Re: Need Help with Urination Issues

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your response.

I had tried Glyconutrients from Manatech in 2004. Used them for 9 months and

honestly

could notice no change in my situation.

Do you or anyone else have any other suggestions on what I can do to reactivate

/

stimulate the bladder to function normally.

It is quite a serious issue and I will appreciate all the help I can get.

Regards

Raj

>

> Hello Everyone,

>

> My name is Raj and have had MS for many years. I recently suffered from a

serious viral

> infection which was caused by my having overflow incontinence. The doctors

have

managed

> to eliminate the virus completely. It was caused because I have been holding a

lot of

water in

> my bladder for many months due to the inability to urinate normally.

>

> Now I find that since they emptied my bladder using a catherer that I am

unable to pass

urine

> at all until the bladder reaches a FULL state. I therefore have to keep using

a catherer

3~4

> times a day in order to void my bladder else it will result in a similar

infection again and

> again.

>

> Do any of you have any suggestions on what I can do to improve/activate the

natural

use of

> my bladdsr so that I can urinate normally to void my bladder. Using this

catherer is

effective

> but awfully painful and extremely inconvenient.

>

> I would appreciate all the help that anyone can offer. Please help.

>

> Regards

>

> Raj

>

[Guest guest]

Raj,

Do you have spinal cord lesions?

Ron

>

> Hello Everyone,

>

> My name is Raj and have had MS for many years. I recently suffered

from a serious viral

> infection which was caused by my having overflow incontinence. The

doctors have managed

> to eliminate the virus completely. It was caused because I have

been holding a lot of water in

> my bladder for many months due to the inability to urinate

normally.

>

> Now I find that since they emptied my bladder using a catherer

that I am unable to pass urine

> at all until the bladder reaches a FULL state. I therefore have to

keep using a catherer 3~4

> times a day in order to void my bladder else it will result in a

similar infection again and

> again.

>

> Do any of you have any suggestions on what I can do to

improve/activate the natural use of

> my bladdsr so that I can urinate normally to void my bladder.

Using this catherer is effective

> but awfully painful and extremely inconvenient.

>

> I would appreciate all the help that anyone can offer. Please help.

>

> Regards

>

> Raj

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

If it hasn't already bewen mentioned-Waterfall-D Mannose is meant to

be good for bladder problems as are pure cranberry capsules (without

the sugar and additives). Hope this helps, Adam

> >

> > Hello Everyone,

> >

> > My name is Raj and have had MS for many years. I recently suffered

from a serious viral

> > infection which was caused by my having overflow incontinence. The

doctors have

> managed

> > to eliminate the virus completely. It was caused because I have

been holding a lot of

> water in

> > my bladder for many months due to the inability to urinate normally.

> >

> > Now I find that since they emptied my bladder using a catherer

that I am unable to pass

> urine

> > at all until the bladder reaches a FULL state. I therefore have to

keep using a catherer

> 3~4

> > times a day in order to void my bladder else it will result in a

similar infection again and

> > again.

> >

> > Do any of you have any suggestions on what I can do to

improve/activate the natural

> use of

> > my bladdsr so that I can urinate normally to void my bladder.

Using this catherer is

> effective

> > but awfully painful and extremely inconvenient.

> >

> > I would appreciate all the help that anyone can offer. Please help.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Raj

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would normally have suggested that also but if the Ambrotose did not

work it has the D-mannose in it. Perhaps the amounts were not enough to

effect a change??? The way the mannose works is blocking receptors sites

in the bladder so that bad bacteria cannot take hold. It also has many

other beneficial functions, here are a few.

* Prevents bacterial, viral, parasitic and

fungal infections

* Eases inflammation in rheumatoid arthritis

* Lupus patients are deficient in this

saccharide

* Lowers blood sugar and triglyceride levels

in diabetic patients

finnfan05 wrote:

>Hi

>

>If it hasn't already bewen mentioned-Waterfall-D Mannose is meant to

>be good for bladder problems as are pure cranberry capsules (without

>the sugar and additives). Hope this helps, Adam

>

>

>

>

>>Thank you for your response.

>>

>>I had tried Glyconutrients from Manatech in 2004. Used them for 9

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT OXYTROL PATCHES. THEY WORK FOR ME.

finnfan05 wrote: Hi

If it hasn't already bewen mentioned-Waterfall-D Mannose is meant to

be good for bladder problems as are pure cranberry capsules (without

the sugar and additives). Hope this helps, Adam

> >

> > Hello Everyone,

> >

> > My name is Raj and have had MS for many years. I recently suffered

from a serious viral

> > infection which was caused by my having overflow incontinence. The

doctors have

> managed

> > to eliminate the virus completely. It was caused because I have

been holding a lot of

> water in

> > my bladder for many months due to the inability to urinate normally.

> >

> > Now I find that since they emptied my bladder using a catherer

that I am unable to pass

> urine

> > at all until the bladder reaches a FULL state. I therefore have to

keep using a catherer

> 3~4

> > times a day in order to void my bladder else it will result in a

similar infection again and

> > again.

> >

> > Do any of you have any suggestions on what I can do to

improve/activate the natural

> use of

> > my bladdsr so that I can urinate normally to void my bladder.

Using this catherer is

> effective

> > but awfully painful and extremely inconvenient.

> >

> > I would appreciate all the help that anyone can offer. Please help.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Raj

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply

According to my last MRI of Nov 2004 I have lesions in my spine

Please advise

Raj

>

> Raj,

>

> Do you have spinal cord lesions?

>

> Ron

[Guest guest]

Raj,

Are you taking glyconutrients now? What supplements do you currently consume?

Are you on a particular diet?

Roe

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your suggestions

I will read about it and perhaps try it if it makes

sense.

God Bless You

Raj

--- finnfan05 wrote:

> Hi

>

> If it hasn't already bewen mentioned-Waterfall-D

> Mannose is meant to

> be good for bladder problems as are pure cranberry

> capsules (without

> the sugar and additives). Hope this helps, Adam

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello Everyone,

> > >

> > > My name is Raj and have had MS for many years. I

> recently suffered

> from a serious viral

> > > infection which was caused by my having overflow

> incontinence. The

> doctors have

> > managed

> > > to eliminate the virus completely. It was caused

> because I have

> been holding a lot of

> > water in

> > > my bladder for many months due to the inability

> to urinate normally.

> > >

> > > Now I find that since they emptied my bladder

> using a catherer

> that I am unable to pass

> > urine

> > > at all until the bladder reaches a FULL state. I

> therefore have to

> keep using a catherer

> > 3~4

> > > times a day in order to void my bladder else it

> will result in a

> similar infection again and

> > > again.

> > >

> > > Do any of you have any suggestions on what I can

> do to

> improve/activate the natural

> > use of

> > > my bladdsr so that I can urinate normally to

> void my bladder.

> Using this catherer is

> > effective

> > > but awfully painful and extremely inconvenient.

> > >

> > > I would appreciate all the help that anyone can

> offer. Please help.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Raj

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

Thanks for your suggestions. After checking the site of OXYTROL I found:

Who are the best candidates for OXYTROL?

OXYTROL is indicated for patients who are diagnosed with OAB with symptoms of

urge

urinary incontinence, urgency and frequency. Only your doctor can determine if

OXYTROL

is right for you.

Who should not use OXYTROL? Do not use OXYTROL if you have the following medical

conditions:

Urinary retention. Your bladder does not empty or does not empty completely when

you

urinate.

As mine is a problem of Urinary Retention I think this medication may not be

suitable for

me. Thank you anyway for your suggestion.

Regards

Raj

>

> YOU KNOW THE PILLS DID NOT WORK FOR ME SO MY DOCTOR PRESCRIBED OXYTROL

3.9 FOR ME (A PATCH( AND IT WORKS.

[Guest guest]

I TRIED THE PILLS, THEY DID NO GOOD FOR ME, SO MY DOCTOR PRSCRIBED OXYTROL

PATCH AND IT WORKS. IT CAME DOWN TO THE OXYTROL PATCH OR A DIAPER, SON YOU BET

I USE THE PATCH & IT WORKS.

Rajesh Bhojwani wrote:

Thanks for your suggestions

I will read about it and perhaps try it if it makes

sense.

God Bless You

Raj

--- finnfan05 wrote:

> Hi

>

> If it hasn't already bewen mentioned-Waterfall-D

> Mannose is meant to

> be good for bladder problems as are pure cranberry

> capsules (without

> the sugar and additives). Hope this helps, Adam

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello Everyone,

> > >

> > > My name is Raj and have had MS for many years. I

> recently suffered

> from a serious viral

> > > infection which was caused by my having overflow

> incontinence. The

> doctors have

> > managed

> > > to eliminate the virus completely. It was caused

> because I have

> been holding a lot of

> > water in

> > > my bladder for many months due to the inability

> to urinate normally.

> > >

> > > Now I find that since they emptied my bladder

> using a catherer

> that I am unable to pass

> > urine

> > > at all until the bladder reaches a FULL state. I

> therefore have to

> keep using a catherer

> > 3~4

> > > times a day in order to void my bladder else it

> will result in a

> similar infection again and

> > > again.

> > >

> > > Do any of you have any suggestions on what I can

> do to

> improve/activate the natural

> > use of

> > > my bladdsr so that I can urinate normally to

> void my bladder.

> Using this catherer is

> > effective

> > > but awfully painful and extremely inconvenient.

> > >

> > > I would appreciate all the help that anyone can

> offer. Please help.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Raj

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Dudley

Thanks for your suggestion

As with OXYTROL the ENURAID also targets incontence, but mine is a case of

Retiontion. I

cannot void my bladder. This is either due to poor bladder contraction or poor

relaxing of

the splincter muscle or both.

What I need is help to make me urinate properly as opposed to controling my

bladder to

urinate less.

Please advise.

Regards

Raj

>

>

> Hi Raj,

>

> You might consider taking Enuraid. It has helped some members of this

> group. For more information, visit

>

> http://tinyrl.com/r9xa9

>

> All the best,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

>

> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Roe,

Thanks for you email. Your comments arwe very enlightning.

In 2004 I was using Ambrotose, PLUS, Phyt-Aloe, Sport and Catalyst. At the time

I had no

one with experience who could guide me on the dosage so I took the normal doses

as

shown on the jars/bottles.

I guess you have a point that I may not have been conosuming the correct dosage

or

combination required,which perhaps let to no noticeable changes.

Would you be able to suggest what I can do??? Or tell me who I can consult with

regarding

these supplements including.

Also for clarity, did you suffer incontence due to the inability to urinate?

Retention? Please

advise.

Regards

Raj

>

> Hi Raj,

>

> I have had bladder issues since I was dx'd with MS. Most of my leisons are

in my spinal

cord as oppose to my brain. I can say that phytoserols have cured my bladder

issues. I

am taking a Mannatech product called Plus. I am currently taking 9 a day with

NO bladder

issues. I know that it is the PLUS in my particular case because when we went

on vaction

in Aug., I didn't pack enough Plus and ran out on Wed. By Friday, I was having

to go to the

bathroom every 15 mins and I mean and EMERGENCY - even if I had just gone! When

we

returned on Sunday, I loaded up on the plus and by Tuesday I didn't have a

bladder issue

again. So, for me phytoserols work miracles!

> What is in plus? Wild yam root, L-Glutamic acid, glycine, L-Lysine,

L-Arginine, Beta

Sitosterol and Ambrotose (the glyconutrient mixture). So if you didn't want to

try

Mannatech products again, perhaps supplementing with these indivually may

help???

>

> By the way, when you had tried Mannatech in 2004, how much were you taking?

Were

you working with someone that would constantly check in on you to see how your

progess

(or in your case, lack of progress) was going? Did they change your " recipe " to

meet you

needs? If you were not, that could be why it didn't work for you because when I

first

started Mannatech, it didn't work for me either and it wasn't until I starting

working with

someone that had experience and changed my suppliment intake that I noticed

changes!

>

> Roe

>

>

> ~ Roe

>

> v | The greatest gift one can give is the gift of health! v |

>

> U U U U U U

>

> ~ God is GOOD and Jesus is coming! ~

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am not familiar with LDN. What is it?

Also please note that there are many types of incontence. Mine is due to the

inability to

urinate. So my bladder fills up till full and then when full I suffer from

overflow incontence.

What I need help with is to find something that can make me urinate rather than

put a

speed breaker.

Please advise,

Regards

Raj

>

> Raj and Roe, are either one of you taking LDN? I've been on it now

> (for MS) for almost three years. I take it to prevent disease

> progression. Many people have had a lot of symptom relief, but it's

> helped me only in the area of bladder urgency. I can hold it longer

> and don't have a constant feeling of needing to go.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Roe,

I am currently taking progurt which is a probiotic foruma that I make into a

yoghurt. About

300~500 mg in yoghurt form a day. I also take Vitamin C 1000 mg and 1 Table

Spoon of EFA

(Omega 3,6,9 and other Essential Fatty Acids) per day

That's it. Please advise

Raj

>

> Raj,

>

> Are you taking glyconutrients now? What supplements do you currently

consume? Are

you on a particular diet?

>

> Roe

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie

Thanks for your email.

I do not challenge that it works for you. I am happy that you have found a

solution that can

solve your problem.

However I think that our symptoms are different, and on reading about Oxytrol,

it is advised

not to use it if one has a Retiontion problem as per my previous post.

Therefore it is probably not meant for me at this time.

Thanks for you suggestion anyhow.

Do you know of something that can help me with the retiontion problem, as I am

unable to

urinate nornmally.

Please advise

Regards

Raj

>

> I TRIED THE PILLS, THEY DID NO GOOD FOR ME, SO MY DOCTOR PRSCRIBED OXYTROL

PATCH AND IT WORKS. IT CAME DOWN TO THE OXYTROL PATCH OR A DIAPER, SON YOU BET

I USE THE PATCH & IT WORKS.

[Guest guest]

Hi Raj,

I am not sure what you would call my bladder issues. I am assuming that I was

unable to empty my bladder because I would go, and 10 minutes later I would have

to go again - but VERY little. This would happen all day long regardless of how

much liquid I would drink. Sometimes, I would feel like I had to go and would

try, but nothing came out, then like 5 mins. later it would be an urgency again

and only a little came out. It was the same feeling I had when I had my

children and they gave me the epidoral drugs.(if you are a guy you won't know

what I mean).

I had tried Mannatech products in November of 2005 and too, just took what was

on the package. It was completely ineffective and I thought it was useless. It

wasn't until I started working with someone that it became COMPLETELY effective.

I am on the " intensive program " where I take 2 tablespoons of ambrotose per day,

9-10 plus per day, the phytomatrix, catalsyt, gi-pro (probiotic) and cleanse

product per day (I cleanse 4 times per year). I also take Flax seed oil for

EFA.

I would advice against taking large doses of Vitamin C - UNLESS it is from a

whole food source. Asorbic acid is NOT vitamin C. We do NOT absorb isolated or

synthetic vitamins, so unless it is whole food - it is a waste of money.

I would be happy to work with you on the Mannatech recipe, if you are

interested in trying it again. I KNOW it works as I have ran out - and all my

symptoms promptly returned.

Best Regards,

Roe

~ Roe

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[Guest guest]

I WEAR A PATCH CALLED OXYTROL FOR MY URINE PROBLEMS BECAUSE A DIAPER IS

EMBARACING. CHECK IT OUT WITH YOUR DOCTOR.

Roe wrote: Hi Raj,

I am not sure what you would call my bladder issues. I am assuming that I was

unable to empty my bladder because I would go, and 10 minutes later I would have

to go again - but VERY little. This would happen all day long regardless of how

much liquid I would drink. Sometimes, I would feel like I had to go and would

try, but nothing came out, then like 5 mins. later it would be an urgency again

and only a little came out. It was the same feeling I had when I had my children

and they gave me the epidoral drugs.(if you are a guy you won't know what I

mean).

I had tried Mannatech products in November of 2005 and too, just took what was

on the package. It was completely ineffective and I thought it was useless. It

wasn't until I started working with someone that it became COMPLETELY effective.

I am on the " intensive program " where I take 2 tablespoons of ambrotose per day,

9-10 plus per day, the phytomatrix, catalsyt, gi-pro (probiotic) and cleanse

product per day (I cleanse 4 times per year). I also take Flax seed oil for EFA.

I would advice against taking large doses of Vitamin C - UNLESS it is from a

whole food source. Asorbic acid is NOT vitamin C. We do NOT absorb isolated or

synthetic vitamins, so unless it is whole food - it is a waste of money.

I would be happy to work with you on the Mannatech recipe, if you are interested

in trying it again. I KNOW it works as I have ran out - and all my symptoms

promptly returned.

Best Regards,

Roe

~ Roe

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U U U U U U

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USRF - Oxytrol Patch Approved by FDA for Overactive Bladder

bhojwanirajesh wrote: Hi ,

I am not familiar with LDN. What is it?

Also please note that there are many types of incontence. Mine is due to the

inability to

urinate. So my bladder fills up till full and then when full I suffer from

overflow incontence.

What I need help with is to find something that can make me urinate rather than

put a

speed breaker.

Please advise,

Regards

Raj

>

> Raj and Roe, are either one of you taking LDN? I've been on it now

> (for MS) for almost three years. I take it to prevent disease

> progression. Many people have had a lot of symptom relief, but it's

> helped me only in the area of bladder urgency. I can hold it longer

> and don't have a constant feeling of needing to go.

>

>

>

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USRF - Oxytrol Patch Approved by FDA for Overactive Bladder

bhojwanirajesh wrote: Hi Dudley

Thanks for your suggestion

As with OXYTROL the ENURAID also targets incontence, but mine is a case of

Retiontion. I

cannot void my bladder. This is either due to poor bladder contraction or poor

relaxing of

the splincter muscle or both.

What I need is help to make me urinate properly as opposed to controling my

bladder to

urinate less.

Please advise.

Regards

Raj

>

>

> Hi Raj,

>

> You might consider taking Enuraid. It has helped some members of this

> group. For more information, visit

>

> http://tinyrl.com/r9xa9

>

> All the best,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

>

> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dudley

Thanks for your suggestion

My urologist has asked me not to perform this technique as it along with

possibly

releasing more fluid from the bladder also increases the pressure inside which

travels

upwards from bladder to ureters to kidneys.

He was primarily concerned with my kidney function and therefore asked me to

avoid this

technique.

Please advise

Regards, Raj

>

>

> Hi Raj,

>

> When you finish voiding your bladder, may I suggest that you walk around

> for a while and then come back to the toilet and try again, this time

> rhythmically pressing into your lower abdomen to squeeze more urine out

> and to stimulate bladder contrations.

>

> Hope that helps!

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Dudley

>

>

> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Roe,

I am very interested to know more about how you can

assist me to regain the use of my bladder functioning.

Please advise where do we start?

Look forward to your reply

Regards, Raj

--- Roe wrote:

> Raj et all,

>

> I have SOLVED my bladder issues with PLUS. I do not

> need drugs, I

> do not need to do a self check and cathiter and I do

> not need a

> diaper- I am 100% fine and problem free with PLUS.

> Raj, I

> understand your issue, I haven't had it quite to

> that extent, but I

> think Plus would help you as well. That is all I

> can say - I cannot

> speak for drugs or LDN. It think getting on a good

> glyconutrient

> program will help you...it has been miraculous for

> me. If you work

> with someone (I can help), to get the right program

> and stick with

> it....your body may heal itself.

>

> Roe

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie and ,

I agree with a drug is a drug.

But more specifically for my case it is not overactive bladder. It is the

opposite. (Underactive

Bladder or Retension in Bladder) And the people who make Oxytrol clearly state

on their site

clearly state it should not be used by people with retension problems.

So what is the basis to suggest this mode of treatment for my condition?

Please advise?

Regards, Raj

Hi ,

[Guest guest]

Hi Raj,

Hyberbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) is supposed to be good for bladder

issues. For more information, visit

http://www.hbotreatment.com/ms.htm

I believe, however, that your best bet--instead of trying to treat this

or that symptom--is to keep looking among alternative MS treatments to

see which ones work for you, e.g., bee stings, the Prokarin Patch, LDN,

colloidal silver, etc. Whatever is effective in treating your MS is also

going to be effective in eliminating your urinary retention problems.

If you haven't already done so, please read my open letter to MSers at

http://tinyurl.com/grpm9

I think it contains some pretty good advice.

All the best,

Dudley

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

[Guest guest]

Hi Raj,

Hyberbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) is supposed to be good for bladder

issues. For more information, visit

http://www.hbotreatment.com/ms.htm

I believe, however, that your best bet--instead of trying to treat this

or that symptom--is to keep looking among alternative MS treatments to

see which ones work for you, e.g., bee stings, the Prokarin Patch, LDN,

colloidal silver, etc. Whatever is effective in treating your MS is also

going to be effective in eliminating your urinary retention problems.

If you haven't already done so, please read my open letter to MSers at

http://tinyurl.com/grpm9

I think it contains some pretty good advice.

All the best,

Dudley

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany