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Sue said: After coming a few weeks late, then giving me nothing but the occasional spotting for 2 weeks now, Auntie Flo decided to stay a little Saturday afternoon. The bloating was awful. Yesterday and again today, just a teensy spot again. ARGH! Come on and be *done* already! Either come for the full week or not, stop this constant hormonal upheaval! I was crying reading a medical magazine in the doctor's waiting room, for goodness' sake!

Cherilyn's reply: I don't really know very much about this, but my friend was having irregular cycles. She was bloating, hurting, and craving chocolate like mad. She would miss a cycle and then have on eon long one the next month. Also, she was bleeding VERY heavily. Her doc suggested that she try evening primrose oil. She said it worked wonders. It helped with the bummed out feelings, the excessive bleeding, the bloating, the cravings, the cramping, the irregularity, and the 'I-hate-feeling-this-way;-I-want-to-eat-all-of-Hershey,-PA-and-hide-under-the-covers' feeling.

Due to multiple pregnancies and nursing, I have only had one cycle in 3.5 years. (That would be the O N E when I became pg with my daughter!) But, I plan to try it if I have the same kind of cycles I had before. Hopefully, it will prevent my feeling anemic after the first week is over and I am STILL going! Maybe, it would help you get Auntie sorted out.

Cherilyn

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well now it's out of your system. after 3 days of soup I did micky d's for breakfast - it was horrible choices but I'm moving on and it's back to soup for dinner. That's great news about Ed and that your back is finally beginning to heal. I'm thinking I'll bike tonight while watching TV - that shouldn't cause to much of a coughing fit. I have to get back to working out - I know I feel much better when I do but 2 under 15 minute rides in 10 days isn't going to cut it! and if you're going to work out all twisted and knotted I can climb my big butt up on that stupid bike and not grumble.

“The greater the obstacle, the more glory in overcoming it.”

Baptiste Moliere

Good News, Bad News

Well, Ed was officially discharged from the care of the orthopedic oncologist today, who again said the "tumor" in the knee x-rays was probably something he's had forever, since there's been no change in 2 years. He's a very happy chappy, to say the least.

That was the good news. The bad is, the 2 of us have been eating all kinds of junk food all weekend, including apple/oat "breakfast bars" that I bought for Henry during the summer that he didn't like, MickeyD French fries, hot dogs, and loaves (yes, plural) of cheesy garlic bread and, of course, plenty of pasta and sauce to go with them. I even had (gasp) a Hershey bar on Saturday afternoon.

After coming a few weeks late, then giving me nothing but the occasional spotting for 2 weeks now, Auntie Flo decided to stay a little Saturday afternoon. The bloating was awful. Yesterday and again today, just a teensy spot again. ARGH! Come on and be *done* already! Either come for the full week or not, stop this constant hormonal upheaval! I was crying reading a medical magazine in the doctor's waiting room, for goodness' sake!

I need more chocolate!! At least all I have in the house right now is some sugar free Swiss Miss hot chocolate mix and sugar free Hershey's chocolate syrup, so I can't do any more damage, but I *can* do something as stupid as drink the syrup right out of the bottle, if I want.

And this darn knee pain of my own kept me awake half the night. Every time I tried to turn the pain shot right through the knee. Then around 2 am the leg cramps started in. I laughed when I read 's MOTD this morning. How did he *know*?!?! When I get those cramps, the big pain lasts for at least half hour, but the muscle stays sore for hours afterwards, complete with a "pins & needle" feeling in the entire limb. My podiatrist gave me quinine pills a few years ago hoping it would help, but all they did was give me an irregular heart beat so I had to stop. I wasn't able to walk without looking like a stroke victim until around 10 am. At least the knee feels a little better this afternoon. Too bad it's pouring rain out there and it's safer if we just stay indoors the rest of the day.

At least this morning, in an attempt to being a feeling other than numbness and pain to my leg, I did some exercise, 's Stretching to the Classics. Oh, and I so stiff from not getting regular exercise the past month! At least my back wound seems to be healing nicely now, well enough to keep the bandage off during the day today. Tomorrow I'm going to toss on a Sansone tape and see how much I can do, if my knee allows me to. It *did* feel good to *move* again, and I really have to get back on that exercise bandwagon, even if it's only 5 minutes a day to start.

So, dinner tonight is leftovers - whole wheat pasta spirals with a spicy veggie/garbanzo bean sauce and whatever cheese bread we still have. Tomorrow it's back to my scheduled dinner of Pioneer Baked Beans. I might get adventuresome and make up some WW dumplings to go with them, too. I have to work on all those veggie recipes so there isn't so much left over each meal.

After the laundromat tomorrow I'll work on getting all my water in. I'm down a bit for today, but I still have 2 hours before I have to stop for the day. I think I can get those 24 ounces in pretty easily.

Ed's wandering around the kitchen, wondering where I am, so I guess I better get out of here. See you all in the morning.

Sue in NJ

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> Cherilyn's reply: I don't really know very much about this, but my

> friend was having irregular cycles. She was bloating, hurting, and

craving

I've only been regular for about 2 years since I first started my cycles

when I was back in 7th grade, and my various GYN's had tried everything. The

best anyone did was put me on a combination pill, told me that *if* it

worked I would have to stay on it for the rest of my life (even after

menopause), but with my family history of heart problems (mother),

circulation problems (father) and cancer (just my grandmother at that point)

it would be best I don't take anything and just live with it.

> chocolate like mad.

The chocolate craving is new, just the past few months. I suspect it has

something to do with me no longer using the progesterone cream

(all-natural). I stopped using it because I didn't think it made any

difference, periods were still irregular. Well, when all the mood swings,

memory and emotional problems, and hot flashes started to come back, I just

started it back up again a few weeks ago. Only one hot flash since, but the

emotions & cravings have been running high. I suspect another week or so on

the progesterone cream and I'll be back to normal (?) again.

> Due to multiple pregnancies and nursing, I have only had one cycle

Even when nursing Henry for the year, my cycles started right back up again

within weeks of giving birth. The post-partum staining stopped after about 4

weeks and by week 6 or 7, there it was.

>Maybe, it would help you get Auntie sorted out.

All she has to do *now* at age 50 is pack her bags and leave for good! LOL

Sue in NJ

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Dear Dick, I didn’t’ mean to laugh at your fall, but the way you described

the ants up high cracked me up. I guess because I’ve taken some real

winners when it has come to falls. Luckily, none of them have been recent,

but one was the beginning of my nightmare with PA. It started the whole

thing. At least you were in your own back yard and no one else saw you

fall. I always seem to be my most “graceful” either in a room full of

people or a crowded area. I am sorry you tore our muscle and twisted your

ankle. I know that hurts like crazy.

I was writing to mention your numbness in your hands could be a form of

neuropathy. I know it normally happens in your feet, but I’ve had it happen

in my hands as well. I tend to drop things constantly, which is so

annoying. Not to bring up bad news, but have you ever been checked out for

MS. Surely if the Neurologist would have said something if he suspected

that was the problem. Let me know what your rheumatologist has to say.

Carpal tunnel sure seems to be the logical choice.

Take care and by the way, I got up to 5 hours the other night on the sleep

apnea machine. I had a rough spell a few days ago, but I think I’m getting

used to it now. I just wish I was feeling better, but maybe I’m rushing

things. Sincerely, Fran

[ ] Good News, Bad News

I went to see a Neurologist yesterday for some tests and the good

news is that I don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. The bad news is I

don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. Not that I wanted it, but that

would at least explain why my hands go num and hurt all the time.

It would be something that could be corrected. It has gotten so

that I am dropping things all the time. The numbness started about

8 years ago and is getting worse.

I go back to see my Rhumy next week and will take this info back so

we can figure out what is causing it. I know the arthritis is

affecting my wrists and they are swollen most of the time but I

thought it had to be the nerves that caused the numbness in my

fingers and the palms of my hand?

I will also get to tell him about my fall 2 weeks ago. I didn't

break the ankle but tore the muscle and twisted it really bad, all

kinds of pretty colors. I was walking in the back yard using my

cane and I don't remember falling, only looking at some ants and

wondering why they were up so high, until I realized it was me on

the ground. I didn't hit my hands or knees. Just don't know how it

happened, but it took the wife a little while to get me back up. So

we will talk about that also.

So it's back to the drawing board.

Dick

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Dick, I have permanent numbness in one finger and half of another but it is

from my neck. My other hand is numb a lot and I think that is from PA

making my wrist swell but I'm not sure yet. It is very annoying and keeps

me from working at my computer at home. For some reason I am not bothered

at work so I have tried to adjust my screen, keyboard, chair, etc. at home

but haven't found the combination that works yet. I have very little

sensation and I handle paper all day and I seriously wonder how much longer

I can do it. I hope your doc can find some answers for you.

Take care until then, Cheri :-))

[ ] Good News, Bad News

> I went to see a Neurologist yesterday for some tests and the good

> news is that I don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. The bad news is I

> don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. Not that I wanted it, but that

> would at least explain why my hands go num and hurt all the time.

> It would be something that could be corrected. It has gotten so

> that I am dropping things all the time. The numbness started about

> 8 years ago and is getting worse.

>

> I go back to see my Rhumy next week and will take this info back so

> we can figure out what is causing it. I know the arthritis is

> affecting my wrists and they are swollen most of the time but I

> thought it had to be the nerves that caused the numbness in my

> fingers and the palms of my hand?

>

> I will also get to tell him about my fall 2 weeks ago. I didn't

> break the ankle but tore the muscle and twisted it really bad, all

> kinds of pretty colors. I was walking in the back yard using my

> cane and I don't remember falling, only looking at some ants and

> wondering why they were up so high, until I realized it was me on

> the ground. I didn't hit my hands or knees. Just don't know how it

> happened, but it took the wife a little while to get me back up. So

> we will talk about that also.

>

> So it's back to the drawing board.

>

>

>

> Dick

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Dick, I developed severe pain in my hands and wrists after I tripped over one of

my dogs and fell on my hands (the dog wasn't hurt). My rheumy doubted it was

carpal tunnel and suggested we treat it as a flare of PA so he injected

cortisone into both wrists. WOW - what a difference that made. I was at the

point where I couldn't cut my own meat and I had trouble dressing myself.

Within a day of receiving the cortisone shots, the pain and swelling began to

subside. I had lost almost all feeling in my index and middle fingers. Most of

that has returned (although not all because there was probably some permanent

damage). The pain was so intense that for months it woke me up several times a

night. Now I wake up for other reasons (like having to pee - one of the joys of

being a middle aged woman), but never because my hands bother me. If your

rheumy doesn't suggest cortisone shots, maybe you can discuss that option with

him/her to see why not.

Wishing you wellness,

Kathy F.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dick,

I am having numbnes and tingling in my hands,feet and face. One doc

said it was neuropathy. I noticed it was markedly worse after my

last remicade treatment although my joints hurt less. I saw a

neuro for possible MS (biologics rarely cause this) He said it

didn't act like that at all.

Anyone else on a biologic having numbness and tingling? it is

baffling. Maybe yout rheum can solve it.

take care...sorry about your spill,

Marti

[EdNote: Hi there, Marti; I hope you're doing relatively well. Sorry to hear

about the numbness/tingling. Boy, that doc really stepped out there, to make

that spectacularly daring diagnosis (neuropathy):

From Webster's Collegiate:

" neuropathy " : an abnormal and usually degenerative state of the nervous

system/nerves. OK, I get it: " nerve sickness " . Like cardiac arrest. (us: " what

happened? doc: Oh, his heart stopped. us: Ummm, well, we're still a little

curious why that happened... " )

Do you feel it's related to taking remicade? How long have you had neuropathic

symptomology? Are you on Neurontin, Depakote, or something along that line? I've

done a little exploratory lit search; remicade, and other anti TNF influencing

meds, can influence demyelinating, which, theoretically, could expose neural

pathways to various and higher-risk (v. baseline) misadventures. It would be

useful to know how many of our gang suspect a problem here, and which biologic

is suspected. Perhaps we can do a little back-and-forth dialogue, and get to the

point where we have some questions for your (their) docs.

Completely separate issue: Marti, I need to get Bill Palmer's mailing address

and phone number. Would it be at all possible--if it's no bother--for you to

look it up and send it my way? If it's inconvenient, I can find another way.

Thanks. Take care, and fill me in on the nerve situation & meds you're taking,

and we'll see what we can puzzle out.

D.]

> Dear Dick, I didn't' mean to laugh at your fall, but the way you

described

> the ants up high cracked me up. I guess because I've taken some

real

> winners when it has come to falls. Luckily, none of them have been

recent,

> but one was the beginning of my nightmare with PA. It started the

whole

> thing. At least you were in your own back yard and no one else saw

you

> fall. I always seem to be my most " graceful " either in a room full

of

> people or a crowded area. I am sorry you tore our muscle and

twisted your

> ankle. I know that hurts like crazy.

>

> I was writing to mention your numbness in your hands could be a

form of

> neuropathy. I know it normally happens in your feet, but I've had

it happen

> in my hands as well. I tend to drop things constantly, which is so

> annoying. Not to bring up bad news, but have you ever been checked

out for

> MS. Surely if the Neurologist would have said something if he

suspected

> that was the problem. Let me know what your rheumatologist has to

say.

> Carpal tunnel sure seems to be the logical choice.

>

> Take care and by the way, I got up to 5 hours the other night on

the sleep

> apnea machine. I had a rough spell a few days ago, but I think I'm

getting

> used to it now. I just wish I was feeling better, but maybe I'm

rushing

> things. Sincerely, Fran

>

>

>

>

> [ ] Good News, Bad News

>

> I went to see a Neurologist yesterday for some tests and the good

> news is that I don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. The bad news is I

> don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. Not that I wanted it, but that

> would at least explain why my hands go num and hurt all the time.

> It would be something that could be corrected. It has gotten so

> that I am dropping things all the time. The numbness started about

> 8 years ago and is getting worse.

>

> I go back to see my Rhumy next week and will take this info back so

> we can figure out what is causing it. I know the arthritis is

> affecting my wrists and they are swollen most of the time but I

> thought it had to be the nerves that caused the numbness in my

> fingers and the palms of my hand?

>

> I will also get to tell him about my fall 2 weeks ago. I didn't

> break the ankle but tore the muscle and twisted it really bad, all

> kinds of pretty colors. I was walking in the back yard using my

> cane and I don't remember falling, only looking at some ants and

> wondering why they were up so high, until I realized it was me on

> the ground. I didn't hit my hands or knees. Just don't know how it

> happened, but it took the wife a little while to get me back up. So

> we will talk about that also.

>

> So it's back to the drawing board.

>

>

>

> Dick

[Guest guest]

-Hi !,

Thanks so much for your help. I am stymied here. I have had mild

symptoms of neuropathy for years....burning toes, esp at night. I

largely ignored these. then,hmmm darnit.....it was about the time

they increased the dose of my remicade I got the tingling and

numbness. I also felt like I was walking on glass. I think I

mentioned this once here. My internist said it was neuropathy,

probably caused by meds. I asked...which meds....he said good luck

figuring that one out.....blew the whole thing off. at my next rheum

appt. I listed neuropathy as a new health issue on a routine form.

the rheum got irritated(I swear people are going to think I make this

stupid stuff up it gets so mixed up for me with the docs here)and

said that does not sound like neuropathy at all...I want to see nerve

and muscle tests that is stupid!! she said she would give me one

more remicade treatment and then I needed to see a neurologist. i

said...you mean like it could be biologic induced MS? she said...yes

I have had one patient get that from enbrel but she had much more

dramatic symptoms. OK...I asked who she could refer me to and she

said " I'm not going to step on the other doc's toes....you'll have to

call him yourself " I did....tried to get a nurse to ask him....nurse

said " OH no he'll have to call you in person for this one " He

did....was mad...referred me to " sit and wait " at a nero and said

he'd contact my rheum. the subsequent neuro exam was a joke if not

worse. he seemed to have made his mind up right away that nothing

was wrong because I had a diagnosis of fibro. He asked me if I attend

church and did I spend a lot of time alone in my apt feeling sorry

for myself. when met with a dumbfounded stared from me he said these

were all important to a person's health and more docs should be

asking. he did a cursury(I mean very little) exam and said he didn't

want to give the nerve/muscle tests because they were uncomfortable.

I asked what he thought about fibro and a neuro component and he

said " People with fibro complain about everything but nothing is ever

wrong with them " -He said he would write the rheum and say it was safe

for me to take the biologics.

I take: clonopin(sort of like depakote?)

prozac,doxepin,protonix,vioxx, and zocor.

this got long.....thanks.

man...I had my eyes opened with your melonoma story....I am SO

glad you are OK.

I'll send Dr. Palmer's address privately....no problem at all.

thanks for all you do for all of us here,

Marti

[Editor's Note: (Marti, this is the 4th time I'm writing this; my system or AOL

keeps throwing me out...so I'm going to make this real abbreviated, and explain

in detail when I'm better able to.) Please forgive if I sound like a cheap

fella's telegram...

Thanks for the kind words. And pls allow me to thank U2: for all the support,

concern and wise advice you offer so many people. Your gentle heart and genuine

compassion are easily evident and shine through, despite the sterile blindness

and deafness of e-communication.

Re meds: You're still on Remicade (in addition to those named above), yes?

You have been glucose tolerance tested for Type II diabetes, I assume; that

causes a lot of neuropathy, particularly peripherally.

Could you possibly drop the Vioxx (given that you're taking Remicade with its

possible neuropathic consequences as well as the demyelinating Vioxx), long

enough to see whether you get improvement?

I'll keep researching, and respond soon. Take good care...and thanks for your

help.

D.]

- In , " snowbound22003 "

<mlw402@a...> wrote:

> Hi Dick,

>

> I am having numbnes and tingling in my hands,feet and face. One

doc

> said it was neuropathy. I noticed it was markedly worse after my

> last remicade treatment although my joints hurt less. I saw a

> neuro for possible MS (biologics rarely cause this) He said it

> didn't act like that at all.

>

> Anyone else on a biologic having numbness and tingling? it is

> baffling. Maybe yout rheum can solve it.

>

> take care...sorry about your spill,

> Marti

>

> [EdNote: Hi there, Marti; I hope you're doing relatively well.

Sorry to hear about the numbness/tingling. Boy, that doc really

stepped out there, to make that spectacularly daring diagnosis

(neuropathy):

> From Webster's Collegiate:

> " neuropathy " : an abnormal and usually degenerative state of the

nervous system/nerves. OK, I get it: " nerve sickness " . Like cardiac

arrest. (us: " what happened? doc: Oh, his heart stopped. us: Ummm,

well, we're still a little curious why that happened... " )

> Do you feel it's related to taking remicade? How long have you had

neuropathic symptomology? Are you on Neurontin, Depakote, or

something along that line? I've done a little exploratory lit search;

remicade, and other anti TNF influencing meds, can influence

demyelinating, which, theoretically, could expose neural pathways to

various and higher-risk (v. baseline) misadventures. It would be

useful to know how many of our gang suspect a problem here, and which

biologic is suspected. Perhaps we can do a little back-and-forth

dialogue, and get to the point where we have some questions for your

(their) docs.

> Completely separate issue: Marti, I need to get Bill Palmer's

mailing address and phone number. Would it be at all possible--if

it's no bother--for you to look it up and send it my way? If it's

inconvenient, I can find another way. Thanks. Take care, and fill me

in on the nerve situation & meds you're taking, and we'll see what we

can puzzle out.

>

> D.]

>

>

>

>

> > Dear Dick, I didn't' mean to laugh at your fall, but the way you

> described

> > the ants up high cracked me up. I guess because I've taken some

> real

> > winners when it has come to falls. Luckily, none of them have

been

> recent,

> > but one was the beginning of my nightmare with PA. It started

the

> whole

> > thing. At least you were in your own back yard and no one else

saw

> you

> > fall. I always seem to be my most " graceful " either in a room

full

> of

> > people or a crowded area. I am sorry you tore our muscle and

> twisted your

> > ankle. I know that hurts like crazy.

> >

> > I was writing to mention your numbness in your hands could be a

> form of

> > neuropathy. I know it normally happens in your feet, but I've

had

> it happen

> > in my hands as well. I tend to drop things constantly, which is

so

> > annoying. Not to bring up bad news, but have you ever been

checked

> out for

> > MS. Surely if the Neurologist would have said something if he

> suspected

> > that was the problem. Let me know what your rheumatologist has

to

> say.

> > Carpal tunnel sure seems to be the logical choice.

> >

> > Take care and by the way, I got up to 5 hours the other night on

> the sleep

> > apnea machine. I had a rough spell a few days ago, but I think

I'm

> getting

> > used to it now. I just wish I was feeling better, but maybe I'm

> rushing

> > things. Sincerely, Fran

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [ ] Good News, Bad News

> >

> > I went to see a Neurologist yesterday for some tests and the good

> > news is that I don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. The bad news

is I

> > don't have carpel tunnel syndrome. Not that I wanted it, but that

> > would at least explain why my hands go num and hurt all the time.

> > It would be something that could be corrected. It has gotten so

> > that I am dropping things all the time. The numbness started

about

> > 8 years ago and is getting worse.

> >

> > I go back to see my Rhumy next week and will take this info back

so

> > we can figure out what is causing it. I know the arthritis is

> > affecting my wrists and they are swollen most of the time but I

> > thought it had to be the nerves that caused the numbness in my

> > fingers and the palms of my hand?

> >

> > I will also get to tell him about my fall 2 weeks ago. I didn't

> > break the ankle but tore the muscle and twisted it really bad, all

> > kinds of pretty colors. I was walking in the back yard using my

> > cane and I don't remember falling, only looking at some ants and

> > wondering why they were up so high, until I realized it was me on

> > the ground. I didn't hit my hands or knees. Just don't know how

it

> > happened, but it took the wife a little while to get me back up.

So

> > we will talk about that also.

> >

> > So it's back to the drawing board.

> >

> >

> >

> > Dick

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In a message dated 2/12/2006 4:45:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eeyore1959@... writes:

.. I know crystal lite has the little individual packs called water to go, you just empty it into a water bottle and shake, There are others to that I have tried, they are very good, give the water a hint of flavor and have no calories

Hi Marla,

Walmart sells the flavored packets, too. They sure help get rid of a sweet tooth! My 2 favorites are fruit punch and raspberry ice. The walmart brand is also about 1/2 the price of the Crystal Lite ones. (My teenage son said to tell you that the Orange Sunshine is also very tasty. He uses it in place of Gatorade by adding a packet of Emergen-c to it for the electrolite replacement without the sugar.)

Sandi

[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried the water flavorings. I know crystal lite has the little individual packs called water to go, you just empty it into a water bottle and shake, There are others to that I have tried, they are very good, give the water a hint of flavor and have no calories.

hugs

Marla good news, bad news

Well I have good news and bad News. The good news is I got all 8 glasses of that disgusting water down me today and I haven't floated off nowhere. Now the bad news is, I was hoping I could bump my walking up to 1 hour and 2 miles Sunday. Ain't gonna happen! I'll have to maintain my 30 minute 1 mile walk for another week it seems. I haven't adjusted to it well enough yet and I don't want to overdo it. See, I'm still working on making this a new lifestyle. I am collecting my labels off off the foods I buy so I can manually insert the info on them for my calorie count at sparks people. I found that their calories for the foods differ from the food brands I eat and this way I can have a more accurate count. I figured I only have to put them in once and once I get them listed it will help. So another day gone by and another day survived:) I also made another realization tonight. Starches is another one of my weakness's. I think if I can closely monitor my starches I will come out ahead. Well I'm off to read the rest of my mail and see what the rest of you ladies has been up to today and take care of my other group mail. Ya'll have a good night and see ya tomorrow if not sooner. [image removed] ~:~The Personal Touch~:~Tags, Stats, or anything else personalized with your name.Everything here is personalized!http://free.hostdepartment.com/t/thepersonaltouchMy Personal Web Site MontanaNana Designs Artist Unknown

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no, I havent. Never knew such a thing existed. I normally like water if it is good and cold but our city water here is horrible. I think our water treatment plant needs a overhaul. hmmm.....I wonder about lemon juice added to water.

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good news, bad news

Well I have good news and bad News. The good news is I got all 8 glasses of that disgusting water down me today and I haven't floated off nowhere. Now the bad news is, I was hoping I could bump my walking up to 1 hour and 2 miles Sunday. Ain't gonna happen! I'll have to maintain my 30 minute 1 mile walk for another week it seems. I haven't adjusted to it well enough yet and I don't want to overdo it. See, I'm still working on making this a new lifestyle. I am collecting my labels off off the foods I buy so I can manually insert the info on them for my calorie count at sparks people. I found that their calories for the foods differ from the food brands I eat and this way I can have a more accurate count. I figured I only have to put them in once and once I get them listed it will help. So another day gone by and another day survived:) I also made another realization tonight. Starches is another one of my weakness's. I think if I can closely monitor my starches I will come out ahead. Well I'm off to read the rest of my mail and see what the rest of you ladies has been up to today and take care of my other group mail. Ya'll have a good night and see ya tomorrow if not sooner.

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Along with adding lemon juice to my water, I also like adding lime juice to my water for a different taste now & then. I normally don't have a problem drinking a lot of water. Partly because when we lived in West Africa, we learned how important it is to stay hydrated & how quickly a person can become dehydrated. Also, some of the medications I am, one of the side effects is that I get a dry mouth. And, as a diabetic, I know how important it is to keep my kidneys working! Dacia <>< For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

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I think I'd have a hard time getting down something I thought of as disgusting LOL. I had to experiment back in the beginning - room temp, ice cold, with lemon, etc. I started slow but now it's no big deal Take your time - if you aren't ready for the 2 miles - you'll end up giving up, so you're doing it the smart way <sandra.mygroup@...> wrote: Well I have good news and bad News. The good news is I got all 8 glasses of

that disgusting water down me today and I haven't floated off nowhere. Now the bad news is, I was hoping I could bump my walking up to 1 hour and 2 miles Sunday. Ain't gonna happen! I'll have to maintain my 30 minute 1 mile walk for another week it seems. I haven't adjusted to it well enough yet and I don't want to overdo it. See, I'm still working on making this a new lifestyle. I am collecting my labels off off the foods I buy so I can manually insert the info on them for my calorie count at sparks people. I found that their calories for the foods differ from the food brands I eat and this way I can have a more accurate count. I figured I only have to put them in once and once I get them listed it will help. So another day gone by and another day survived:) I also made another realization tonight. Starches is another one of my weakness's. I think if I can closely monitor my starches I will come out ahead. Live,

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I know crystal lite has the little individual packs called water to go

In what section do you find these? I would think where the Kool-aid and stuff is?

The walmart brand is also about 1/2 the price of the Crystal Lite ones

yep, I guess wal-mart has a lot of stuff I didn't know they had. Next time I do my grocery shopping I'll have to look around a bit. I would like to get me some of that butter spray too. My wish list just keeps growing. I know my budget isnt gonna allow me to get all this but I'm gonna price shop just to see how much all this cost.

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I think I'd have a hard time getting down something I thought of as disgusting LOL. I had to experiment back in the beginning - room temp, ice cold, with lemon, etc. I started slow but now it's no big deal Take your time - if you aren't ready for the 2 miles - you'll end up giving up, so you're doing it the smart way :)I have to have mine ice cold. And I have been drinking water at meals in place of my usual tea. Its the only way I can get 8 glasses in. I really don't see why it's so important to drink 8 glasses of water but everyone seems to agree you should do it so who am I to argue with so many people. I'm giving it my best shot.

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That is awesome. I do that too. I buy the bottled water. I love it with lemon juice and one of the other water flavorings is called water sensations. Really good.

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Marla Re: good news, bad news

no, I havent. Never knew such a thing existed. I normally like water if it is good and cold but our city water here is horrible. I think our water treatment plant needs a overhaul. hmmm.....I wonder about lemon juice added to water.

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good news, bad news

Well I have good news and bad News. The good news is I got all 8 glasses of that disgusting water down me today and I haven't floated off nowhere. Now the bad news is, I was hoping I could bump my walking up to 1 hour and 2 miles Sunday. Ain't gonna happen! I'll have to maintain my 30 minute 1 mile walk for another week it seems. I haven't adjusted to it well enough yet and I don't want to overdo it. See, I'm still working on making this a new lifestyle. I am collecting my labels off off the foods I buy so I can manually insert the info on them for my calorie count at sparks people. I found that their calories for the foods differ from the food brands I eat and this way I can have a more accurate count. I figured I only have to put them in once and once I get them listed it will help. So another day gone by and another day survived:) I also made another realization tonight. Starches is another one of my weakness's. I think if I can closely monitor my starches I will come out ahead. Well I'm off to read the rest of my mail and see what the rest of you ladies has been up to today and take care of my other group mail. Ya'll have a good night and see ya tomorrow if not sooner. [image removed] ~:~The Personal Touch~:~Tags, Stats, or anything else personalized with your name.Everything here is personalized!http://free.hostdepartment.com/t/thepersonaltouchMy Personal Web Site MontanaNana Designs Artist Unknown 100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

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Sandi,

I don't get to wal-mart very often, but I will ask my sister to look for it for me. Tello your son thanks, I will try the orange sunshine.

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Marla Re: good news, bad news

In a message dated 2/12/2006 4:45:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eeyore1959@... writes:

.. I know crystal lite has the little individual packs called water to go, you just empty it into a water bottle and shake, There are others to that I have tried, they are very good, give the water a hint of flavor and have no calories

Hi Marla,

Walmart sells the flavored packets, too. They sure help get rid of a sweet tooth! My 2 favorites are fruit punch and raspberry ice. The walmart brand is also about 1/2 the price of the Crystal Lite ones. (My teenage son said to tell you that the Orange Sunshine is also very tasty. He uses it in place of Gatorade by adding a packet of Emergen-c to it for the electrolite replacement without the sugar.)

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LOL - but actually the 2 things I remember is that 1) often 'hunger' pangs are actually a signal that we're dehydrated and 2) something about flushing out your system. <sandra.mygroup@...> wrote: I really don't see why it's so important to drink 8 glasses of water but everyone seems to agree you should do it so who am I to argue with so many people. I'm giving it my best shot.Live, Love, Laugh

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, I wouldn't feel bad about the walking. You are making a lifestyle change and you are still be active. Those are two good things in my book. Great job on drinking the water, by adding fruit (lemon/limes/oranges) to it. It makes it go down easier. It's also better when its cold or has ice in it. Do what you can and soon enough you will relize that you have made some great lifestyle changes. Blessings,

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Ok, the good news first.

My insurance is going to cover my implants! The bad news is that the

surgeon I had an appointment with this Thursday does not take my

insurance, my PCD told me!

I'm confused about this because when I called them, they said they did

take it!

My PCD's nurse gave me the name of another doctor, but when I called

to make an appointment, he was not a PS, but some diabetic doctor!

She gave me another name to call, and he never answered the phone at

all-it was only 2:30 in the afternoon...maybe their office was closed

on Tuesdays....

Will try again tomorrow.

[Guest guest]

Thank God your insurance will pay for the explant. Have you tried calling them

to find out

what surgeons are on your plan?

>

> Ok, the good news first.

>

> My insurance is going to cover my implants! The bad news is that the

> surgeon I had an appointment with this Thursday does not take my

> insurance, my PCD told me!

>

> I'm confused about this because when I called them, they said they did

> take it!

>

> My PCD's nurse gave me the name of another doctor, but when I called

> to make an appointment, he was not a PS, but some diabetic doctor!

>

> She gave me another name to call, and he never answered the phone at

> all-it was only 2:30 in the afternoon...maybe their office was closed

> on Tuesdays....

>

> Will try again tomorrow.

>

[Guest guest]

Having formerly worked for a large insurance company, this is something I've heard of a lot... Doctor's offices telling patients "Yes, we TAKE your insurance," then you later find out from your insurance company that the doctor's office does not "participate" with your insurance company. It's usually someone tricking you technicalities rather than an error -though sometimes not.

Sure doctor's offices may "take" your insurance payments, or even file a claim for you, but it doesn't mean they "participate" with your insurance company. What you want to ask them is "Do you participate with my insurance? Do you have a contract with them?"

The difference is -if they have a contract to participate with your insurance company, they are bound to their "usual customary rates" -or "UCR." They agree to write off any amount over what your insurance company sets as what is reasonable for the procedure. If they do not participate with your insurance, they might still file a claim for you or agree to "take" their payment --- but they are not bound to any agreements with them.

As most of you may know, your insurance company will not pay based on what your doctor is charging you, but rather based on their own UCR for that procedure. So, it helps to keep your costs down to use someone who participates with your insurance.

(If they do not participate and agree to take your insurance companies payment directly they may still charge you the full fees up front, and will probably have you sign an assignment of benefits authorizing your insurance to pay them directly.)

I would double check ANY doctor with my insurance company myself so that you know, and aren't a victim of a technicality or a receptionist who is too lazy to check!

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Well, that's fantastic about your insurance coverage! Yay! Doesn't your insurance provide a list of doctors? This is going to be a fight for you....I wonder if you can go out of network and get them to reimburse you? Pattyleyna1964 <leyna1964@...> wrote: Ok, the good news first. My insurance is going to cover my implants! The bad news is that the surgeon I had an appointment with this Thursday does not take my

insurance, my PCD told me!I'm confused about this because when I called them, they said they did take it!My PCD's nurse gave me the name of another doctor, but when I called to make an appointment, he was not a PS, but some diabetic doctor!She gave me another name to call, and he never answered the phone at all-it was only 2:30 in the afternoon...maybe their office was closed on Tuesdays....Will try again tomorrow.

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Patty, I just called my insurance company to ask for a list of doctors, because the ones listed in my insurance handbook thing no longer take my insurance. They told me that there are only 2 doctors left in my network who take it-and they are both in the same office it looks like. This is Dr. Wallace, who I talked to a few weeks ago. He does En Bloc, but they are completely oblivious to the fact that silicone is making us sick! The nurse is very rude and condensating, and swears that sillicone is safe and that she has them herself and has no problems at all with them. No matter what I said, she did not change her mind. Plus, she swore that my insurance would not pay for the surgery, even though I told her that it most definantly would, that I had already talked to them and they approved it. She said that I had to come to their office with a letter

in my hand, stating that they would cover it before they would even see me at all! Plus, she said the wait for the surgery would be 3-4 months after I got a consultation from them. So I've been trying different doctors, and I'm just now finding out that this is the ONLY one who takes my insurance. It's state-funded insurance for low income people-similar to Medicaid in a way. It does not cover anything out of Tennessee at all. I called my insurance today to try to talk them into covering out of state, so I could go to Melmed, and they said that normally they do not cover this type of surgery at all, but that this is a special situation and they are going to do it-but that it HAS to be in Tennessee, and Dr. Wallace is the only one in the network. This is just crazy!Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Well, that's fantastic about your insurance coverage! Yay! Doesn't your insurance provide a list of doctors? This is going to be a fight for you....I wonder if you can go out of network and get them to reimburse you? Pattyleyna1964 <leyna1964 > wrote: Ok, the good news first. My insurance is going to cover my implants!

The bad news is that the surgeon I had an appointment with this Thursday does not take my insurance, my PCD told me!I'm confused about this because when I called them, they said they did take it!My PCD's nurse gave me the name of another doctor, but when I called to make an appointment, he was not a PS, but some diabetic doctor!She gave me another name to call, and he never answered the phone at all-it was only 2:30 in the afternoon...maybe their office was closed on Tuesdays....Will try again tomorrow. All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. __________________________________________________

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-I went to a PS for consult yesterday about removing that remaining

capsule on my right side, had a neighbor friend drive me 45 minutes

each way and once there the receptionist said,'oh we don't take that

insurance sorry', I went off, I had checked by phone with their

office at time I sceduled the consult and was told that they do take

it, I was so mad I went off telling them that they were just in the

business of making women sick with implants but don't help out when

it comes to helping to get them removed, and how they are all about

the cash, I felt better she and the doctor were the only ones there

at the time, anyway back to square one, this was a dr. that was

recommended by the group.I went to my gyno instead and he gave me a

recommendation of a female Dr. who is a surgeon. Not a PS. SO WE WILL

SEE, also my gyno is going to run alot more tests and noticed that my

collar bone is inflamed on both sides of my neck, he said that was

very curious, I gave him the list of chemicals in implants and he

couldn't believe that they put that stuff in humans, I also gave him

Dr. Kolbs protocol. He told me he had a friend in Florida who was a

PS and had sued Dow and won 3 million dollars for causing him to lose

his reputation and credibility and hence his practice after all this

stuff came out about implants. Amazing they can pay 3 mill to Dr, but

we are sick and wait and wait.

Terri P

Hawaii

-- In , KissofSadness@... wrote:

>

> Having formerly worked for a large insurance company, this is

something I've

> heard of a lot... Doctor's offices telling patients " Yes, we TAKE

your

> insurance, " then you later find out from your insurance company

that the doctor's

> office does not " participate " with your insurance company. It's

usually

> someone tricking you technicalities rather than an error -though

sometimes not.

>

> Sure doctor's offices may " take " your insurance payments, or even

file a

> claim for you, but it doesn't mean they " participate " with your

insurance

> company. What you want to ask them is " Do you participate with my

insurance? Do you

> have a contract with them? "

>

> The difference is -if they have a contract to participate with

your

> insurance company, they are bound to their " usual customary rates " -

or " UCR. " They

> agree to write off any amount over what your insurance company

sets as what is

> reasonable for the procedure. If they do not participate with your

insurance,

> they might still file a claim for you or agree to " take " their

payment ---

> but they are not bound to any agreements with them.

>

> As most of you may know, your insurance company will not pay based

on what

> your doctor is charging you, but rather based on their own UCR for

that

> procedure. So, it helps to keep your costs down to use someone who

participates

> with your insurance.

>

> (If they do not participate and agree to take your insurance

companies

> payment directly they may still charge you the full fees up front,

and will

> probably have you sign an assignment of benefits authorizing your

insurance to pay

> them directly.)

>

> I would double check ANY doctor with my insurance company myself

so that you

> know, and aren't a victim of a technicality or a receptionist who

is too

> lazy to check!

>