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When making jello, do NOT I said do NOT, pour the boiling water over your

hand.

I am typing with one hand. The other one is in a bowl of ice water.

Oh one more thing. OUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCh

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{{{{{{{{{{{Sandi}}}}}}}}}}} ouchie.....take good care of that hand! (reminds

me of when my son was 2 and grabbed hold of the barrel of my HOT curling

iron...it was a trip to the emergency room and perscription ointment) PLEASE

seek medical attention if you're burned badly! My heart goes out to you!

Sherry

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I would like to give everyone some good advise that I JUST learned from

experience.

When making jello, do NOT I said do NOT, pour the boiling water over your

hand.

I am typing with one hand. The other one is in a bowl of ice water.

Oh one more thing. OUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCh

Alessandra (Sandi)

ICQ #2695225

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I can't take it out for more then about 20 seconds and it starts to burn

again.

Alessandra (Sandi)

ICQ #2695225

> Oh, ouch! I bet that really hurts, you may need to keep that

> hand in ice water for awhile.

>

> Jean

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For future reference - have your doctor write a prescription for Silvadene

Cream. Just a tiny bottle. Keep it in the kitchen. If you get burned,

slather it on the burn and KEEP it on the burn. Usually by next morning the

burn is almost gone. I picked up a pan handle that had been sitting above a

neighboring burner. My thumb and forfinger were blistering up wonderfully.

By morning they were only red and sore and next day almost gone. Saturday I

picked up a 350 degree pan handle. Again, by morning only one small

bllister was left and it didn't hurt. That stuff is old fashioned and

WONDERFUL

Janssen

Southern California

ilea.wj@...

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> I would like to give everyone some good advise that I JUST learned from

> experience.

>

> When making jello, do NOT I said do NOT, pour the boiling water over your

> hand.

>

> I am typing with one hand. The other one is in a bowl of ice water.

>

> Oh one more thing. OUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCh

>

> Alessandra (Sandi)

> ICQ #2695225

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Sandi that is quite common. I even went to bed one night with my hand in a

baggie inside a big baggie full of ice cubes setting on a chair next to the

bed. But eventually, if you can stand it, taking your hand out of the ice

will let the nerves deplete their " substance P " and the pain will diminish.

A pain killer would help also. I took Tylenol 3 last week when I burned

myself.

Janssen

Southern California

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> I can't take it out for more then about 20 seconds and it starts to burn

> again.

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> Alessandra (Sandi)

> ICQ #2695225

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> > Oh, ouch! I bet that really hurts, you may need to keep that

> > hand in ice water for awhile.

> >

> > Jean

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In a message dated 08/15/2000 6:21:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sandi0@... writes:

<< When making jello, do NOT I said do NOT, pour the boiling water over your

hand.

I am typing with one hand. The other one is in a bowl of ice water. >>

thanks for the hint, but i always type one-handed!!! ;) Deja

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In a message dated 8/15/00 8:14:06 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

res03wp3@... writes:

<< For future reference - have your doctor write a prescription for Silvadene

Cream. >>

I have two grandchildren with a rare genetic skin disorder and their skin

blisters and tears extremely easily. We call Silvadene our miracle medicine.

It definitely promotes fast healing.

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1- Monthly water retention ? Nope don't think so. I am beyond that thank God :}}

2- I have not done any non Atkins since the day I started the end of June. Have not lost a pound since July 1

3- No food allergies as far as I know

4- Drinking 3 - 4 24 oz bottles of water a day. Yesterday 3 1/2

Alessandra (Sandi)ICQ #2695225

Sandi,Glad that your hand is doing better, but it's too bad that you arenot having success on the turtle menu. A couple of questions, firstthe obvious: could it be monthly water retention? Second, if youare like some people, it can take a few days for the way you areeating to show up on the scale. Hopefully you will go down verysoon as a result of the turtle eating. But did you do any nonatkins eating right before starting the turtle menu that could havecaused your one pound gain? Do you know if you have a food allergyto anything on the turtle menu? Could it be a combination of anyof those factors?Oh yeah, are you drinking the water?Jean

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I am not on any meds and I have never been able to lose.

Sandi .... That is JUST NOT FAIR! :(Are you on any medications? A friend at work was complaining that shecouldn't lose any weight no matter HOW close she followed ANY diet.Another friend said that she'd gained weight while taking Zoloft... and thefirst gal was ALSO taking Zoloft. Then a 3rd friend said that she hadALSO gained weight taking Zoloft.The first gal asked her doctor to switch her meds & she IMMEDIATELY lost thefew pounds she wanted to lose while taking Prozac.??????Sally-----Original Message-----From: Sandi Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 9:17 PMTo: Atkins_Support_ListegroupsSubject: Re: Good AdviseI want to thank everyone for their concern for my hand last night. Itfeels a lot better today.Now for a report. I stayed on the turtle menu for 2 days and I gained apound. Something is definitely wrong with my body. Today I have hadabsolutely no desire to eat. And I didn't.All I ate the entire day is 1 ounce of Pumpkin seeds and sugar free jellowith some whipped cream. I am not hungry but I have catfish in the ovenfor my son so I will eat some.Alessandra (Sandi)ICQ #2695225

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Sandi,

Are you taking any pain medications for your hand? I've heard they can

cause a problem sometimes with this WOE. Also, that sort of trauma may have

shocked your system into hanging on to all the fat it can while it waits to

see if your going to try and hurt it some more. Don't worry. . . 2 days

into this is too soon to be able to give it a fair assessment.

Terry

It's going to happen for you.

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Sandi:

You're not going to like what I'm going to say to you. But I think it's

important that if you're going to try the turtle menus that you try them

from beginning to end. Even if you're not hungry and have an initial gain,

you should follow the menu. That lack of hunger sounds exactly like someone

who went into ketosis. You might have held onto a little pound or two right

at first because perhaps you're getting more fat into your diet than you

were previously and it caught your body off guard. Or perhaps burning your

hand made your body need extra fluid. At any rate, another thing you could

try (don't shoot me) is increasing your water intake. Even though

" theoretically " I should easily be able to get by with 64 oz. water

according to all the charts (because I'm at goal now) I start to put on

weight when I don't drink at least 100 oz. My body *really* likes water. I

just got used to it. I don't drink *anything* else but water on a daily

basis. Like once a month I will add one of the following a breve or a diet

soda or a cup of tea. Heh, drinking any of these items makes me thirsty!

*laugh*. I think that if you actually stuck to the plan for the whole two

weeks without straying from it (I know it's tough, but you have to work at

it) that you would probably see some results. Two days with a 1 pound gain

and then not sticking to it because you didn't get what you wanted is not

following the plan. Sometimes when you first start induction there is an

initial gain, but it will drop off again after a while.

I'm sorry to be so brutal, but no one else is so I'll be the you know what

today! :)

A.

> I want to thank everyone for their concern for my hand last night. It

> feels a lot better today.

>

> Now for a report. I stayed on the turtle menu for 2 days and I gained a

> pound. Something is definitely wrong with my body. Today I have had

> absolutely no desire to eat. And I didn't.

> All I ate the entire day is 1 ounce of Pumpkin seeds and sugar free jello

> with some whipped cream. I am not hungry but I have catfish in the oven

> for my son so I will eat some.

>

> Alessandra (Sandi)

> ICQ #2695225

>

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Well poop! : ) I tried.

Jean

1- Monthly water retention ? Nope don't think so. I am beyond that thank God :}}

2- I have not done any non Atkins since the day I started the end of June. Have not lost a pound since July 1

3- No food allergies as far as I know

4- Drinking 3 - 4 24 oz bottles of water a day. Yesterday 3 1/2

Alessandra (Sandi)ICQ #2695225

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You can sleep with a wet cloth and ice bag on top. It is important to

keep the burned part under cool running water for 10-15 minutes and then

continue with cool wet clothes or ice (barrier between ice and skin)

until the pain subsides. Remember to drink extra fluid as the burn

heals.

> Just had to put in my 2 cents! I burned my finger once and tried the " keeping

> it in water thing " but had to go to bed...finally took my finger out of the

> water and the pain just totally radiated up to my elbow (and only my finger

> tip was burned), I thought my whole hand was blistering, but I endured the

> pain and it subsided after a while, if you can tough it out, the pain *will*

> go away, and you really can't sleep with your hand in a glass of water!

> :)

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On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:08:18 +0000 Frenyea writes:

> Just had to put in my 2 cents! I burned my finger once and tried the

> " keeping it in water thing " but had to go to bed...finally took my

finger out

> of the water and the pain just totally radiated up to my elbow (and

only my

> finger tip was burned), I thought my whole hand was blistering, but I

> endured the pain and it subsided after a while, if you can tough it

out, the

> pain *will* go away, and you really can't sleep with your hand in a

glass of

> water!

You shouldn't sleep with your hand in water. I had a friend that burned

his hand one night, so he thought it would be a good idea to put it in

water and try to go to sleep. Not a good idea after all. What you've

heard about it is true...

Kind of like the guy who told be the best thing for a hangover was to

drink a big glass of milk. Sure enough, it did work...but he didn't tell

me about what happens in-between, however.

Huggy Bear

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On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:08:18 +0000 Frenyea writes:

> Just had to put in my 2 cents! I burned my finger once and tried the

> " keeping it in water thing " but had to go to bed...finally took my

finger out

> of the water and the pain just totally radiated up to my elbow (and

only my

> finger tip was burned), I thought my whole hand was blistering, but I

> endured the pain and it subsided after a while, if you can tough it

out, the

> pain *will* go away, and you really can't sleep with your hand in a

glass of

> water!

You shouldn't sleep with your hand in water. I had a friend that burned

his hand one night, so he thought it would be a good idea to put it in

water and try to go to sleep. Not a good idea after all. What you've

heard about it is true...

Kind of like the guy who told be the best thing for a hangover was to

drink a big glass of milk. Sure enough, it did work...but he didn't tell

me about what happens in-between, however.

Huggy Bear

" It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. " -

Koresh

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I will definitely get some. You need a prescription for it ? Thank you :}

Sounds like you have been doing a job on your hands also

Alessandra (Sandi)

ICQ #2695225

> For future reference - have your doctor write a prescription for Silvadene

> Cream. Just a tiny bottle. Keep it in the kitchen. If you get burned,

> slather it on the burn and KEEP it on the burn. Usually by next morning

the

> burn is almost gone. I picked up a pan handle that had been sitting above

a

> neighboring burner. My thumb and forfinger were blistering up

wonderfully.

> By morning they were only red and sore and next day almost gone. Saturday

I

> picked up a 350 degree pan handle. Again, by morning only one small

> bllister was left and it didn't hurt. That stuff is old fashioned and

> WONDERFUL

>

> Janssen

> Southern California

> ilea.wj@...

>

>

> Re: Good Advise

>

>

> >

> >

> > I would like to give everyone some good advise that I JUST learned from

> > experience.

> >

> > When making jello, do NOT I said do NOT, pour the boiling water over

your

> > hand.

> >

> > I am typing with one hand. The other one is in a bowl of ice water.

> >

> > Oh one more thing. OUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCh

> >

> > Alessandra (Sandi)

> > ICQ #2695225

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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UH OH I am in trouble. As far as the lack of hunger meaning that I went into ketosis, nope not there. I have not been in ketosis for about 3 weeks. :{{ I have gotten to a point that I very seldom drink a diet soda. Just water. And I am not getting more fat then I have been for the last 2 months. I have never left induction. I have been eating 20 or less carbs from the start but I just don't lose. But I am sticking to it. :}}

Alessandra (Sandi)ICQ #2695225

Sandi:You're not going to like what I'm going to say to you. But I think it'simportant that if you're going to try the turtle menus that you try themfrom beginning to end. Even if you're not hungry and have an initial gain,you should follow the menu. That lack of hunger sounds exactly like someonewho went into ketosis. You might have held onto a little pound or two rightat first because perhaps you're getting more fat into your diet than youwere previously and it caught your body off guard. Or perhaps burning yourhand made your body need extra fluid. At any rate, another thing you couldtry (don't shoot me) is increasing your water intake. Even though"theoretically" I should easily be able to get by with 64 oz. wateraccording to all the charts (because I'm at goal now) I start to put onweight when I don't drink at least 100 oz. My body *really* likes water. Ijust got used to it. I don't drink *anything* else but water on a dailybasis. Like once a month I will add one of the following a breve or a dietsoda or a cup of tea. Heh, drinking any of these items makes me thirsty!*laugh*. I think that if you actually stuck to the plan for the whole twoweeks without straying from it (I know it's tough, but you have to work atit) that you would probably see some results. Two days with a 1 pound gainand then not sticking to it because you didn't get what you wanted is notfollowing the plan. Sometimes when you first start induction there is aninitial gain, but it will drop off again after a while.I'm sorry to be so brutal, but no one else is so I'll be the you know whattoday! :) A. > I want to thank everyone for their concern for my hand last night. It> feels a lot better today.> > Now for a report. I stayed on the turtle menu for 2 days and I gained a> pound. Something is definitely wrong with my body. Today I have had> absolutely no desire to eat. And I didn't.> All I ate the entire day is 1 ounce of Pumpkin seeds and sugar free jello> with some whipped cream. I am not hungry but I have catfish in the oven> for my son so I will eat some.> > Alessandra (Sandi)> ICQ #2695225>

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I use netscape and have not been able to figure out how to block them.

Would love it if you could help me. Get tired of

unfreezing the computer.

LIsa

>

> You might want to block messages from those who ask for receipts. It

> startles me and I really dislike it in this day and age of strange goings-on

> with email programs. Messages from receipt-requesters now go directly to my

> deleted items folder when downloaded. I never see them.

>

> Elaine

>

> >

> > To whomever these e-mails are from. They demand a receipt and are

> > written in something my computer does not understand. They are blank

> > but freeze my computer....what should I do.

> >

>

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I use Outlook Express but feel certain you have an option probably under

mail rules which might be under Tools in your Netscape program. You would

be blocking the person who sends the email, not blocking return receipts per

se. I do believe that you may also have an option in Netscape to refuse all

receipts. That, too, is probably under Tools.

Good luck!

Elaine

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> I use netscape and have not been able to figure out how to block them.

> Would love it if you could help me. Get tired of

> unfreezing the computer.

> LIsa

>

>

> >

> > You might want to block messages from those who ask for receipts. It

> > startles me and I really dislike it in this day and age of strange

goings-on

> > with email programs. Messages from receipt-requesters now go directly

to my

> > deleted items folder when downloaded. I never see them.

> >

> > Elaine

> >

> > >

> > > To whomever these e-mails are from. They demand a receipt and are

> > > written in something my computer does not understand. They are blank

> > > but freeze my computer....what should I do.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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