > I read the one about oxygenation being a problem. > My blood pressure is so low, you would think I've > been embalmed! > Could that have alot to do with it? > What are things that could help relieve this? > My mother has a history of circulatory problems > and high cholesterol. (dont know if i spelled that right) > She had a quadruple bypass at 47. > And both arteries in her neck scraped. > I sure don't want to end up there. > She has been slightly overweight for most of her > life, and usually pretty tired. Maybe her thyroid > levels should be checked as well. > My little brother was just tested also. > running a muk in this family! > Chriss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I am an auburn beauty. It is only my roots that are gray! Re: combat boots. You are soooo mean to me!!! Even if it's gray.. that's a normal color and I would have gone gray someday anyway... it's this unnatural odd mousey brown color that I truly hate. Thumbs in ears, fingers waggling, tongue sticking out.. spittle flying!!!!!! hehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:13:47 -0800 "JAMY" writes: GRAY! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Only your hairdresser knows ? Feisty Re: combat boots. You are soooo mean to me!!! Even if it's gray.. that's a normal color and I would have gone gray someday anyway... it's this unnatural odd mousey brown color that I truly hate. Thumbs in ears, fingers waggling, tongue sticking out.. spittle flying!!!!!! hehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:13:47 -0800 "JAMY" writes: GRAY! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 cheater, cheater!!! Jamy cheats!!!! heheehehhehehehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:18:22 -0800 "JAMY" writes: I am an auburn beauty. It is only my roots that are gray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 It is not that I cheat, but take my responsibility to beautify my surroundings very seriously. Re: combat boots. cheater, cheater!!! Jamy cheats!!!! heheehehhehehehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:18:22 -0800 "JAMY" writes: I am an auburn beauty. It is only my roots that are gray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Good for you, Jamy. Glad to hear that you are a responsible individual! *wink* Topper () On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 05:37:35 -0800 "JAMY" writes: It is not that I cheat, but take my responsibility to beautify my surroundings very seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 You been inta dat bottle again Jamy? LOL! So have I. My naturally very dark hair has been coming in a little lighter every yr, with gray at the temples going around to the bottom of the back. Since I wear my hair very short, it looks like a duck's tail feathers, when I'm not coloring it. I'm not ready for all that gray yet, and I'm enjoying still having my bottle of color! Tx Re: combat boots. You are soooo mean to me!!! Even if it's gray.. that's a normal color and I would have gone gray someday anyway... it's this unnatural odd mousey brown color that I truly hate. Thumbs in ears, fingers waggling, tongue sticking out.. spittle flying!!!!!! hehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:13:47 -0800 "JAMY" writes: GRAY! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Everyone knows about mine, as I know about theirs because it's just having fun to me! Why try to fool anyone? I think people get more amused if we're self conscious about it. I think I look like I've aged more over the last two yrs, than the last 20! It's the aging disease---thyroid. Tx Re: combat boots. Only your hairdresser knows ? Feisty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Yeh! Re: combat boots. cheater, cheater!!! Jamy cheats!!!! heheehehhehehehehehehe Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 That's the sad part about unrecognized thyroid disease. All these things CAN be caused by long standing thyroid problems. Doctors have been busy for light yrs, treating symptoms, rather than getting at the root of the problem. You could probably ask your average doctor if he would ever treat high cholesterol, high blood pressure, coronary artery disease, depression, anxiety, poor circulation, excema, thin breaking nails, bipolar disorder, mitral valve disorder, atrial fibrillation, eye problems, super-thinning hair, rapidly aging skin, arthritic-like symptoms, eating disorders, all kinds of foot disorders, foggy thinking, insulin resistance, digestive and bowel disorders, and the list goes on and on----by doing extreme thyroid evaluations----and he/she would laugh at you and look at you like you are crazy. The reason it is like this is because the drug companies brainwashed these doctors while they were in medical schools and onward, even by sending their people to educate the future doctors of this nation on the " value " of treating symptoms with one drug after another. Don't think that the scientific community of drug companies doesn't know that many times this sort of disease lies at the very root of things, but the deal is that they won't make a fortune off of the American public, if the root of the problem is gotten to that fast. Once thyroid disease is diagnosed and treated PROPERLY, it's a piece of cake to be fairly healthy, barring cancer, etc...they do not want us to know that. Now, you COULD say, well, that's private enterprise, but when people are being lied to and that kind of info is being suppressed from the public with billions of dollars each yr, and we're all paying for it by being gouged to death by the Big Daddy Drug Companies, it's just downright criminal, no question about it. I frankly want to start seeing these executives and their cronies brought up to the public eye and prosecuted for bribery, blackmail, and suppression of evidence that is vital for the lives of what?-----a couple of billion people? Tx combat boots. > Thanks for all of your input! you guys > are so funny... > I read the one about oxygenation being a problem. > My blood pressure is so low, you would think I've > been embalmed! > Could that have alot to do with it? > What are things that could help relieve this? > My mother has a history of circulatory problems > and high cholesterol. (dont know if i spelled that right) > She had a quadruple bypass at 47. > And both arteries in her neck scraped. > I sure don't want to end up there. > She has been slightly overweight for most of her > life, and usually pretty tired. Maybe her thyroid > levels should be checked as well. > My little brother was just tested also. > running a muk in this family! > Chriss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 they should be made accountable! PERIOD. Topper () On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:15:17 -0600 " " writes: > That's the sad part about unrecognized thyroid disease. All these things > CAN be caused by long standing thyroid problems. Doctors have been > busy for light yrs, treating symptoms, rather than getting at the root of > the problem. You could probably ask your average doctor if he would > ever treat high cholesterol, high blood pressure, coronary artery disease, > depression, anxiety, poor circulation, excema, thin breaking nails, bipolar > disorder, mitral valve disorder, atrial fibrillation, eye problems, > super-thinning hair, rapidly aging skin, arthritic-like symptoms, eating disorders, > all kinds of foot disorders, foggy thinking, insulin resistance, digestive and > bowel disorders, and the list goes on and on----by doing extreme thyroid > evaluations----and he/she would laugh at you and look at you like you are > crazy. The reason it is like this is because the drug companies > brainwashed > these doctors while they were in medical schools and onward, even by > sending their people to educate the future doctors of this nation on the > " value " of > treating symptoms with one drug after another. Don't think that the > scientific community of drug companies doesn't know that many times > this sort of disease lies at the very root of things, but the deal is > that they won't make a fortune off of the American public, if the root of the > problem is gotten to that fast. Once thyroid disease is diagnosed and > treated PROPERLY, it's a piece of cake to be fairly healthy, barring > cancer, > etc...they do not want us to know that. Now, you COULD say, well, > that's > private enterprise, but when people are being lied to and that kind > of info > is being suppressed from the public with billions of dollars each > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Mine has gone so white that if I had 7 little short guys standing near me, you could call me Snow White! Re: combat boots. You are soooo mean to me!!! Even if it's gray.. that's a normal color and I would have gone gray someday anyway... it's this unnatural odd mousey brown color that I truly hate. Thumbs in ears, fingers waggling, tongue sticking out.. spittle flying!!!!!! hehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:13:47 -0800 "JAMY" writes: GRAY! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 I have gone so gray at 49, even my GYN knows, if ya get my point! Re: combat boots. Only your hairdresser knows ? Feisty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Gang - I am hairdresser/colorist going thru thyroid stuff - my hair has come out big time. If you have any specific hair related question I will be happy to assist. Re: combat boots. You are soooo mean to me!!! Even if it's gray.. that's a normal color and I would have gone gray someday anyway... it's this unnatural odd mousey brown color that I truly hate. Thumbs in ears, fingers waggling, tongue sticking out.. spittle flying!!!!!! hehehehehe Topper () On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:13:47 -0800 "JAMY" writes: GRAY! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Hi, , Okay... I am 57, Hypothyroid/Hashi's, the thinning hair problem before starting Armour is not completely gone. My hair still appears thin, the dryness has improved somewhat, but I also keep it pretty short now. I am not " prematurely gray " , I am going platinum! Yikes! hair color change (losing pigment) can be related to Hypothyroidism. Of the commercially available products that will not clog the pores on my scalp, which ones would be good ones to try? My hair tends to lie " flat " and straight if washed and dried without using something for " body " . What do you think? BTW, I see my hairdresser on Tuesday and would like to let her know about your suggestions. I do not color my hair, but have in the past with disastrous results -- scalp burned and hair turned to straw even when no bleaching is done. Ugh! Would love to get a perm to help things out here, but I get burns from those, too. Any ideas for me to try? Dianne At 12:11 PM 1/10/04 -0600, you wrote: Gang - I am hairdresser/colorist going thru thyroid stuff - my hair has come out big time. If you have any specific hair related question I will be happy to assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Hehehe, I gotcha! Re: combat boots. I have gone so gray at 49, even my GYN knows, if ya get my point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Hi ---You know what I'm wondering? Since my thyroid status is less hypo now, after 6 or 7 yrs of being that way constantly, my hair is now shinier, with some of the oil back in it, yet, it now has no body to it. It is slightly wavy still, but no body. When I was more hypo and had a ton of hair with it all dried out, it had this wonderful body to it, even though it was like dull nylon. What IS this floppy hair now? I take Evening Primrose forever now, with other Omegas, my vitamins, etc.... but it is still oilier (which I should be grateful for I know) with absolutely NO body left in it. Sometimes I think I want the hypo hair back! Tx Re: combat boots. Gang - I am hairdresser/colorist going thru thyroid stuff - my hair has come out big time. If you have any specific hair related question I will be happy to assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 For years in the salon I have met people with thyroid conditions and people that have gone thru chemo and have new hair growing in. This has all started happening to me in the last 6 mos. So having seen it on my hair myself, thyroid hair is different. When I felt it on my clients, especially home color clients I always felt like the fell they had on their ends, like being coated, was a result of home color use. Repeated overlapping of color. But, now going thru this, I know this may not be the case. Mine being short was very coated. It felt like Barbie doll hair. What was left of it. Did not seem like any gel, volumizer, paste or hairspray helped it. I cut it shorter as I stated. The shampoos I once used, still left it feeling dry. So I switched to more moisturizing ones. I am not on treatment yet. A great shampoo that you will have to ask your hairdresser about is Nioxin - it is a growth stimulater system that contains a shampoo, conditioner and scalp treatment that will make sure the poor are not clogged. It is a very cool antiseptic menthol feel and the scalp treatment you can actually feel the heat increasing circulation to these cells in your scalp. And that is what you want. When hair falls out, the cell producing the follicle may just become inactive for awhile and this product will try and "wake up" that cell. And it has been quite successful without having to add on another med. Like I said this is natural. I don't know the state of your hair at this state, let your hairdresser check it out. If the hair is still feeling like barbie doll hair on the ends, I would not even risk perming it. If your hair has started to feel like "normal" hair again - she must make that decision. Hair that is not healthy because of our health, will never ever look healthy after a perm, if it takes at all. Color is a different story. For instance, I don't mind touching my scalp up to cover my grey, since that is regrowth, but I would not overlap onto my previous colored hair. I hope this helps you. I am sure your hairdresser knows your hair very well, and with you on treatment your hair may be feeling better and thru your consultation, she will be able to advise you. Good luck, Re: combat boots. Hi, , Okay... I am 57, Hypothyroid/Hashi's, the thinning hair problem before starting Armour is not completely gone. My hair still appears thin, the dryness has improved somewhat, but I also keep it pretty short now. I am not "prematurely gray", I am going platinum! Yikes! hair color change (losing pigment) can be related to Hypothyroidism. Of the commercially available products that will not clog the pores on my scalp, which ones would be good ones to try? My hair tends to lie "flat" and straight if washed and dried without using something for "body". What do you think? BTW, I see my hairdresser on Tuesday and would like to let her know about your suggestions. I do not color my hair, but have in the past with disastrous results -- scalp burned and hair turned to straw even when no bleaching is done. Ugh! Would love to get a perm to help things out here, but I get burns from those, too. Any ideas for me to try? DianneAt 12:11 PM 1/10/04 -0600, you wrote: Gang - I am hairdresser/colorist going thru thyroid stuff - my hair has come out big time. If you have any specific hair related question I will be happy to assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hi, Thanks! I last saw my hairdresser in early December. We have both been away from home for awhile. My hair is now longer than I want it to be, so I made my appointment for this week. At our last appointment, she said that my hair was looking much better -- the dryness on the ends was only " slight " and has been getting progressively better. I attribute that both to her management and to my own maintenance. I like my hair to look nice, but I do not scrub the life out of it either. Truth be told, I like my platinum hair! It isn't all that color (yet?), but it started like a tiara at the front of my head and is gradually moving back. The rest is a combination of my original deep brown and a kind of blondish to platinum -- almost as if I had highlighted it. People actually ask me who does my hair color! I tell them that God did it! LOL! , my hairdresser, said that she would get me a product to help with the hair re-growth and after checking my note from her, it is the same product that you mentioned. I will ask her to order it for me this week. The idea of a perm was just kind of a whim. Considering how styles my hair, I really do not *need* one. Perhaps I am getting lazy? Could be... The products that I do use on my hair are all " light " , meaning that they do not get sticky on my scalp or " strip " the hair. I leave that " deep cleaning " to . My scalp is looking really good now, but and I have been working on this since 1999. Thanks for the info! I have printed it out and will take it with me to my next appointment. will be glad to hear that her opinion of the Nioxin product is seconded by another professional. Warm regards, Dianne At 10:09 AM 1/11/04 -0600, you wrote: For years in the salon I have met people with thyroid conditions and people that have gone thru chemo and have new hair growing in. This has all started happening to me in the last 6 mos. So having seen it on my hair myself, thyroid hair is different. When I felt it on my clients, especially home color clients I always felt like the fell they had on their ends, like being coated, was a result of home color use. Repeated overlapping of color. But, now going thru this, I know this may not be the case. Mine being short was very coated. It felt like Barbie doll hair. What was left of it. Did not seem like any gel, volumizer, paste or hairspray helped it. I cut it shorter as I stated. The shampoos I once used, still left it feeling dry. So I switched to more moisturizing ones. I am not on treatment yet. A great shampoo that you will have to ask your hairdresser about is Nioxin - it is a growth stimulater system that contains a shampoo, conditioner and scalp treatment that will make sure the poor are not clogged. It is a very cool antiseptic menthol feel and the scalp treatment you can actually feel the heat increasing circulation to these cells in your scalp. And that is what you want. When hair falls out, the cell producing the follicle may just become inactive for awhile and this product will try and " wake up " that cell. And it has been quite successful without having to add on another med. Like I said this is natural. I don't know the state of your hair at this state, let your hairdresser check it out. If the hair is still feeling like barbie doll hair on the ends, I would not even risk perming it. If your hair has started to feel like " normal " hair again - she must make that decision. Hair that is not healthy because of our health, will never ever look healthy after a perm, if it takes at all. Color is a different story. For instance, I don't mind touching my scalp up to cover my grey, since that is regrowth, but I would not overlap onto my previous colored hair. I hope this helps you. I am sure your hairdresser knows your hair very well, and with you on treatment your hair may be feeling better and thru your consultation, she will be able to advise you. Good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Yep, autoimmune diseases do make us age prematurely. I started going gray at 14, have been coloring ever since. My husband is older than I and he has 3 gray hairs, I am about 30%-40% gray already. Jan > Everyone knows about mine, as I know about theirs because it's just having fun to me! Why try to fool anyone? I think people get more amused if we're self conscious about it. I think I look like I've aged more over the last two yrs, than the last 20! It's the aging disease---thyroid. > > > Tx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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