Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Hi Terry, Laurel and all: Allan is spot on. Past posts have indicated the fact that proton treatment at LLUMC conforms to the gland with an approximate 5 mm " margin. " When the cancer is more advanced, a combo of photon and protons is used to expand to the pelvic bed, and sometimes with ADT as a supplement. Just to echo Laurel's statement that Loma University Medical Center should not be thought of as just a proton center, all should recognize that almost every facet of medical and dental practice and research is done there. It is where the very first infant heart transplant in the world was done; the current Heart Transplant Unit has one of best (and fastest responding) teams anywhere, and the LLUMC Children's Hospital is recognized as one of the finest in the world. To answer someone's question, the LLUMC proton protocol has been and is still being improved. There have been many improvements since the unit first started in late 1990. Using the LLUMC techniques and protocol, rectal toxicity is minimal and urinary toxicity is almost non-existent. I completed my proton treatment in March of 2007, (protons only with Lupron as additive)and I like many others have experienced no rectal or urinary problems. And Terry, about forty different forms of cancer are being treated with protons, not just prostate cancer. Many of these are what may be termed " high grade " cancers. " LLUCI investigators are developing innovative in-house proton-beam treatment for various cancers and benign diseases, such as acoustic neuroma, meningioma, and arteriovenous malformations of the brain. " But protons are not the only cancer treatment being done, as Laurel said. They do surgery and also have the robotic systems for prostate cancer. And in addition there is a constant and ongoing cancer research effort. In addition to the Proton Center, there is a completely separate Cancer Research Center: " Medical oncologists, radiation oncologists, and oncologic surgeons develop multidisciplinary plans for the treatment of various types of cancer, including those of the breast, prostate, lung, head and neck, GI tract, female genital tract, skin (melanoma), and other body sites. " Best to all, Fuller > ... > > The one negative reported was an increase in rectal > > toxicity in higher-grade tumours. Perhaps these men > > should not have been radiated at all? > ... > > I'm certainly no expert, but I would think that the higher > rectal toxicity could only be caused by delivering more > radiation to the rectum. > > I presume that, when the patient has a higher grade tumor, > the radiation oncologists will expand the radiation delivery > field and the amount of radiation delivered to that expanded > field. The decision to do that is probably independent > of whether protons or photons are used, though as another > poster pointed out, it may be that photons are used for this > expanded field even when protons are used on the prostate > itself. > > What to do in these situations is a tough call. From the > numbers given (61.4% vs. 80.4% PSA failure rates), it > appears that one can significantly improve the chances for > a cure by accepting the higher risk of toxicity. In the > lower risk cases, the higher toxicity is probably not needed. > In the higher risk cases, it may become a more acceptable > risk. > > Curiously, I'll bet that most radiation oncologists never > discuss these issues with their patients. They make the > decision for the patient based on their own idea about what > is best. > > Alan > > Alan Meyer > ameyer2@... > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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