Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I am currently on t3 working my way up to a therapuetic dose. I went on it due to high rt3. Just wondering what is the motivation for switching back to armour if t3 works? seems like I've read several posts recently of people making this switch. Is it just a cost issue or are there health concerns? Any reason I shouldnt just stay on the t3 if it works for me? I am fortunate that I have insurance that covers it. I am currently on 125 mcg and think I need to raise further. I'm a little concerned about being on such a high dose but my pulse and bp are fine. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 My impetus for switching back to Armoru was twofold. First the cost. All my meds are out of pocket and T3 is very expensive, and next CAALCITONIN which I feel we with hyopthyroidism do need. Again yo can get a script for jst calcitonin but I coul dnot afford it. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Thanks , Does 125 mg seem like a high dose? I think I need to go even higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 It is a bit high but some have to go a bit higher to open the receptors. Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'm in the process of switching back over to armour. My main motivation was a very high SHBG caused from the high T3. It was 250 or so. (average is 90 or so). I noticed a lot of menopausal sx arriving back when I optimized on T3. (125 or so). Night sweats, moodiness, sallow skin, stopped sleeping well, weakness, muscle loss, angst and depression, none of which were hypo/hyper sx. I played up and down with T3 doses and finally got tested to see what was going on. The high SHBG was binding my estrogen and testosterone even though I replace them. Pre T3 my T was 55 with a free of 1.8. It bottomed out to an unmeasurable amount serum wise. I did not think I would ever go through a switch back once on T3. Right now I feel much better and I am half way traded out. AGI am currently on t3 working my way up to a therapuetic dose. I went on it due to high rt3. Just wondering what is the motivation for switching back to armour if t3 works? seems like I've read several posts recently of people making this switch. Is it just a cost issue or are there health concerns? Any reason I shouldnt just stay on the t3 if it works for me? I am fortunate that I have insurance that covers it. I am currently on 125 mcg and think I need to raise further. I'm a little concerned about being on such a high dose but my pulse and bp are fine. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Interesting...so in hindste do you think it may have been avoided had you just stayed at a lower dose like 100 or so? Subject: Re:why switch back to armour from t3?To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:05 PM I'm in the process of switching back over to armour. My main motivation was a very high SHBG caused from the high T3. It was 250 or so. (average is 90 or so). I noticed a lot of menopausal sx arriving back when I optimized on T3. (125 or so). Night sweats, moodiness, sallow skin, stopped sleeping well, weakness, muscle loss, angst and depression, none of which were hypo/hyper sx. I played up and down with T3 doses and finally got tested to see what was going on. The high SHBG was binding my estrogen and testosterone even though I replace them. Pre T3 my T was 55 with a free of 1.8. It bottomed out to an unmeasurable amount serum wise. I did not think I would ever go through a switch back once on T3. Right now I feel much better and I am half way traded out. AG I am currently on t3 working my way up to a therapuetic dose. I went on it due to high rt3. Just wondering what is the motivation for switching back to armour if t3 works? seems like I've read several posts recently of people making this switch. Is it just a cost issue or are there health concerns? Any reason I shouldnt just stay on the t3 if it works for me? I am fortunate that I have insurance that covers it. I am currently on 125 mcg and think I need to raise further. I'm a little concerned about being on such a high dose but my pulse and bp are fine. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 .. Thanks. What is SHBG? Sounds like something I should monitor. Anything else I should keep an eye on while on the t3? I have cleared out the RT3. Does that mean if I went back on the armour it might work better than when I was on it with high RT3? I'm in the process of switching back over to armour. My main motivation was a very high SHBG caused from the high T3. It was 250 or so. (average is 90 or so). I noticed a lot of menopausal sx arriving back when I optimized on T3. (125 or so). Night sweats, moodiness, sallow skin, stopped sleeping well, weakness, muscle loss, angst and depression, none of which were hypo/hyper sx. I played up and down with T3 doses and finally got tested to see what was going on. The high SHBG was binding my estrogen and testosterone even though I replace them. Pre T3 my T was 55 with a free of 1.8. It bottomed out to an unmeasurable amount serum wise. I did not think I would ever go through a switch back once on T3. Right now I feel much better and I am half way traded out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 SHBG is sex hormone binding globulin. It tends to go high when estrogen is high or when T3 is high. It BINDS both those hormones thus lowering the FREE levels of each. When switching back to Armoru ione important question needs to be answered. Have you found and corrected the initial cause of your highRT3? If you haven't it is very likely to return as soon as your T4 levels start to rise, even into their normal levels. Low or especially HIGH cortils will cause this, as will ferritin issues. these things MUST be corrected for Armoru to work properly again. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Don't know. Was hypo at 100 so couldn't stay there. AGRe: why switch back to armour from t3?Posted by: "Leisa Forman" leisamelanie@... leisamelanieThu Jan 22, 2009 3:12 pm (PST)Interesting...so in hindste do you think it may have been avoided had you just stayed at a lower dose like 100 or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 what causes low shbg? and high testo Subject: Re: Re:why switch back to armour from t3?To: RT3_T3 Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 7:05 AM SHBG is sex hormone binding globulin. It tends to go high when estrogen is high or when T3 is high. It BINDS both those hormones thus lowering the FREE levels of each. When switching back to Armoru ione important question needs to be answered. Have you found and corrected the initial cause of your highRT3? If you haven't it is very likely to return as soon as your T4 levels start to rise, even into their normal levels. Low or especially HIGH cortils will cause this, as will ferritin issues. these things MUST be corrected for Armoru to work properly again.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I don't knwo but possibly the opposite of things that cause it to go hihg. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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