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Patty, I agree. I know when I went to visit the Rheumatologist (who

testified on behalf of women with implants at the Dow hearings), she

said that many of her patients were previously very athletic, taking

good care of their health, and after implants they became quite

ill. I have always taken very good care of myself, exercising,

eating right, but my body just went crazy with implants.

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when the implant can help save a life or a function. . . It would be

great if they could test her for sensitivity to any materials

used . . . but I doubt they would. Chances are she will do well with

the shunt.

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> The main thing is to be aware of what problems may occur . . .

and to maintain excellent health practices to keep one's body as

healthy as possible.

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> It appears that the women who have maintained life-long good

health practices tolerate implants longer than those who don't.

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What do you mean by crazy Sis?auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: Patty, I agree. I know when I went to visit the Rheumatologist (who testified on behalf of women with implants at the Dow hearings), she said that many of her patients were previously very athletic, taking good care of their health, and after implants they became quite ill. I have always taken very good care of myself, exercising, eating right, but my body just went crazy with implants.Sis> ,> > Personally, I don't have a problem with other kinds of implants when the implant can help save a life or a function. . . It would be great if they could test her for sensitivity to any materials used . . . but I doubt they would. Chances are she will do well with the shunt.> > The main thing is to be aware of what problems may occur . . . and to maintain excellent health practices to keep one's body as healthy as possible.> > It appears that the women who have maintained life-long good health practices tolerate implants longer than those who don't.> > Rogene> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and

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Good point Patty.Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Ah, that last statement didn't work for me Rogene! I have to say, I've seen lots of women on our group who were active in sports, fitness, healthy eating and healthy lifestyles and still got sick very quickly. I don't think we can make a statement that maintaining lifelong health practices allows us to tolerate implants longer. And in fact, I've known of women who abuse their bodies mercilessly and still have implants without the

devastating health consequences that some of us have faced. On the contrary, I think a healthy immune system may be one that attacks implants much quicker...hard to say. As I just posted, I don't think there is any rhyme or reason with which to estimate when women might become ill. It is just too unpredicatable. It's like playing Russian Roulette. PattyRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: , Personally, I don't have a problem with other kinds of implants when the implant can help save a life or a function. . . It would be great if they could test her for sensitivity to any materials used . . . but I doubt they would. Chances are she will do well with the shunt. The

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Women who develop auto immune issues don't do so due to poor health

practices. Some women have weaker immune systems than others. If genetic

testing was done on all women who react to implants, I bet you'd find a lot

of your problem there.

Kenda

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Yes, some very healthy women get sick very

quickly. They seem to have an allergic reaction

or a bodily rejection of their implants in short

order. I do think the state of health may have

good consequences for a quicker recovery in some

cases once implants are removed.

Lynda

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>Ah, that last statement didn't work for me Rogene!

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>I have to say, I've seen lots of women on our

>group who were active in sports, fitness,

>healthy eating and healthy lifestyles and still

>got sick very quickly. I don't think we can

>make a statement that maintaining lifelong

>health practices allows us to tolerate implants

>longer. And in fact, I've known of women who

>abuse their bodies mercilessly and still have

>implants without the devastating health

>consequences that some of us have faced.

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>On the contrary, I think a healthy immune system

>may be one that attacks implants much quicker...hard to say.

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>As I just posted, I don't think there is any

>rhyme or reason with which to estimate when

>women might become ill. It is just too

>unpredicatable. It's like playing Russian Roulette.

>Patty

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>Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

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>Personally, I don't have a problem with other

>kinds of implants when the implant can help save

>a life or a function. . . It would be great if

>they could test her for sensitivity to any

>materials used . . . but I doubt they would.

>Chances are she will do well with the shunt.

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>The main thing is to be aware of what problems

>may occur . . . and to maintain excellent

>health practices to keep one's body as healthy as possible.

>

>It appears that the women who have maintained

>life-long good health practices tolerate implants longer than those who don't.

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>Rogene

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Within a week of getting implants, my digestive system was giving me

problems, then after two weeks, my lymph nodes swelled up. After a

month, my joints swelled up, I had strange pains in my feet, spasms

in my legs, I suddenly started losing alot of weight (and after

explant I gained it all back plus 5, and now I can't lose it, so I'm

still not back to normal). After a few months, my fingers and toes

went numb, and it felt like someone was driving nails under my

fingernails and toes. I had bone pain, brain fog, headaches every

day, and my blood pressure skyrocketed. This was about all I could

stand and after six months of living like that, I had the implants

removed by Dr. Feng. Results I great, I look almost like I did

before, but I'm still working on getting better. I don't regret

having the explant for one minute, nor do I question whether the

implants made me sick, because I know they did - unfortunately it's

going to take me a long time to get my health back. Hopefully in

time I'll get better, but at least I know that they aren't inside my

body still, making things worse.

Sis

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> > Personally, I don't have a problem with other kinds of implants

> when the implant can help save a life or a function. . . It would

be

> great if they could test her for sensitivity to any materials

> used . . . but I doubt they would. Chances are she will do well

with

> the shunt.

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> > The main thing is to be aware of what problems may occur . . .

> and to maintain excellent health practices to keep one's body as

> healthy as possible.

> >

> > It appears that the women who have maintained life-long good

> health practices tolerate implants longer than those who don't.

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I said that based on long conversations I've had with Ilena . . . Granted, women can get sick from the outset . . . but she noticed that, of those who do tolerate them long-term, they usually are very health-minded. There are so many factors at work, it's really difficult to make a blanket statement. If only they would study the women who get sick, rather than write them off as nutz or sluts! . . . (For you newbies, there was one "study" that aluded to implanted women as nutz and sluts!) Rogene Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: Women who develop auto immune issues don't do so due to poor healthpractices. Some women have weaker immune systems than others. If genetictesting was done on all women who react to implants, I bet you'd find a lotof your problem there.Kenda> It appears that the women who have maintained life-long good health> practices tolerate implants longer than those who don't.> > Rogene> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+> countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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That is so offending for anyone with implants. If you get sick from them you are nutz and if you don't are you a slut? Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: I said that based on long conversations I've had with Ilena . . . Granted, women can get sick from the outset . . . but she noticed that, of those who do tolerate them long-term, they usually are very health-minded. There are so many factors at work, it's really difficult to make a blanket statement.

If only they would study the women who get sick, rather than write them off as nutz or sluts! . . . (For you newbies, there was one "study" that aluded to implanted women as nutz and sluts!) Rogene Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: Women who develop auto immune issues don't do so due to poor healthpractices. Some women have weaker immune systems than others. If genetictesting was done on all women who react to implants, I bet you'd find a lotof your problem there.Kenda> It appears that the women who have maintained life-long good health> practices tolerate implants longer than those who don't.> > Rogene> > > > > > > --------------------------------->

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