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Since there is no way to know for certain whether the mother's milk is safe,

I think she she wean the baby ASAP. Wouldn't it be prudent for all

implanted women not to breastfeed at all because of potential problems?

Kenda

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> From: Zuckerman <dz@...>

> Rogene S <saxony01@...>

> Cc: Lana <lanadearest@...>

> Sent: Monday, January 1, 2007 5:06:01 PM

> Subject: Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm breastfeeding my 8 mo.

> old and need information

>

>

> I'm not a doctor and I don't have enough information about this woman and baby

> to know what to advise. How old are her implants? What are her symptoms?

> You haven't provided any of the basic information (or if you did, it wasn't

> attached).

>

> However, if the mother is having symptoms, I am concerned about her conitnuing

> to breastfeed since there could potentially be bacteria or something else that

> is causing her symptoms and that could get into the breast milk.

>

> Has the breastmilk been tested for any possible problems? That would be a

> first step but might be difficult to find the right person to do the testing

> in a timely manner.

>

> Also, since the mother has already breastfed for 8 months, one option would be

> to stop breastfeeding. Although I think the American Academy of Pediatrics

> prefers that women breastfeed for a year, most (if not all) the data on the

> benefits of breastfeeding is based on 6 months of breastfeeding. So, there is

> no reason to think that stopping would cause harm, whereas continuing could

> potentially cause harm if the mom's symptoms seem related to the implants.

> And if the mom is allergic to something she is exposed to (whether implants or

> something else), the child could be too.

>

>

>

> Zuckerman, Ph.D.

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> Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm breastfeeding my 8

>>> mo. old and need information

>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)

>>>

>>> Welcome ,

>>>

>>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you do need to

>>> know what to look for.

>>>

>>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have stomach

>> distress

>>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.

>>>

>>> I see you've found . They can help you make your

>> decision.

>>>

>>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that organisms can

>> start

>>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule that has grown

>>> around your implant.

>>>

>>> Shari learned that she had 22 different organisms growing there. She

>>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's picture is in the

>>> archives under Photos.

>>>

>>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time typing. . .

>>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new names to see what

>>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who post, and a

>>> considerable number of articles in the Files section.

>>>

>>> Hugs and prayers,

>>>

>>> Rogene

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I had intended to forward 'z message to siliconekids . . .

One would think that women with implants would be advised not to nurse - In fact, it's just the opposite!

Crazy!!!! I wonder how many children will suffer all their lives as a result?

Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm breastfeeding my 8>>> mo. old and need information>>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)>>> >>> Welcome ,>>> >>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you do need to>>> know what to look for.>>> >>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have stomach>> distress>>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.>>> >>> I see you've found . They can help you make your>> decision.>>>

>>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that organisms can>> start>>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule that has grown>>> around your implant.>>> >>> Shari learned that she had 22 different organisms growing there. She>>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's picture is in the>>> archives under Photos.>>> >>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time typing. . .>>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new names to see what>>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who post, and a>>> considerable number of articles in the Files section.>>> >>> Hugs and prayers,>>> >>> Rogene>> >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

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Rogene,

I too still feel guilty for breast feeding both of my children with

my supposed safe implants, both of my children had numerous problems,

sleep apnea, numerous sinus infestions, digestion problems, muscle

pains,my 17 still has a sinus infection that they have never been

ever to get rid of. The one good thing was I couldn't produce much

milk. Everyone laughed because I have large breasts that I couldn't

produce milk. Now I know it was God protecting them. They did get

some though. With My 9 year old I actually bought a pump and tried to

get more to come out, that is when I was diagnosed with fibro 2

months after she was born, after trying for a couple of weeks the

milk was gone. I always wondered if that pump caused the weakness in

my 20 year old implants. Anyway she would stop breathing in her

sleep. She had surgery when she was 2. I still feel guilty but have

no way to prove anything.

Terri P

>

> I had intended to forward 'z message to siliconekids . . .

>

> One would think that women with implants would be advised not to

nurse - In fact, it's just the opposite!

>

> Crazy!!!! I wonder how many children will suffer all their lives as

a result?

>

> Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm

breastfeeding my 8

> >>> mo. old and need information

> >>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)

> >>>

> >>> Welcome ,

> >>>

> >>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you do

need to

> >>> know what to look for.

> >>>

> >>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have stomach

> >> distress

> >>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.

> >>>

> >>> I see you've found . They can help you make your

> >> decision.

> >>>

> >>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that organisms

can

> >> start

> >>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule that

has grown

> >>> around your implant.

> >>>

> >>> Shari learned that she had 22 different organisms growing

there. She

> >>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's picture is

in the

> >>> archives under Photos.

> >>>

> >>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time

typing. . .

> >>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new names

to see what

> >>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who

post, and a

> >>> considerable number of articles in the Files section.

> >>>

> >>> Hugs and prayers,

> >>>

> >>> Rogene

> >>

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There is no reason for you to feel guilty! . . . The ones who ought to are too busy counting their money to care how many children are suffering!

All we can do is to educate women so they won't get implants - especially before having children. - And if their children are already sick, try to help them with information so their children will get better.

Rgearding that sinus infection - It's possible that he would get better if it was treated as a fungal problem. Some of our women have.

Rogene

Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm breastfeeding my 8>

>>> mo. old and need information> >>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)> >>> > >>> Welcome ,> >>> > >>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you do need to> >>> know what to look for.> >>> > >>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have stomach> >> distress> >>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.> >>> > >>> I see you've found . They can help you make your> >> decision.> >>> > >>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that organisms can> >> start> >>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule that has grown> >>> around your implant.> >>> > >>> Shari

learned that she had 22 different organisms growing there. She> >>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's picture is in the> >>> archives under Photos.> >>> > >>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time typing. . .> >>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new names to see what> >>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who post, and a> >>> considerable number of articles in the Files section.> >>> > >>> Hugs and prayers,> >>> > >>> Rogene> >> > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> >> Fixing up the home? Live Search can help> >> http://imagine- windowslive. com/search/

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-Rogene,

Thank you for the info. I have never even thought it could be fungul.

Thank you soooo much. How do I find out what to try for him, Our

regular Dr, doesn't really do any natural stuff, and my 17 yr old

hates taking any medicine. I get a little confused on all the info

can you remind me on what is for fungul stuff? Thank you again you

are an angel,

Terri P

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> There is no reason for you to feel guilty! . . . The ones who ought

to are too busy counting their money to care how many children are

suffering!

>

> All we can do is to educate women so they won't get implants -

especially before having children. - And if their children are

already sick, try to help them with information so their children

will get better.

>

> Rgearding that sinus infection - It's possible that he would get

better if it was treated as a fungal problem. Some of our women have.

>

> Rogene

>

>

> Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm

> breastfeeding my 8

> > >>> mo. old and need information

> > >>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)

> > >>>

> > >>> Welcome ,

> > >>>

> > >>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you do

> need to

> > >>> know what to look for.

> > >>>

> > >>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have stomach

> > >> distress

> > >>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.

> > >>>

> > >>> I see you've found . They can help you make your

> > >> decision.

> > >>>

> > >>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that organisms

> can

> > >> start

> > >>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule

that

> has grown

> > >>> around your implant.

> > >>>

> > >>> Shari learned that she had 22 different organisms growing

> there. She

> > >>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's picture

is

> in the

> > >>> archives under Photos.

> > >>>

> > >>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time

> typing. . .

> > >>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new names

> to see what

> > >>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who

> post, and a

> > >>> considerable number of articles in the Files section.

> > >>>

> > >>> Hugs and prayers,

> > >>>

> > >>> Rogene

> > >>

> > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

_

> > >> Fixing up the home? Live Search can help

> > >> http://imagine- windowslive. com/search/ kits/default. aspx?

kit=

> improve & locale= en

> > >> -US & source=hmemailt aglinenov06 & FORM=WLMTAG

> > >>

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on

Messenger.

> > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MSN/go/ msnnkwme00800000 01msn/direct/

01/?

> href= http://imagi

> > > ne-windowslive. com/minisites/ santabot/ default.aspx?

locale=en-

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> > >

> > >

> > >

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Rogene,

I know I had sinus so bad it was awful. I do swear by that one raw garlic clove a day. She may have to trick a 17 year old. I sneak and put it in so much stuff and my family don't even know it. LOL Don't Tell them. Knock on wood I have not had sinus infection since getting them implants out. God Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donna

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Terri, please forgive yourself. You didn't know the truth back

then. You wouldn't have done anything to harm your children

knowingly.

Love 'n Blessings,

Sunny :) xo

> >

> > I had intended to forward 'z message to siliconekids . . .

> >

> > One would think that women with implants would be advised not to

> nurse - In fact, it's just the opposite!

> >

> > Crazy!!!! I wonder how many children will suffer all their lives

as

> a result?

> >

> > Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm

> breastfeeding my 8

> > >>> mo. old and need information

> > >>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)

> > >>>

> > >>> Welcome ,

> > >>>

> > >>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you do

> need to

> > >>> know what to look for.

> > >>>

> > >>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have stomach

> > >> distress

> > >>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.

> > >>>

> > >>> I see you've found . They can help you make your

> > >> decision.

> > >>>

> > >>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that organisms

> can

> > >> start

> > >>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule

that

> has grown

> > >>> around your implant.

> > >>>

> > >>> Shari learned that she had 22 different organisms growing

> there. She

> > >>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's picture

is

> in the

> > >>> archives under Photos.

> > >>>

> > >>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time

> typing. . .

> > >>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new names

> to see what

> > >>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who

> post, and a

> > >>> considerable number of articles in the Files section.

> > >>>

> > >>> Hugs and prayers,

> > >>>

> > >>> Rogene

> > >>

> > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

_

> > >> Fixing up the home? Live Search can help

> > >> http://imagine- windowslive. com/search/ kits/default. aspx?

kit=

> improve & locale= en

> > >> -US & source=hmemailt aglinenov06 & FORM=WLMTAG

> > >>

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on

Messenger.

> > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MSN/go/ msnnkwme00800000 01msn/direct/

01/?

> href= http://imagi

> > > ne-windowslive. com/minisites/ santabot/ default.aspx?

locale=en-

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> > >

> > >

> > >

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Terri,

There are several good, natural supplements that you can use to fight fungal infections. They are:

raw garlic

grapefruit seed extract

oregano oil

tea tree oil

caprylic acid

For a fungal sinus infection, you might want to try getting your children to use a neti pot.

It may sound a little strange to them, but I think it would work wonders. Look at this link for more information on it.

http://www.healthegoods.com/content/netipot_ceramic.htm

Let me know if you try it and it helps!

Patty

Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm > breastfeeding my 8> > >>> mo. old and need information> > >>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)> > >>> > > >>> Welcome ,> > >>> > > >>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you do > need to> > >>> know what to look for.> > >>> > > >>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have stomach> > >> distress> > >>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.> > >>> > > >>> I see you've found . They can help you make your> > >> decision.> >

>>> > > >>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that organisms > can> > >> start> > >>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule that > has grown> > >>> around your implant.> > >>> > > >>> Shari learned that she had 22 different organisms growing > there. She> > >>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's picture is > in the> > >>> archives under Photos.> > >>> > > >>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time > typing. . .> > >>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new names > to see what> > >>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who > post, and a> > >>> considerable number

of articles in the Files section.> > >>> > > >>> Hugs and prayers,> > >>> > > >>> Rogene> > >> > > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > >> Fixing up the home? Live Search can help> > >> http://imagine- windowslive. com/search/ kits/default. aspx?kit= > improve & locale= en> > >> -US & source=hmemailt aglinenov06 & FORM=WLMTAG> > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on Messenger.> > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MSN/go/ msnnkwme00800000 01msn/direct/ 01/?> href= http://imagi> > > ne-windowslive. com/minisites/ santabot/ default.aspx? locale=en- > us> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: > 12/31/2006> >>

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-Patty,

Thanks, I will give those a try, I haven't done the garlic, my

stomach is such a mess all the time.

Terri P

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<glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>

> Terri,

> There are several good, natural supplements that you can use to

fight fungal infections. They are:

>

> raw garlic

> grapefruit seed extract

> oregano oil

> tea tree oil

> caprylic acid

>

> For a fungal sinus infection, you might want to try getting your

children to use a neti pot.

> It may sound a little strange to them, but I think it would work

wonders. Look at this link for more information on it.

>

> http://www.healthegoods.com/content/netipot_ceramic.htm

>

> Let me know if you try it and it helps!

> Patty

>

>

> Re: [siliconeKids] Hi I'm brand new here. I'm

> > breastfeeding my 8

> > > >>> mo. old and need information

> > > >>> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:09 -0800 (PST)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Welcome ,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> First, let me tell you everything may be fine. . . but you

do

> > need to

> > > >>> know what to look for.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> If your baby is spitting up a lot . . . seems to have

stomach

> > > >> distress

> > > >>> or has unexplained rashes, I'd wean her asap.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I see you've found . They can help you make

your

> > > >> decision.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> What we get concerned about saline implants is that

organisms

> > can

> > > >> start

> > > >>> growing in the implant, or between the scar tissue capsule

> that

> > has grown

> > > >>> around your implant.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Shari learned that she had 22 different organisms growing

> > there. She

> > > >>> was, and continues to be very sick. Her son, Logan's

picture

> is

> > in the

> > > >>> archives under Photos.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I'm recovering from a broken arm and am having a hard time

> > typing. . .

> > > >>> Please read through our archives - concentrating on new

names

> > to see what

> > > >>> the kids are experiencing. There are a handful of women who

> > post, and a

> > > >>> considerable number of articles in the Files section.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Hugs and prayers,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Rogene

> > > >>

> > > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________

_________

> _

> > > >> Fixing up the home? Live Search can help

> > > >> http://imagine- windowslive. com/search/ kits/default. aspx?

> kit=

> > improve & locale= en

> > > >> -US & source=hmemailt aglinenov06 & FORM=WLMTAG

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________

_________ _

> > > > Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on

> Messenger.

> > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MSN/go/ msnnkwme00800000 01msn/direct/

> 01/?

> > href= http://imagi

> > > > ne-windowslive. com/minisites/ santabot/ default.aspx?

> locale=en-

> > us

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release

Date:

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