Guest guest Posted December 7, 2000 Report Share Posted December 7, 2000 , You should know that starches and sugars are composed of glucose molecules, they are quickly released by digestion, that is why we don't overindulge in them, but you do what you want. Sam Re: (was: WOW etc.) > > > GayRghts@... wrote: > > > IF you want to change this group to low carb -diabetics please let me know, > > and i'll go find a group that is just diabetics.... of all kinds. > > Its not that i dont agree with some of what you say, and its not that i dont > > agree that there is a place for low carbing in diabetic teaching, but i'm > > sure its not the only way to go.... > > > > Who runs this group? I guessed that it would be Teri cuz she has the web > > site, but maybe i'm wrong... but i didnt know that it was you Susie even > > though you do a lot of people service by telling them about low carbing... > > and i appreciate the suggestions but not when you are gonna tell others to > > leave the group etc cuz they dont agree with you... > > > > > Very well put . > > -- > Dave - 9:37:28 PM > T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose > - > Davors Daily Aphorism: > Best diet: Eat as much as you want, but don't swallow it. > -- > Visit my HomePage: > http://dorcutt.homepage.com > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 > If someone disagrees with something and has > proof to back it up let them present the > proof and debunk what is wrong. The problem is that neither position can be actually proven, Don, in my opinion, certainly not in e-mails nor do I even want to prove anybody wrong or " debunk " anything. I just want to ensure that both sides of the discussion get expressed. Unfortunately, merely putting forward reasoning for the other side of the story is considered to be argumentative, but I don't see why. In the past, I have posted references to peer-reviewed study reports in English to support all my views. I would like you to tell me what more I can do. I agree with your implied preference for objective postings. My experience to date has been that objective reasoning in favor of the nutritional plan that I favor has been met with subjective criticism and even abuse but I will try again, provided I am allowed to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 In a message dated 00-12-08 12:03:59 EST, you write: << I agree with Dave, both you, Susie, and are on the far ends of the spectrum, which leaves plenty of room in the middle for variation! I know that a few folks have left because of your attitude about anyone who DOESN'T follow a strict low carb WOE! I think this group is mature enough to live with both attitudes and ideas IF you each tone down the rhetoric! >> Good point, . V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 I agree with Dave, both you, Susie, and are on the far ends of the spectrum, which leaves plenty of room in the middle for variation! I know that a few folks have left because of your attitude about anyone who DOESN'T follow a strict low carb WOE! I think this group is mature enough to live with both attitudes and ideas IF you each tone down the rhetoric! Re: (was: WOW etc.) " Susie M. " wrote: > > I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the > constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best > for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his > own beliefs. I feel that he is driven by an overwhelming need for attention, > and as leader of his own group, he would have plenty of opportunities to get > that attention without generating a blizzard of posts each time he makes > preposterous, misleading, provocative, sarcastic comments about those who > don't agree with him. Newly-diagnosed diabetics need our help. Yet many > leave the group because of the tension creates, not to mention the > sheer volume of posts generated when others feel they must warn , post > corrections to his misstatements, etc. > Sorry, I disagree. provokes thinking. Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. It works for you, and others also, but for many it doesn't, either due to their physical makeup or willingness to live your low carb way. My Mom is 89, is not *fat*, and does not do low carb, and has been a T2 for many years. No complications. She lives alone. Low carb is great for those who want to endure it and for those whom it works. I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have that power. You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their regimen, and families do squabble. I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, will not go along with that. -- Dave - 8:57:27 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: .... All the world's a stage, and I missed rehearsal. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Public website for Diabetes International: http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 > I agree with Dave, both you, Susie, and are > on the far ends of the spectrum, which leaves > plenty of room in the middle for variation! Wow, at the far end of the spectrum, ? That makes me feel very uncomfortable! Make some place free for me, I am going to start moving back to the middle again - it's too lonely out here! > I think this group is mature enough to live > with both attitudes and ideas IF you each tone > down the rhetoric! Yeah, I got that message already and am going to give it a try, I have never been able to match Susie's rhetoric anyway! Thanks for the insight, , let me know immediately if I don't shape up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Hehehe! Yup, it gets lonely at the end of your rope! I just think everyone can converse in a more adult fashion, and agree to disagree! Re: (was: WOW etc.) > I agree with Dave, both you, Susie, and are > on the far ends of the spectrum, which leaves > plenty of room in the middle for variation! Wow, at the far end of the spectrum, ? That makes me feel very uncomfortable! Make some place free for me, I am going to start moving back to the middle again - it's too lonely out here! > I think this group is mature enough to live > with both attitudes and ideas IF you each tone > down the rhetoric! Yeah, I got that message already and am going to give it a try, I have never been able to match Susie's rhetoric anyway! Thanks for the insight, , let me know immediately if I don't shape up. Public website for Diabetes International: http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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