Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Never heard of this but maybe they were giving that to him to get him to throw up??? Holly ) In a message dated 5/1/01 7:20:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dlvernon@... writes: << This kid drank 8-10 ounces of de-icer and then tried to set himself on fire to get rid of a pain in his ear. He went to an outside ER where they gave him beer and three shots of vodka???? This is what this ER doc dictates. What in the heck would they be giving him alcohol for?? Is this some funky treatment I've never heard of? Diane >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 , It has been years since I have heard of this, but I have heard of it before. I can't remember exactly what the alcohol is given for, but I believe it does something to slow down the metabolism of the de-icer. Sorry I can't be more specific about this, but as I said it has been years, but I have heard of alcohol being given for this kind of problem. margaret >>> Diane 05/01/01 01:43PM >>> This kid drank 8-10 ounces of de-icer and then tried to set himself on fire to get rid of a pain in his ear. He went to an outside ER where they gave him beer and three shots of vodka???? This is what this ER doc dictates. What in the heck would they be giving him alcohol for?? Is this some funky treatment I've never heard of? Diane TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Did a search on Google for poisoning and de-icer and I found this at: http://www.sadap.org.za/edl/adult/15.5.asp Poison: Anti freeze - windshield de-icer ethylene (ethylene glycol and diethylene glycol) Management: Supportive, gastric lavage if early, followed by charcoal and a cathartic. Ethyl alcohol if ethylene glycol level greater than 20 mg/dL or severe metabolic acidosis. PLUS Thiamine, IV, 100 mg per dialysis per day. Seems alcohol can be used as an antidote. Could someone explain this please?? > This kid drank 8-10 ounces of de-icer and then tried to set himself on fire > to get rid of a pain in his ear. He went to an outside ER where they gave > him beer and three shots of vodka???? This is what this ER doc dictates. > > What in the heck would they be giving him alcohol for?? Is this some funky > treatment I've never heard of? > > Diane > > > > TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe > > PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 I have no idea, but I can't wait to see some of the responses!!! **ellen** Waiting for CAI final exam - Got it and working on it. :-) 35 - NV - wife to since 10/31/98 proud mom to 10/25/99, with a broken leg of unknown etiology. :-( weinberg@... Could someone explain this please?? This kid drank 8-10 ounces of de-icer and then tried to set himself on fire to get rid of a pain in his ear. He went to an outside ER where they gave him beer and three shots of vodka???? This is what this ER doc dictates. What in the heck would they be giving him alcohol for?? Is this some funky treatment I've never heard of? Diane --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.249 / Virus Database: 122 - Release Date: 04/13/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 No way, Are they playing games with you? Aliceanne On Tue, 01 May 2001 12:43:59 -0500 Diane writes: > This kid drank 8-10 ounces of de-icer and then tried to set himself > on fire > to get rid of a pain in his ear. He went to an outside ER where > they gave > him beer and three shots of vodka???? This is what this ER doc > dictates. > > What in the heck would they be giving him alcohol for?? Is this > some funky > treatment I've never heard of? > > Diane > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 In a message dated 05-01-01 7:20:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dlvernon@... writes: << This kid drank 8-10 ounces of de-icer and then tried to set himself on fire to get rid of a pain in his ear. He went to an outside ER where they gave him beer and three shots of vodka???? This is what this ER doc dictates. What in the heck would they be giving him alcohol for?? Is this some funky treatment I've never heard of? >> If I remember correctly alcohol helps the body break down the deicer because of what the chemical compound of what is in deicer, although I can't remember off the top of my head what that is. Alcohol has also been used to slow down a woman's labor or stop it all together, although I don't hear that very often. Hope this helps Jan " Typing is my life " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Yes--Grain alcohol is the (only) treatment of choice for antifreeze poisoning (and de-icer would have a low quantity of ethylene glycol in it, so it would be 'dilute' antifreeze)--at the vet's, we give Gemclear (180 proof) IV (can't get a dog to drink that!) for about three days, if they make it--don't know about the beer though--maybe to dilute what was in his stomach for slowing absorption? -lava At 06:46 PM 5/1/01 -0400, you wrote: >Did a search on Google for poisoning and de-icer and I found this at: > >http://www.sadap.org.za/edl/adult/15.5.asp > >Poison: Anti freeze - windshield de-icer ethylene (ethylene glycol and >diethylene glycol) > >Management: Supportive, gastric lavage if early, followed by charcoal and a >cathartic. >Ethyl alcohol if ethylene glycol level greater than 20 mg/dL or severe >metabolic acidosis. PLUS Thiamine, IV, 100 mg per dialysis per day. > >Seems alcohol can be used as an antidote. > > > Could someone explain this please?? > > >> This kid drank 8-10 ounces of de-icer and then tried to set himself on >fire >> to get rid of a pain in his ear. He went to an outside ER where they gave >> him beer and three shots of vodka???? This is what this ER doc dictates. >> >> What in the heck would they be giving him alcohol for?? Is this some >funky >> treatment I've never heard of? >> >> Diane >> >> >> >> TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe >> >> PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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