Re: Bio yogurt.>bacteria counts, etc

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Sounds like a good product if you use dairy anyway. Dairy coats the

duodenum with mucous and prevents nutrient absorbtion so it's a bit

of a catch 22 situation. I found this (pasted in below)in my files

regarding the bacteria count issue. Hope it's not too salesey!

Sharon

InLiven and the truth about Bacteria Counts

Bacteria counts are mostly based upon sales hype and have nothing to

do with the qualities of the product. In order to help you

understand this I offer the following:

1. FALA labs (which is an Australian government lab) who does our

analysis, says that it is very hard to get an accurate count of

bacteria above 100 million.

2. Bacteria counts are done many ways. Bacteria grow in colonies

and what many companies do is to shake apart the colonies then do

the counts. Again this means nothing.

3. What most companies do not tell you is that the only thing that

counts is; are the bacteria active? In other words are they alive

and do they have the ability to reach the gut alive and start new

colonies. Many of the so called bacteria counts just count bacteria

both dead and alive that have been shook apart from their colonies.

4. Many advertisers selling bacteria in a capsule tell you that one

capsule is worth 100's of tubs of yogurt. What they do not tell you

is that it takes 48 hours for the body to break down the capsule and

by that time it has passed through the body and is in the ocean

somewhere.

Now let's talk about InLiven:

1. Our technical specifications call for a minimum of 10 million

colony forming units per gram. InLiven averages around 50 million

colony forming units per gram. These are active colony forming

units that reach the gut and re-colonize. Each colony can be made

of millions of bacteria. So if you do the math you can see that our

bacteria are not only alive but are abundant.

2. We grow all of our bacteria in our own labs. Most bacteria on

the market are bought from commercial growers and are boosted in

their count by processing in bio reactors. We culture and grow our

bacteria organically with no artificial boosting of counts. That is

why we have the world's only 'Certified Organic' bacteria.

3. All of our bacteria come from grains, veggies and fruits. Many

companies grow bacteria from other sources such as fecal matter.

All our grains, veggies and fruits come from Australia. This means

the bacteria we culture are the heartiest in the world. This is

because of the harsh dry conditions in Australia the bacteria have

to be really tough to survive.

4. InLiven contains 13 strains of bacteria along with their food

source. Our experience shows that if you provide the body with

these 13 strains they have the ability to create an environment

where the other 100's of sub-strains that are vital to the body can

exist and multiply. In addition it is vital that the foods the

bacteria like to eat accompany them. Otherwise a battle erupts

between the good bacteria as they compete for food. This can be

detrimental to the bacteria population. This lack of understanding

by most companies that promote bacteria products is one of the

principal reasons that most bacteria products do not work.

5. The 13 strains of bacteria in InLiven are the results of over 20

years of culturing. During these 20 years we have evolved the

bacteria through means of stress to resist many of the things that

kill them. No commercial company will take the time and expense to

do this. This process cost in excess of 2.5 million dollars.

6. The bacteria in InLiven are only half of the equation. In this

formula there are 26 Living Whole Foods. These living whole foods

have been pre-digested by the bacteria to make them 100% available

for the body. Since the body normally only digest foods with an

efficiency factor of 20% this means we have increased the bio-

availability of vital living nutrients by 500%. This process takes

three weeks.

I could spend another page telling of merits of InLiven but here is

the bottom line for all bacteria products. CAN YOU TAKE THE

FINISHED PRODUCT AND ON-FERMENT WITH IT? In other words is the

product capable of making yogurt or other fermentable products?

InLiven is active and alive and you can on-ferment with it.

Finally all the information in the world is conceptual. The only

way to turn it into true knowledge is through experience. The

results of the experience of InLiven speaks for itself. In fact I

just received a fax from One Group from . In it she

stated that her GP, family and every direction she turned could not

help her with her intestinal problems. She had resigned herself to

a life of misery. Then she found InLiven and with just two doses of

InLiven it fixed her problems. If you contact One Group they may

give you a copy of this.

In closing we adhere to the principals of Mother Nature. We know

that the only way to good health is through working with her by

using her wisdom in its natural form. We are not arrogant like most

companies that believe they can improve upon her.

To your good health,

Czerral

>

> Hi Guys,

>

> I have been eating progurt (http://www.progurt.com.au Since Nov

2005). It is good stuff and in my opinion the most potent pro-biotic

available anywhere. It is a pro-biotic yoghurt that you make by

yourself in UHT Milk. This way you know that it is fresh and made to

order.

>

> Where all the pro-biotics that many of you have listed in this

forum contain a few billion good bacteria per one/few

capsules/tablets, progurt contains a few trillion good bacteria per

100ml. Much more potent!!! And also contains 13~18 different strains

(I am not sure you will have to check with them) of the different

good bacteria.

>

> What I have found with progurt is that my vision, appetite,

energy, body strength, bowel, concentration, body functionality and

overall mood was greatly improved. I know this because during that

time I was not taking anything else except Vitamin C. It did not

however change my walking and I still need a cane to support me when

I walk.

>

> I recommend that those of you seeking a " Good " pro-biotic check

this one out, and look forward to your comments.

>

> Please note the above is merely my humble opinion, I don't expect

you to accept or agree with my point of view. Instead I hope that

one or more of you will challenge/question me based on your own

experices, then I can learn something from you or validate myself.

>

> I think the only issue that some of you may have (myself included)

is the Dairy element involved.

>

> Regards

>

> Raj