Re: experimental method to estimate course of MS ?

January 1, 2007

hello, and happy new year !! my daughter has m.s.. she has had optic neuritis

several times. She has also had a number of other problems. I don't think {and

this is just my thinking, and experience with her } that there is any " good

m.s. " And the degree of m.s. is based on where and what nerve is being effected

..

Sharon T.

nimaoy wrote:

Hello friends, i want to know is there any experimental methos to

estimate course of MS ?

foe example i hear that when MS begin with optic neuritis, it is

probably good MS and not disability MS. is it true? does anybody have

experience about this matter and course of MS?

thank you

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January 1, 2007

NO matter what caused you particular type of MS, we all have the ability

to stop it course and also reverse it. It takes time, patience, money,

and lots of research to figure out what will work for a particular

individual. We are all experiemental methods some further along in the

experiement and some just starting. We have to chose whether we will

experiment with safe alternatives to drugs or with the drugs which most

of know won't help the underlying causes of our symptoms. Happy New

Year!

nimaoy wrote:

>Hello friends, i want to know is there any experimental methos to

>estimate course of MS ?

>

>foe example i hear that when MS begin with optic neuritis, it is

>probably good MS and not disability MS. is it true? does anybody have

>experience about this matter and course of MS?

>

>thank you

>

January 2, 2007

> They used to say the course could be determined during the first 5 years.

yes, that is right, I heard the same thing.

And I heard that when first relaps it was paresis it doesn't prognosis well

It means that the MS will be have a hard course.

>Women are usually DX in their mid-thirties to late thirties. The hormones

>start changing again in late forties. I think this is the time to use

>bio-identical hormones so >as to not become SPMS if you are RRMS or

>whatever the case maybe.

I was dx when I was nineteen. So, I start to thinking in conection with

which hormones did it was conection?

love Beata

January 2, 2007

Interesting . . . I started with optic neuritis two years ago, and I

found alpha lipoic acid helpful. Could be a coincidence, but then

again, maybe there could be a connection.

(I also found DHEA helpful.)

> Also, the type of ms which starts out as optic neuritis from what

I've read depicts a blood brain barrier type of scenario. Many times

headaches are a part of this. Things that increase the permeability

of the barrier such as grapeseed extract and alpha lipoic acid can be

instrumental in treating this type ms. It is also important to keep

the environment healthy so you are not breathing any type of toxins

and also having a delayed ELISA test done to determine food

allergies. Calcium orotate is very good for the eyes and must be from

Germany. (a product from the late Dr. Hans Neiper) brilliant man who

changed my life.

January 3, 2007

Hi Madeline!

-----Original Message-----

From: mscured [mailto:mscured ] On Behalf

Of Madeline Kimmich

Does anyone have any recommendations for getting more sleep? For years

I

only slept 4 to 5 hours a night and seemed to be fine. However, given

the

SPMS I now have I think it was harmful. I had been sleeping 7 to 8

hours a

night for the last few months but I know have additional personal stress

and

I am back to 4 to 5 hours a night. This is causing harm. I have tried

Hyland's Nerve Tonic but to no avail. Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Madeline

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Lack of sleep is a major factor with many diseases. Unfortunately it is

a symptom as well as a precursor which causes a downward cycle of cause

and effect. I have found magnesium (250 to 500mg) taken before bedtime

helps with muscle soreness which interrupts deep sleep.

Sometimes it helps to review the basics to see if you are doing

something inadvertently that is affecting your sleep. Here is a webpage

from the Better sleeping council:

http://www.bettersleep.org/OnBetterSleep/NSF_BSC_tips.asp

Tom Nesler

January 3, 2007

I know Magesium helps be sleep better. IF stress is getting to you then

feed you endocrine system more thats what helps you cope with stress. I

use a combo of amino acids and Wild Yam Root, also extra powdered

greens.

Madeline Kimmich wrote:

>Does anyone have any recommendations for getting more sleep? For years I

>only slept 4 to 5 hours a night and seemed to be fine. However, given the

>SPMS I now have I think it was harmful. I had been sleeping 7 to 8 hours a

>night for the last few months but I know have additional personal stress and

>I am back to 4 to 5 hours a night. This is causing harm. I have tried

>Hyland's Nerve Tonic but to no avail. Any recommendations?

>

January 3, 2007

What combo of amino acids do you use to combat stress? Stress causes an

immediate pressure in my neck and the back of the head which in turn makes