Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 I have a daughter with a mild loss, too. she is three years old. How old is your child? She uses voice and sign. Because it happened so young and still fluctuates it puts her severly behind in speech and language for her age. Since we started with sign almost a year ago she is just emerging in spoken and sign supported english. It's hard in a classroom even with the FM. She wears hearing aides and that has helped tremendously. She has an aide who teaches her new words in english and sign. This aide reads the stories to small groups in spoken and sign supported english. They are also teaching signs to her peers in their weekly lessons. The aide goes with her to speech since the speech patholgist doesn't sign. this summer she will go to another school system which offers a program to hard of hearing and deaf children in language. The deaf children will communicate in ASL and the hard of hearing in voice and sign. This will her give her a different experience to be with her peers who use sign all the time. I hope it works. We are fighting with our town constantlly because they don't understand hard of hearing issues. I find this to very frustrating. I am hard of hearing and I feel the frustration all the time. I hope to elevate some of it for my child. Please feel free to email me if you want. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 In a message dated 6/10/99 6:21:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, listenup@... writes: << While this is not exactly what you were looking for, perhaps there is some info here that will be helpful to you: Students with mild hearing loss http://curriculum.qed.qld.gov.au/lisc/articles/hi/hiinfo25.htm >> Thanks a bunch Kay. Any info will helpas this is a whole new ballgame for me. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 >Looking for someone whose child has a mild loss. Just found out my daughter >has a 30DB loss in the lower frequencies only and am unsure of how to proceed >with her. I am clueless about mild losses as I've only dealt with my son who >is profoundly deaf. So anyone out there with a similar situation? Let me >know...Thanks! While this is not exactly what you were looking for, perhaps there is some info here that will be helpful to you: Students with mild hearing loss http://curriculum.qed.qld.gov.au/lisc/articles/hi/hiinfo25.htm Kay listenup@... Listen Up Web http://members.tripod.com/listenup/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 >From: Theathdi@... > >Hi Fellow Listees, >Looking for someone whose child has a mild loss. Just found out my daughter >has a 30DB loss in the lower frequencies only and am unsure of how to proceed >with her. I am clueless about mild losses as I've only dealt with my son who >is profoundly deaf. So anyone out there with a similar situation? Let me >know...Thanks! >Terry Yes, Terry, my older daughter also has a mild, rising loss (about 35db in the lower frequencies, rising to near normal in the higher frequencies). My younger son is moderate to moderately-severe, so his need is more clear-cut. I am also unclear on what to do; her audiologist really feels she would benefit with hearing aids, but it seems so drastic when she seems to hear in every situation. Our ENT has suggested we hold off until she enters kindergarten, and closely monitor her at that point for difficulty in a noisy, crowded classroom situation. She just turned four, has exceptional speech and language skills, can hear the TV from a reasonable distance, and responds to me in the car, from another floor, when I'm behind her, etc. I have not been able to identify anyone who is older with a similar loss who could give guidance. We found out about my daughter's loss when we had her routinely screened because of her brother's loss; we were totally shocked, since she showed no signs of it. I'll be happy to share any other insights I come across, and would love if you do the same. Stefanie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >How many communities do you think join ONElist each week? >http://www.onelist.com >More than 5,000! Create yours now! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post >is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to >copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 > wrote: > >I have a 30-40 db loss in my right ear in the mid frequencies. Even though >it's only some of the frequencies and only in one ear, I have alot of >trouble with noise, >lipread all the time and LOVE closed captioning. DId you ever consider hearing aids? Our audiologist is suggesting them for my daughter with a mild loss. Also, have you had this loss your whole life? Thanks, Stefanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 1999 Report Share Posted June 11, 1999 >DId you ever consider hearing aids? Our audiologist is suggesting them for >my daughter with a mild loss. Also, have you had this loss your whole life? > >Thanks, Stefanie I also have a mild hearing loss in both ears-don't try to talk to me in a place like HQ because I won't hear you! My Audie mentioned hearing aids for me, but I didn't want them just now. I am learning ASL for my daughter, and find I am pretty good at lipreading, and I say " huh? What? " a lot. I would suspect it would be different for a child with the same loss- mine is gradual and I seem to be compensating for it in other ways. Eventually I guess HAs will be in the picture, but not yet. I do have over 30 years experience of hearing to draw on which comes in handy! Ede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 1999 Report Share Posted June 11, 1999 In a message dated 6/10/99 8:48:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, scaruso3@... writes: << I'll be happy to share any other insights I come across, and would love if you do the same. Stefanie >> Hi Stefanie, I'll do the same. My (I use the term loosely as its the first time we've seen this group) ENT and audiologist recommended not aiding her. She has a 30 to 35 loss in the low frequencies only and perfectly normal at the high. She needs to have the tv blasting (at least it sounds that way to me over four kids smile) and complains she is having trouble hearing at school with the background noise. I am under the feeling if she has any loss that is affecting speech, then she should probably be aided. I'll collect more opinions on this before I decide what to pursue. (Lower frequencies include vowels) I will have trouble getting her accomodations at school due to she is getting straight a's in an accelerated program (one year ahead) They dont like to give you anything until its affecting school performance. She'll be going into fourth grade next year but doing fifth grade L.A. and math. This is the daughter that signs fluently so we're in luck if it becomes progressive. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 1999 Report Share Posted June 11, 1999 In a message dated 6/11/99 5:35:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ede@... writes: << I also have a mild hearing loss in both ears-don't try to talk to me in a place like HQ because I won't hear you! My Audie mentioned hearing aids for me, but I didn't want them just now. I am learning ASL for my daughter, and find I am pretty good at lipreading, and I say " huh? What? " a lot. I would suspect it would be different for a child with the same loss- mine is gradual and I seem to be compensating for it in other ways. Eventually I guess HAs will be in the picture, but not yet. I do have over 30 years experience of hearing to draw on which comes in handy! Ede >> Ede, Do they attribute your progressive loss to WS? I am curious as to this..they told me years ago that progressive loss was unusual but now I'm wondering. They recommended aids for you? What is your loss? My daughter's is 30 to 35 db but only at the low frequencies. My deaf son's audiogram makes a sharp slope downward at 1000, hers is opposite. Very odd Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 1999 Report Share Posted June 11, 1999 Tina had a bit of a problem posting to the list (which I hope has now been corrected). I'm forwarding this message for her. Terry, I have a two year old son with a mild bilateral hearing loss. He wears HA's in both ears and is doing beautifully with them. He has been aided since he was 15 months and has mad so much progress in his speech and language. How old is your daughter? What kind of info are you looking for? I also have a daughter who has a moderate to severe loss Let me know , I will try to relay our experience. tina tpurtee@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 >They dont >like to give you anything until its affecting school performance. No they don't, but if you're want to fight for it, here are a couple of things that may help. Look at the last question on this page from ASHA http://www.asha.org/professionals/information/school_serv_faq.htm and Case law..speech/lang is life skill..no educational deficit necessary http://home1.gte.net/sherryze/cl_speech.htm Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 In a message dated 6/11/99 10:13:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, listenup@... writes: << Terry, I have a two year old son with a mild bilateral hearing loss. He wears HA's in both ears and is doing beautifully with them. He has been aided since he was 15 months and has mad so much progress in his speech and language. How old is your daughter? What kind of info are you looking for? I also have a daughter who has a moderate to severe loss Let me know , I will try to relay our experience. tina tpurtee@... >> Hi Tina, My daughter who is almost 10 has just been identified with a mild loss bilaterally at 30 to 35 DB in the low frequencies only. On the audiogram, her hearing is almost normally at mid frequencies and totally normal at high frequencies. I have been advised to do nothing and I dont buy this. Want to see what is being done with other children with the same type of losses. Are they aided? What type of accomodations do they have in school etc? I also have a profoundly deaf (signing) son.What type of loss does your son have? Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 In a message dated 6/11/99 11:23:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, listenup@... writes: << speech/lang is life skill. >> Kay, Yeah but her speech-language is excellent and I've not noticed any change as of yet. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 In a message dated 6/11/99 7:39:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Barbara.T.Mellert@... writes: << it's a conductive loss). >> They also think my daughter's loss is conductive. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 Some good ideas Kay-thanks! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 In a message dated 6/12/99 7:53:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, listenup@... writes: << What accommodations were you thinking of? >> Hmmm havent really decided yet. Havent even figured out if she should be aided or not. Professional opinion not; mom's opinion-probably. Just anticipate a battle as I had a battle with my ODD son as he tested out as two years ahead. Had to wait until he was having problems before I got an IEP. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 ><< speech/lang is life skill. >> >Yeah but her speech-language is excellent Isn't being able to hear a life skill? (At least for someone with a mild-moderate loss) I agree, it's a long shot, but at least it's something to try. If they still won't provide an FM or anything else, then at least request provisions for auditory fatigue: frequent rests from having to listen throughout the day, freedom to move closer to the speaker if the listening situation is difficult, etc. I would also ask for some of the provisions provided for speech-readers if you think she may be using what she sees on the face (lips) to fill in some of the parts she may be missing auditorily. Things like the teacher not standing in front of a window (or other bright light source) while talking, not facing the blackboard while talking, etc. If there's not carpeting on the classroom floors, you may also want to ask for tennis balls. (Cut an X on each tennis ball and place them on each leg of the chairs or desks). This helps cut back background noise and makes it easier for a child with a hearing loss to hear. Heck, it probably wouldn't hurt to e-mail Ms. Flexer (link on the page I sent earlier - though if school is out she may not be there) and see if she has any input on the situation. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 >I will have trouble getting her accomodations at school due to she is >getting straight a's in an accelerated program (one year ahead) What accommodations were you thinking of? Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 ><< What accommodations were you thinking of? >> >Hmmm havent really decided yet. Havent even figured out if she should be >aided or not. Professional opinion not; mom's opinion-probably. Just >anticipate a battle as I had a battle with my ODD son as he tested out as two >years ahead. Had to wait until he was having problems before I got an IEP. An FM or sound field system probably wouldn't be a bad idea. To see if she would benefit from one, you might ask your audiologist to do a speech discrimination test with and without the presence of background noise. If you do decide to ask for the sound field of FM (or many other accommodations), you'll then have some concrete evidence to back you up. If you go for an FM system, the ones used by schools usually have amplification capabilities built into them (kind of a combo hearing aid and FM system - for mild/moderate losses). Make sure your daughter doesn't use it till it's been adjusted to her needs by an audiologist. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 My daughter also has a mild loss in the low frequencies and more severe in the higher frequencies. She is 7 now and has been aided since she was 4. We didn't discover her hearing impairment until our son was diagnosed as profoundly deaf. Before that time, the professionals had thought she had a language delay/lagged development. She is doing well now, but there are still concerns with the school, her language developemnt etc. Heidi >>> 06/10 7:30 PM >>> From: Theathdi@... Hi Fellow Listees, Looking for someone whose child has a mild loss. Just found out my daughter has a 30DB loss in the lower frequencies only and am unsure of how to proceed with her. I am clueless about mild losses as I've only dealt with my son who is profoundly deaf. So anyone out there with a similar situation? Let me know...Thanks! Terry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each week? http://www.onelist.com More than 5,000! Create yours now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 In a message dated 6/14/99 7:28:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Heidi_Smart@... writes: << My daughter also has a mild loss in the low frequencies and more severe in the higher frequencies. She i >> Hi Heidi, thanks for sharing. Your daughter's hearing loss is much greater than mine. She has normal hearing except in the low frequencies and then only has a 30Db. Thanks again! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 Terry, Thanks for your info -- so far, this hasn't affected my daughter's speech and language development; in fact, she's advanced in both. We are probably going to wait until she goes to kindergarten and then assess the impact on her schooling, i.e. what you mentioned regarding background noise, etc. The interesting thing is, she seems to hear in every situation, and I haven't noticed the TV being loud, so I'm having a hard time seeing a need for HAs. What made you test your daughter? STefanie >Hi Stefanie, >I'll do the same. My (I use the term loosely as its the first time we've >seen this group) ENT and audiologist recommended not aiding her. She has a >30 to 35 loss in the low frequencies only and perfectly normal at the high. >She needs to have the tv blasting (at least it sounds that way to me over >four kids smile) and complains she is having trouble hearing at school with >the background noise. I am under the feeling if she has any loss that is >affecting speech, then she should probably be aided. I'll collect more >opinions on this before I decide what to pursue. (Lower frequencies include >vowels) I will have trouble getting her accomodations at school due to she is >getting straight a's in an accelerated program (one year ahead) They dont >like to give you anything until its affecting school performance. She'll be >going into fourth grade next year but doing fifth grade L.A. and math. This >is the daughter that signs fluently so we're in luck if it becomes >progressive. >Terry > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >With more than 20 million e-mails exchanged daily... >http://www.onelist.com >...ONElist is home to the liveliest discussions on the Internet! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post >is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to >copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 Terry, you wrote: >they >told me years ago that progressive loss was unusual but now I'm wondering. My audiologist told me that 20% of the time, hearing loss is progessive; that doesn't sound like it's that unusual. Stefanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 In a message dated 6/14/99 8:39:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, scaruso3@... writes: << Thanks for your info -- so far, this hasn't affected my daughter's speech and language development; in fact, she's advanced in both. We are probably going to wait until she goes to kindergarten and then assess the impact on her schooling, i.e. what you mentioned regarding background noise, etc. The interesting thing is, she seems to hear in every situation, and I haven't noticed the TV being loud, so I'm having a hard time seeing a need for HAs. What made you test your daughter? STefanie >> Well she failed the hearing screening at the doctors office. That was wake up and then the increase in the volume on the tv. My daughter can also hear everywhere. She cant if she goes up to her room, blasts her cds and shut the door but could my other daughter? Doubtful. On the way home from the ENT (had to drive up the mountain into another town) we had all the windows open as it was one of the only times we didnt have anyone in the backseat. She had to keep asking me to repeat because of the wind. Her speech is excellent. I think it might just be enough to mess her up educationallly. By the way, during the hearing test, she missed three words out of 10 for auditory discrimination. She heard the word but it just sounded indistinguishable. I'm afraid she has excellent coping skills such as lipreading,etc. she may elect to not tell me ifit gets worse.... Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 In a message dated 6/14/99 8:39:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, scaruso3@... writes: << My audiologist told me that 20% of the time, hearing loss is progessive; that doesn't sound like it's that unusual. Stefanie >> You took that quote out of context-progressive loss with WS is unusual. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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