Re: Devorce yet?/michel

[Guest guest]

Oh I never forget there is much worse out there --- I am very

thankfull for my blessings. But I also intend to be sure things get

no farther.

Seems to be working ok - I still hate that he did it, but MY NEW

TRUCK rolled into the driveway last night! Not new as in year---but

my favorate truck in the world...1979 chevy 4wheel drive. Ya!

I had one and had to get rid of it back a good 7 or 8 years ago, and

it broke my heart - loved that thing. He has the guilties I

guess..because he got me another!

Ang

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was being so friendly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even her husband could tell.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....Ya, I am the only female my husband

> > > DOESN'T

> > > > > > treat

> > > > > > > > > > > like ???

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean even on the phon I know if it's a

girl

> > > > because

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > way

> > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > talks!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bottem line is guys are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always going to look, cheeting is a

> > diffrent

> > > > > story.

> > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > > sorry

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most guys look at porn. I know alot of

> > ladys

> > > > out

> > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > think

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full of it. I know alot of my husbands

> > > friends

> > > > > who

> > > > > > > > laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there wives don't have a clue. If I

were

> > you

> > > > > don't

> > > > > > > flip

> > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > porn cause he is going to do it anyway.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......Your ok with him thinking about

> > > > the 'perfect'

> > > > > > > woman

> > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > track while he's with you? See to me,

it's

> > the

> > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > counts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels like he IS physically with other

> > > > > woman...is

> > > > > > > he?

> > > > > > > > > > Now,

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't think so, before? No clue. I know

> > nothing

> > > > > > > > > about 'his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > life'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you think he might

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheet act stupid and it's easier to

catch

> > > them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......I do try to do that - LOL - but he

> can

> > > tell

> > > > > by

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > coolness

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > somethings up - and it's always the same

> > thing.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Anyways

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon enough your gonna loose all your

> > weight

> > > > and

> > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > fine.

> > > > > > > > > > > > When

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do make sure you point out all the good

> > > looken

> > > > > guys

> > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how he likes it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....Well, he don't care if I look at men -

> > > since

> > > > I

> > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > > > > probably.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > He put a nude (gorgous) pic of a guy on

my

> > desk

> > > > > > > top...he

> > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like other men looking at me. So I do

enjoy

> > it

> > > > when

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > friends

> > > > > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice...and even be sure to hang out

close

> > > > enough

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > particular because he always wants to hug

> me

> > or

> > > > > > > > > > something...he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > doen't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean anything by it - he's just a good

> friend

> > > of

> > > > > mine.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ang

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

That's soooo sweet. It reminds me of an old country song. hehehe

Michel

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was being so friendly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even her husband could tell.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....Ya, I am the only female my

husband

> > > > DOESN'T

> > > > > > > treat

> > > > > > > > > > > > like ???

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean even on the phon I know if it's a

> girl

> > > > > because

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > way

> > > > > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talks!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bottem line is guys are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always going to look, cheeting is a

> > > diffrent

> > > > > > story.

> > > > > > > > And

> > > > > > > > > > > sorry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most guys look at porn. I know alot

of

> > > ladys

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > think

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full of it. I know alot of my

husbands

> > > > friends

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there wives don't have a clue. If I

> were

> > > you

> > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > flip

> > > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > porn cause he is going to do it

anyway.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......Your ok with him thinking about

> > > > > the 'perfect'

> > > > > > > > woman

> > > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > track while he's with you? See to me,

> it's

> > > the

> > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > counts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It feels like he IS physically with

other

> > > > > > woman...is

> > > > > > > > he?

> > > > > > > > > > > Now,

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't think so, before? No clue. I know

> > > nothing

> > > > > > > > > > about 'his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > life'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you think he might

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheet act stupid and it's easier to

> catch

> > > > them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......I do try to do that - LOL - but

he

> > can

> > > > tell

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > coolness

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somethings up - and it's always the

same

> > > thing.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Anyways

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon enough your gonna loose all your

> > > weight

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > fine.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > When

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do make sure you point out all the

good

> > > > looken

> > > > > > guys

> > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how he likes it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....Well, he don't care if I look at

men -

>

> > > > since

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > probably.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He put a nude (gorgous) pic of a guy on

> my

> > > desk

> > > > > > > > top...he

> > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like other men looking at me. So I do

> enjoy

> > > it

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > > > > > friends

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice...and even be sure to hang out

> close

> > > > > enough

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particular because he always wants to

hug

> > me

> > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > something...he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > doen't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean anything by it - he's just a good

> > friend

> > > > of

> > > > > > mine.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ang

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

That's great ang! happy cruisin'

Vic

sunshinestarface wrote:That's soooo sweet. It reminds me of an old country

song. hehehe

Michel

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, like you said - he doesn't hide it.

> Women

> > > > tell

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > husband

> > > > > > > > > > > > > things like " anywhere, anytime " , " So what,

> your

> > > > wife

> > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > know " ... all kinds of stuff. These girls

are

> > all

> > > > but

> > > > > > > > begging

> > > > > > > > > > > him,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to talk him into sex.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He doesn't tell me, I always find out from

> > > someone

> > > > > else

> > > > > > > > long

> > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > anything could have happened.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If he were the type to tell me, I could

joke

> > with

> > > > him

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > how wonderful he must be or whatever. But

> when

> > he

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > > > > his 'secret life' --- it's just not right.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > How long has he been acting like this? This

is

> > just

> > > > my

> > > > > > > > openion.

> > > > > > > > > > It

> > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like you really love him and I'm sure

he

> > > loves

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > too

> > > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > maby you should see someone just to help out

> with

> > > the

> > > > > > ruff

> > > > > > > > > edges.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Some times they don't realize that the way

they

> > are

> > > > > > acting

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > worse

> > > > > > > > > > > > then they think. It sounds like he is doing

> what

> > he

> > > > > wants

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > justifying it in his head to make it ok. Or

> even

> > > > > staying

> > > > > > > mad

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > over stupid things just so he can be the way

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ang,

I found a message board site that may be helpful to you. Go to

http://askmen.com/message_boards/index.html and click on the love and

realationships message board. Then go to the fourth page and click on the

question " help(porno obsessed husband " I hope this can be of help

VicAng,

Me again. Well it sounds like you have a good head on your

shoulders. You know what you have to do. I wish the best for you and

your family. Just remember when you think you have it bad there is

always someone who has it worse. I have a friend who came over

yesterday and her husband was acused of making sexual advances to her

11 year old neice. She has a little girl who is crushed. My friend

had to move back in with her parents and it really sucks. She is now

getting a divorce, and her whole world has been fliped upside down.

The whole thing is going to court. Now when the little girl wants to

see her daddy my friend has to supervise visits to cover all ground

if they try to take custedy away from her for letting her go with

him. The family is mad at her for spending time with him when she is

only doing it for her daughter since she is being punished enough for

things thet were out of her control. I really feel for her and her

daughter. My friends little girl was questioned by a profecional and

dosen't show any signs of being abused so that is good. As far as the

rest of the story I haven't a clue but I guess we will all find out

when it goes to trial. So see, dosen't that make your life sound like

a bed of roses?

I hope things get better for you. But your right not to jump the gun

if you don't have two feet to stand on. Take care

Michel

-- In weightlossbuddies2@y..., " amdvdhjr " wrote:

> I believe it is an addiction really. I think he does try not

> to...then some pop up comes up and no one's home...it only takes

one

> picture and here it goes. He knows when I know, but if I say even

1

> word he goes off. But just knowing that I know is enough to make

him

> stop I think - for a time.

> And your right. I am working on 'me' and my personal strength.

Once

> the baby is out of 'daddy is

> god' moad and I am able to work - and my self insecurities are

worked

> out (and yes, when I'm not over weight), I think I'll be in a

better

> position to say 'see ya'....then let him come after me and make the

> promises. He's a tough cookie to crack and reguardless of

> consequences will do or will not do what he feels to be right ---

so

> untill I can realy suport myself I don't want to make waves.

> Ang

>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ang,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > No I'm definetly not ok with him looking at

> porn

> > > and

> > > > he

> > > > > > > knows

> > > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > just don't see the point in fliping out about

> it

> > > when

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > > can't

> > > > > > > > > > > > change people. I made it clear that I don't

> like

> > it

> > > > but

> > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > going

> > > > > > > > > > > > to go out and get divorce papers over it

> either.

> > > And

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > lady

> > > > > > > > > > > > at the track. He wasn't making passes at her

I

> > > could

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > atracted to her. It's only humon nature to

look

> > > it's

> > > > if

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > cross

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > line by being more then just friendly with a

> > > person.

> > > > I

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > never cheated on me I just don't let my self

> > think

> > > it

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > never

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[Guest guest]

Turns out that although it looks GREAT. there's just too much wrong

with it - we could fix it but I don't want to spend 1000$ to get it

legall and running like a champ.

I just love it though --- Back when I had mine it was still legal to

have glass packs ---- oh how I love the crackle of a good running

powerfull truck (stick only please).

This one even has the lift kit and big nice tires I like.

Oh well - sa-la-ve'. Hopefully I'll spot another.

All this engine talk makes me want to go to the races - been a

while. Oh or mudding --- I so miss being young and childless.

Ang

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, like you said - he doesn't hide it.

> > Women

> > > > > tell

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > husband

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > things like " anywhere, anytime " , " So

what,

> > your

> > > > > wife

> > > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > know " ... all kinds of stuff. These girls

> are

> > > all

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > begging

> > > > > > > > > > > > him,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to talk him into sex.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > He doesn't tell me, I always find out

from

> > > > someone

> > > > > > else

> > > > > > > > > long

> > > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything could have happened.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If he were the type to tell me, I could

> joke

> > > with

> > > > > him

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how wonderful he must be or whatever. But

> > when

> > > he

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > his 'secret life' --- it's just not right.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > How long has he been acting like this? This

> is

> > > just

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > openion.

> > > > > > > > > > > It

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like you really love him and I'm

sure

> he

> > > > loves

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > too

> > > > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > > maby you should see someone just to help

out

> > with

> > > > the

> > > > > > > ruff

> > > > > > > > > > edges.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some times they don't realize that the way

> they

> > > are

> > > > > > > acting

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > worse

> > > > > > > > > > > > > then they think. It sounds like he is doing

> > what

> > > he

> > > > > > wants

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > justifying it in his head to make it ok. Or

> > even

> > > > > > staying

> > > > > > > > mad

> > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > over stupid things just so he can be the

way

>

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