Re: Can I Mix T3 and Thyroid-S/Hair Loss

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5. At the time I switched, my FT3 level was 830 (230 - 420), and my RT3

was 34 (11 - 32), so I think that means my ratio would have been 24.4,

but I don't know what that means?

What was your FT4? HYPERTHYROID will make your hair fall out in gobs too

an dthis suggest you were VERY hyperthyroid. And the symptms of hyper

are alomst the same as hypo. Fatigue and some even inability to lose

weight. I suspect you might have been able to just lower the Thyriod-S

and your RT3 might have gone down on it's own. What do your temps and

plse look like? YES high T3 will cause high SHBG and I have heard

something about thatmaking hair fall out as it also binds the sex

hormones and testosterone and estrogne play a huge rolein hair growth

and health.

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[Guest guest]

Well, for some reason, the doctor didn't do FT4. But even though my

FT3 was so high, my hair was the best in years and stayed that way

until after I changed over to Ti-Tre. I have been through this

before, where making a change in thyroid meds causes hair loss. You

say I might have been able to lower the Thyroid-S, but do you think

it's possible my low cortisol was also keeping the thyroid hormone

from getting into the cells? So it was like floating around in the

blood? I could be wrong, I don't know that much about this? My RT3

didn't look that high at 34 (11 - 32), so is that why you are saying

maybe I could have lowered the Thyroid-S? Thing is, I was on Thyroid-

S for over three years, and never could lose one ounce of weight.

So, I guess something was going on? Being on Ti-Tre is the first

time I can keep my weight down, so does it mean that it's working

better for me? Can I get your opinion on that?

Could I mix Ti-Tre with Thyroid-S to try and stop losing all this

hair?

Can I get a regular blood test for estrogen to see about the SHBG,

will that tell me anything? Or do I have to get a SHBG test?

Thanks, Val!

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> 5. At the time I switched, my FT3 level was 830 (230 - 420), and

my RT3

> was 34 (11 - 32), so I think that means my ratio would have been

24.4,

> but I don't know what that means?

>

> What was your FT4? HYPERTHYROID will make your hair fall out in

gobs too

> an dthis suggest you were VERY hyperthyroid. And the symptms of

hyper

> are alomst the same as hypo. Fatigue and some even inability to

lose

> weight. I suspect you might have been able to just lower the

Thyriod-S

> and your RT3 might have gone down on it's own. What do your temps

and

> plse look like? YES high T3 will cause high SHBG and I have heard

> something about thatmaking hair fall out as it also binds the sex

> hormones and testosterone and estrogne play a huge rolein hair

growth

> and health.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

[Guest guest]

High SHBG will cause hair loss as it has with me. Binding up too much T and E is the reason alright. Not good.AG YES high T3 will cause high SHBG and I have heard something about thatmaking hair fall out as it also binds the sex hormones and testosterone and estrogne play a huge rolein hair growth and health.Val

[Guest guest]

> When you say hair loss are you referring to just head hair? I have

>not shaved my legs since the end of Oct.

Same here. Happened since the RT3 problem hit. I thought it was a

hypoth symptom. But my eyelashes are hanging in.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Am I to assume that if I had a level of FT3 that was 830 (230 - 420) this past summer and my hair was absolutely fantastic, then I am in the clear? I would think if ever there was a time for my body to increase SHBG and bind T and E, it would be when my FT3 level was through the roof.

Val, do you agree?

[Guest guest]

Val, do you think I should try mixing the two like you did? It sounds like it worked out great! The only difference being, I am not taking HC or Isocort anymore. I am on 100 mcg., so let's say if I exchanged out two 20 mcg. tabs of T3 for two one-grain tabs of Thyroid-S . . . do you think being that my adrenals aren't in the greatest shape, that I am taking a chance of increasing my RT3 all over again? It was just over the top of the range the last time at 34 (11 - 32). Hard to believe 34 would cause such havoc, like my FT3 level being 830 (230 - 420). Maybe with bad adrenals, it could?

[Guest guest]

And, what do we do about too much DHT??

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> The other thing about high SHBG with low T is that the little bit of T

> available converts to DHT as a way of maximizing it for the bodies

> use. So if SHBG is too high and you add more T it's more likely to be

> acted upon by the 5AR enzyme and turn it into even more DHT. The

> higher my SHBG went, the lower my T went, the more chin hairs I had!

> Chin hairs are usually DHT driven.

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> AG

[Guest guest]

Best thing is to have optimal T levels so less goes to DHT. And keeping estrogen up. Estrogen blocks it. For some women P also blocks DHT. Too low and too high thyroid also can cause an issue. Women don't tend to do well with Saw Palmetto as a rule. It does something to E. There is only one woman I have heard from who says this works for her. For me, after having tried everything, including spironolactone and propecia, etc., etc., estrogen works the best in keeping the DHT in check. P never worked for me as it made it worse presumably from taking an androgen pathway itself. You just have to figure out what would be causing the abundance of it with yourself. AGAnd, what do we do about too much DHT??->> The other thing about high SHBG with low T is that the little bit of T > available converts to DHT as a way of maximizing it for the bodies > use. So if SHBG is too high and you add more T it's more likely to be > acted upon by the 5AR enzyme and turn it into even more DHT. The > higher my SHBG went, the lower my T went, the more chin hairs I had! > Chin hairs are usually DHT driven.> > AG

[Guest guest]

Hi AG!

Well, I have had chin hairs for a very long time. Hate it, have very

sensitive skin, so have to pluck (and pluck...). I am 48, and have

RT3, so hormones are wacking out. Cycles from 2 weeks to 6 weeks.

And, I am pretty sure I have periods of estrogen dominance. So,

supplementing with estrogen would put me even higher during those

periods. Cycles were like clockwork until about 6 months ago, pretty

convinced that thyroid problems are the cause... But even when cycles

were regular and thyroid pretty good, had the chin hairs (and cute

mustache.... )

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> > The other thing about high SHBG with low T is that the little bit

> of T

> > available converts to DHT as a way of maximizing it for the bodies

> > use. So if SHBG is too high and you add more T it's more likely to be

> > acted upon by the 5AR enzyme and turn it into even more DHT. The

> > higher my SHBG went, the lower my T went, the more chin hairs I had!

> > Chin hairs are usually DHT driven.

> >

> > AG

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