Guest guest Posted July 19, 1999 Report Share Posted July 19, 1999 > Do they test your child's hearing the same as would be done > if you took your child to a hospital like i do? And if so, > then it is at no cost to you right? That's the way it works at my son's school, but then he's in an private oral school so I don't know how it works at a public school. Testing is done once a year for baseline, and then any other time it's requested by his teacher, TOD, therapist, or myself. >In order to get remibursed, > I have to purchase the claim forms which are sold by case of > 500 and that would be fine if Devon needed av therapy for the > next 10 years! Have you tried going to a local Dr's or audiologist's office and asking if you can purchase some of their forms? If you there is a local doctor, audiolgist (or just about anyone who files insurance claims) whome you already have an extablished relationship with, you may be able to get a few copies of the forms from them. Can't hurt to try. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 1999 Report Share Posted July 19, 1999 >my school district does not have an audiologist on staff >what they do is have an aud. " on call " for consultation. >I was wondering from those of you who have a school aud. >Do they test your child's hearing the same as would be done >if you took your child to a hospital like i do? And if so, >then it is at no cost to you right? Heidi, I addressed this issue in a rather lengthy article which is now published at Kay's website, " Who Pays for Audiograms in School? " You can get to it from: http://members.tripod.com/listenup/rights.htm#ieps I need to check to see if the rule numbers have changed with the issuing of the new federal regs implementing IDEA, and make some changes if they have, but all the info is still valid. In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, the '97 amendments *strengthens* the right to free, comprehensive audiology services through the schools. Which is not to be confused with getting free personal hearing aids. Tho there is strengthened support for an FM system for use at home, supplied through the schools. <sigh> I need to update that info, too. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Celeste, Wow thanks. I need to read Kay's site more often and intently. My daughter went without her FM system in Kindergarden the last half of they year because it wasn't " adaptable " to her particular hearing aids. And they just couldn't seem to get the right part. Of course no one told me about it until the last three weeks of school. And I only found out becaue the SLP wrote it on her progress report. With the ending comment. " We will continue to address this (getting it fixed) in the Fall. " NOT. Do it now people. Ah my list grows and grows for my next IEP's Thanks. Heidi I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 > > >My daughter went without her FM system in Kindergarden the last >half of they year because it wasn't " adaptable " to her particular >hearing aids. And they just couldn't seem to get the right part. >Of course no one told me about it until the last three weeks of >school. And I only found out becaue the SLP wrote it on her >progress report. With the ending comment. " We will continue >to address this (getting it fixed) in the Fall. " NOT. Do it now >people. Ah my list grows and grows for my next IEP's Thanks. If an FM system was in her IEP last year, you can file a complaint pursuant to IDEA that the FM was not provided, and ask for some kind of compensatory education. I believe under the new regs, parents have 6 months to file a complaint from the date of the last known violation, or the date on which they became aware of it. I'll have to check on the particulars, but I do remember that there was a significant change, placing time limitations on complaints. Prior to the '97 amendments, there was no time limit. On the up side, it was also specifically added that SEAs may award compensatory ed, so parents do not have to go to a hearing to get this any more. Consult your state rules for special ed or your state dept of education for instructions on how to do this. If the FM system was not in her last IEP, I suggest that you convene an IEPT meeting ASAP, and get it in there. [Easier said than done, given their dilatory action on issue.] Kay, do you think we should put some redacted complaints at your site, so parents can see how it is done? You can always put up that sample I sent, with 45 allegations, or just select a few allegations, or the complaint I filed for JJ - can't even remember which one I sent you. Those would boggle some folks' minds. If it would be easier, I could save it as an html document and send it to you. Let me know. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 It's a year. Just went through this with our SEA and they pointed this out to me but my stuff was all grandfathered Celeste wrote: > > If an FM system was in her IEP last year, you can file a complaint > pursuant to IDEA that the FM was not provided, and ask for some kind of > compensatory education. I believe under the new regs, parents have 6 > months to file a complaint from the date of the last known violation, > or the date on which they became aware of it. I'll have to check on > the particulars, but I do remember that there was a significant change, > placing time limitations on complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 If an FM system was in her IEP last year, you can file a complaint pursuant to IDEA that the FM was not provided, and ask for some kind of compensatory education. I believe under the new regs, parents have 6 months to file a complaint from the date of the last known violation, or the date on which they became aware of it. Hey Hey! Yes it was in her IEP. I'll do some checking tonight and get busy, busy. Thanks bunches. Heidi --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 > Wow thanks. I need to read Kay's site more often and intently. You can find all of Celeste's great stuff here: http://members.tripod.com/listenup/rights.htm#ieps Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 > Kay, do you think we should put some redacted complaints at your site, > so parents can see how it is done? I'd be more than happy to. > You can always put up that sample I > sent, with 45 allegations, or just select a few allegations, or the > complaint I filed for JJ - can't even remember which one I sent you. That's OK, neither am I? Is it one of the many I forwarded back to you? Which one would it be? (Is redacted what it's called when I remove the names? Sorry, my brain just isn't functioning today.) Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 >It's a year. Just went through this with our SEA and they pointed this out to >me but my stuff was all grandfathered Thanks, . Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 At 03:04 PM 7/20/99 -0400, Celeste wrote: > > > > >> >> >>My daughter went without her FM system in Kindergarden the last >>half of they year because it wasn't " adaptable " to her particular >>hearing aids. And they just couldn't seem to get the right part. >>Of course no one told me about it until the last three weeks of >>school. And I only found out becaue the SLP wrote it on her >>progress report. With the ending comment. " We will continue >>to address this (getting it fixed) in the Fall. " NOT. Do it now >>people. Ah my list grows and grows for my next IEP's Thanks. > >If an FM system was in her IEP last year, you can file a complaint >pursuant to IDEA that the FM was not provided, and ask for some kind of >compensatory education. I believe under the new regs, parents have 6 >months to file a complaint from the date of the last known violation, >or the date on which they became aware of it. I'll have to check on >the particulars, but I do remember that there was a significant change, >placing time limitations on complaints. Prior to the '97 amendments, >there was no time limit. On the up side, it was also specifically >added that SEAs may award compensatory ed, so parents do not have to go >to a hearing to get this any more. Consult your state rules for >special ed or your state dept of education for instructions on how to >do this. > >If the FM system was not in her last IEP, I suggest that you convene an >IEPT meeting ASAP, and get it in there. [Easier said than done, given >their dilatory action on issue.] All great advice, but watch what you are looking for and what is in the current IEP. You were referring to an FM hookup to her hearing aids, which I assume to be at least DAI cords or a wireless system such as the TMX or Microlink. However, what was written into the IEP? If it said FM system, did it specifically mention an FM that works with her hearing aids, or just FM system? If just the FM only, you could push the issue, and end up with an FM system with button molds, that doesn't use her hearing aids, because that's what you had in the IEP. The FM alone would most likely still be better than the hearing aids alone, but it may not be what you want. The point being, be very specific when writing specifics into an IEP. Chris << Christofer deHahn..................Manager, EDA Systems and Test >> << Quantum Corporation...........Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, USA >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 > > >> Kay, do you think we should put some redacted complaints at your site, >> so parents can see how it is done? > >I'd be more than happy to. Great, thank you. >> You can always put up that sample I >> sent, with 45 allegations, or just select a few allegations, or the >> complaint I filed for JJ - can't even remember which one I sent you. > >That's OK, neither am I? Is it one of the many I forwarded back to you? >Which one would it be? I don't know if it was in there or not. I found the 45 allegation complaint easily, in my word processing program. I changed some more stuff to make it even more unidentifiable, and only used 5 allegations. I'm attaching it as an html document. If you want it in another format, let me know. I will have to write up a foreword explaining that this complaint was filed in MI, so it uses both MI rule and IDEA regulation numbers. It was filed by me, an advocate, so it is not written from the perspective of a parent. Most parents would file a complaint themselves. I'll look for the OCR complaint, and work it over and send it to you, also with a foreword, as soon as I can. > (Is redacted what it's called when I remove the >names? Sorry, my brain just isn't functioning today.) Nothing wrong with your brain. The educrats and attorneys call it redacting when all personally identifying info is removed from the document. (Ususally when you get a redacted document from a public agency, they just ink out the info you are not supposed to get. I have replaced it with bogus names, etc.) However, if you look up the definition of " redact " in the dictionary, you will find that it means, " to prepare for editing. " Guess lawyers and educrats never know when they are finished. Thanks a million, Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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