Re: oprah-Jen's notes from Dr. Lowes consult

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing this info. How did he recommend dosing cytomel?

>

> Hey There,

>

> Learned so much. Here is all my notes- so much to share. We are

going to get to the bottom of this! Let me know what you think

>

>

> Notes

> 1. May need to change HC dose and increase (I currently have 7

symptoms of low cortisol/adrenal problems.)

> 2. Suggests taking a large enough does of HC (like 30-40) for a

period of 2-3 months to allow the adrenals to heal so that I can back

off of it completely.

> -30 or 40 HC is not enough to stop the adrenals from working, yet

would be enough to allow for them to heal and begin working on their own

> -Cortisol turns into Cortisone, and I have a Cortisone deficiency

> 3. It is good that I am on HC and not Isocourt since I had my

gallbladder out, HC is better for this.

>

> Aldosterone:

> -Aldesterone test results can go up if you stand up.

> -There is a connection with rennin which turns into aldesterone =

balance of salt and water. I could currently have an issue with this,

but the rennin could be affected by not enough Cortisol.

>

> HIGH PULSE

> 4. 75-100 mcg of Cytomel is a normal dose.

> 5. Due to my T3 being too low, it could be interacting with another

system (i.e. Sympathetic Nervous System) and causing the high pulse

> 6. Another issue could be periods of Hypoglycemia which cause a dip

in blood sugar leading to a jump in pulse that looks like a high pulse

at all times (Blood Sugar Regulation issues can cause rapid pulse rates.)

> 7. Regarding your Sympathetic Nervous Symptom, when your blood

sugar dips down you can then release more adrenaline.

>

> Suggestions based on symptoms w/o testing:

> 8. Rehab Cortisol- due to symptoms persisting I have sub-optimal

cortisol levels

> 9. Might only need to go up to 30-40 of HC, wants to do test first

and then with doctors permission increase to 30 HC --> once this is

done [at optimal dose] I stay on for 2-3 months and then wean off

entirely once healed.

> 10. Will use systematic monitoring:

> * Basel Body temp- under armpit in the morning prior to getting out

of bed

> * BP and Pulse taken at same time of Temp

> * Weight

> * Symptom's intensity

> 11. Will need to increase Cytomel. (Normal dose 75-100, not based

on body type or weight.) Lack of enough thyroid will cause high pulse.

Need to eliminate all symptoms.

> 12. Hives- caused by too many mast cells=allergy. Normally goes

away when on right dose of thyroid.

> 13. Anemia-Caused by Hypothyroidism and meds can regulate this.

Oxygen used by cells is usually low & when you take enough T3, bone

marrow produces red blood cells and you need less iron!

> 14. Migraine/Headaches- caused by low progesterone often. The DHEA

can be increasing progesterone in me causing headaches to go away.

>

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> 15.

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> Landscape for next couple of weeks:

> 16. Increase HC to 30mg ---> Stabilize Blood Sugar ---> Pulse

should lower in a few days (if HC dose is correct)

> 17. In 1 to 2 weeks see how this works and then begin increasing

Cytomel. (You will typically do 3 assessments per week and you can

tell if you should be more modest or aggressive in increasing Cytomel.

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> To: RT3_T3

> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 6:01:12 PM

> Subject: Re: oprah

>

>

> Jen, what did you learn from Lowe? How about the high HR, what did

he say? So happy to read that you consulted with him. He's eloquent,

kind, intelligent and knowledgeable. Such a good move you made here.

>

> AG

>

>

> -As of this morning, I am greatful for Dr. Lowe, who shared more

info in 2 hrs on the phone w/me, than any doc in 30 yrs of life...I

highly recomend him if you are still struggling. He was brilliant today.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the overview of your Lowe consult Jen. Looks like you got a direction to follow here. What were your low cortisol sx that you mention? Looking forward to hearing how well you are doing with your changes. Lowe talked to me about hypoglycemia too. I started to take my bs to see what I could discover. Also doing the severity sx scale he advocates. AGHey There,Learned so much. Here is all my notes- so much to share. We are going to get to the bottom of this! Let me know what you think Notes1. May need to change HC dose and increase (I currently have 7 symptoms of low cortisol/adrenal problems.)2. Suggests taking a large enough does of HC (like 30-40) for a period of 2-3 months to allow the adrenals to heal so that I can back off of it completely.-30 or 40 HC is not enough to stop the adrenals from working, yet would be enough to allow for them to heal and begin working on their own-Cortisol turns into Cortisone, and I have a Cortisone deficiency3. It is good that I am on HC and not Isocourt since I had my gallbladder out, HC is better for this. Aldosterone:-Aldesterone test results can go up if you stand up. -There is a connection with rennin which turns into aldesterone = balance of salt and water. I could currently have an issue with this, but the rennin could be affected by not enough Cortisol. HIGH PULSE4. 75-100 mcg of Cytomel is a normal dose.5. Due to my T3 being too low, it could be interacting with another system (i.e. Sympathetic Nervous System) and causing the high pulse6. Another issue could be periods of Hypoglycemia which cause a dip in blood sugar leading to a jump in pulse that looks like a high pulse at all times (Blood Sugar Regulation issues can cause rapid pulse rates.)7. Regarding your Sympathetic Nervous Symptom, when your blood sugar dips down you can then release more adrenaline. Suggestions based on symptoms w/o testing:8. Rehab Cortisol- due to symptoms persisting I have sub-optimal cortisol levels9. Might only need to go up to 30-40 of HC, wants to do test first and then with doctors permission increase to 30 HC --> once this is done [at optimal dose] I stay on for 2-3 months and then wean off entirely once healed.10. Will use systematic monitoring:* Basel Body temp- under armpit in the morning prior to getting out of bed* BP and Pulse taken at same time of Temp* Weight* Symptom's intensity11. Will need to increase Cytomel. (Normal dose 75-100, not based on body type or weight.) Lack of enough thyroid will cause high pulse. Need to eliminate all symptoms.12. Hives- caused by too many mast cells=allergy. Normally goes away when on right dose of thyroid.13. Anemia-Caused by Hypothyroidism and meds can regulate this. Oxygen used by cells is usually low & when you take enough T3, bone marrow produces red blood cells and you need less iron!14. Migraine/Headaches- caused by low progesterone often. The DHEA can be increasing progesterone in me causing headaches to go away. 15. Landscape for next couple of weeks:16. Increase HC to 30mg ---> Stabilize Blood Sugar ---> Pulse should lower in a few days (if HC dose is correct)17. In 1 to 2 weeks see how this works and then begin increasing Cytomel. (You will typically do 3 assessments per week and you can tell if you should be more modest or aggressive in increasing Cytomel.

[Guest guest]

Leisa-

Your symptoms strongly suggest low cortisol. Your doctor is lost.

Waking up in the night is low cortisol, especially since iscort put

you back to sleep. I told a doc. once that I couldn't sleep w/o a

bedtime cortisol dose and he said the body doesn't work like that.

Huh? What? It's just terrible trying to find someone to help. Have

you found any D.O.'s to be useful, they seem to be better at working

with the patient.

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> From: Atlanta Girl <growinghair@ bellsouth. net>

> Subject: Re: oprah-Jen's notes from Dr. Lowes consult

> To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 1:59 PM

>

>

>

> Thanks for the overview of your Lowe consult Jen. Looks like you

got a direction to follow here. What were your low cortisol sx that

you mention? Looking forward to hearing how well you are doing with

your changes. Lowe talked to me about hypoglycemia too. I started to

take my bs to see what I could discover. Also doing the severity sx

scale he advocates.

>

>

> AG

>

>

>

> Hey There,

>

> Learned so much. Here is all my notes- so much to share. We are

going to get to the bottom of this! Let me know what you think

>

>

> Notes

> 1. May need to change HC dose and increase (I currently have 7

symptoms of low cortisol/adrenal problems.)

> 2. Suggests taking a large enough does of HC (like 30-40) for a

period of 2-3 months to allow the adrenals to heal so that I can back

off of it completely.

> -30 or 40 HC is not enough to stop the adrenals from working, yet

would be enough to allow for them to heal and begin working on their own

> -Cortisol turns into Cortisone, and I have a Cortisone deficiency

> 3. It is good that I am on HC and not Isocourt since I had my

gallbladder out, HC is better for this.

>

> Aldosterone:

> -Aldesterone test results can go up if you stand up.

> -There is a connection with rennin which turns into aldesterone =

balance of salt and water. I could currently have an issue with this,

but the rennin could be affected by not enough Cortisol.

>

> HIGH PULSE

> 4. 75-100 mcg of Cytomel is a normal dose.

> 5. Due to my T3 being too low, it could be interacting with another

system (i.e. Sympathetic Nervous System) and causing the high pulse

> 6. Another issue could be periods of Hypoglycemia which cause a dip

in blood sugar leading to a jump in pulse that looks like a high pulse

at all times (Blood Sugar Regulation issues can cause rapid pulse rates.)

> 7. Regarding your Sympathetic Nervous Symptom, when your blood sugar

dips down you can then release more adrenaline.

>

> Suggestions based on symptoms w/o testing:

> 8. Rehab Cortisol- due to symptoms persisting I have sub-optimal

cortisol levels

> 9. Might only need to go up to 30-40 of HC, wants to do test first

and then with doctors permission increase to 30 HC --> once this is

done [at optimal dose] I stay on for 2-3 months and then wean off

entirely once healed.

> 10. Will use systematic monitoring:

> * Basel Body temp- under armpit in the morning prior to getting out

of bed

> * BP and Pulse taken at same time of Temp

> * Weight

> * Symptom's intensity

> 11. Will need to increase Cytomel. (Normal dose 75-100, not based on

body type or weight.) Lack of enough thyroid will cause high pulse.

Need to eliminate all symptoms.

> 12. Hives- caused by too many mast cells=allergy. Normally goes away

when on right dose of thyroid.

> 13. Anemia-Caused by Hypothyroidism and meds can regulate this.

Oxygen used by cells is usually low & when you take enough T3, bone

marrow produces red blood cells and you need less iron!

> 14. Migraine/Headaches- caused by low progesterone often. The DHEA

can be increasing progesterone in me causing headaches to go away.

>

>

> 15.

>

>

> Landscape for next couple of weeks:

> 16. Increase HC to 30mg ---> Stabilize Blood Sugar ---> Pulse

should lower in a few days (if HC dose is correct)

> 17. In 1 to 2 weeks see how this works and then begin increasing

Cytomel. (You will typically do 3 assessments per week and you can

tell if you should be more modest or aggressive in increasing Cytomel.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>..... Im very hurt and angry..but I absolutely MUST hide it, as I

need >to get the proper dose of t3 and if possible hc.

I decided it was cheaper to buy my own HC and T3 rather than waste

time and money on clueless jerks who won't help.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

> They actually go to osteopathic medical school, not the regular

>standard medical school that all the numb nuts go to.

Yeah, but they sold out on their philosophy when they started teaching

how to use patent medicines so they could get in on the insurance

(evil) empire.

Dorothy