Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Thanks, Susie...I was going to write you privately about this. I've noticed when isn't posting we are a friendly, caring, helpful group. When he posts the fireworks start. He certainly doesn't add to the " family feeling " that most of us have and would like to preserve for each other. I am getting weary of the constant arguments he provokes. As one of the original posters -- and major resources -- of this group, I think you have a perfect right to ask him to leave. I hope he goes peacefully. Vicki In a message dated 00-12-06 19:31:16 EST, you write: << I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his own beliefs. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 In a message dated 12/6/00 7:31:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, ottercritter@... writes: << I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his own beliefs. I feel that he is driven by an overwhelming need for attention, and as leader of his own group, he would have plenty of opportunities to get that attention without generating a blizzard of posts each time he makes preposterous, misleading, provocative, sarcastic comments about those who don't agree with him. Newly-diagnosed diabetics need our help. Yet many leave the group because of the tension creates, not to mention the sheer volume of posts generated when others feel they must warn , post corrections to his misstatements, etc. >> Susie, i know you are knowledgable with the low carbing, but this group is not lowcarb-diabetes, this is diabetes int which i thought stood for international.... and i'm sure that not all diabetics in the entire world are doing low carbing.... as a matter of fact many with Kidney problems cannot do low carbing.... and this does not have to do with the diabetes getting complications I'm talking about folks with Kidney problems anyway.... low carbing is still controversial.... sure you have a book and a whole group of people who will do low carbing and get great results but it doesnt work for everyone... IF you want to change this group to low carb -diabetics please let me know, and i'll go find a group that is just diabetics.... of all kinds. Its not that i dont agree with some of what you say, and its not that i dont agree that there is a place for low carbing in diabetic teaching, but i'm sure its not the only way to go.... Who runs this group? I guessed that it would be Teri cuz she has the web site, but maybe i'm wrong... but i didnt know that it was you Susie even though you do a lot of people service by telling them about low carbing... and i appreciate the suggestions but not when you are gonna tell others to leave the group etc cuz they dont agree with you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 In a message dated 00-12-06 21:04:42 EST, you write: << You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? >> How can they respond if they left the list? <g> Teri is putting on moderated. I think that last post went too far too. V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Well, I usually try to stay out of arguments, but this time I am jumping in and if I am asked to leave so be it. But I must side with Susie here....and I see Dave's position to a point......that is OK for to have a different point of view. But it is not OK to slam or be sarcastic toward others when He disagrees with their statements. Gosh we all have different ideas, just like now I am siding with Susie. But, I am not being sarcastic toward Dave, I am just stating my opinion for the group to read or not. And that is all from me. I feel there is never a need for sarcasm or disrespect from others and certainly not in a helpful group such as this. Public website for Diabetes International: http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 In a message dated 12/06/2000 11:52:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, starship@... writes: << about " twit " filters. >> what's this? carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his own beliefs. I feel that he is driven by an overwhelming need for attention, and as leader of his own group, he would have plenty of opportunities to get that attention without generating a blizzard of posts each time he makes preposterous, misleading, provocative, sarcastic comments about those who don't agree with him. Newly-diagnosed diabetics need our help. Yet many leave the group because of the tension creates, not to mention the sheer volume of posts generated when others feel they must warn , post corrections to his misstatements, etc. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Dave O. wrote: << provokes thinking. .. provokes tension and arguments. You stand on the sidelines and egg him on. << Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. >> It's not about " ways. " It's about one member of the group intentionally posting exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations. It's about one person demanding that we back up our stance with studies, then ignoring those studies and continuing to insist that no such studies exist. It's about one member of the group using sarcasm and rudeness, then pretending it's all a fun joke when he is called on it. << I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have that power. >> You're saying I don't have the *power* to write to a member I find continually offensive and disruptive and suggesting he form his own group? What country are we living in? << You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? >> You'll have to round up all the members who have already left the group to conduct your poll. << This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their regimen, and families do squabble. I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, will not go along with that. >> Well, we'll miss you, buddy. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Regardless of high-carb, low-carb, or eat-poopy ways of eating, there has been a definite antagonistic, let's-start-an-arguement tone in some of the posts today. I have written a couple of people privately myself today, as the moderator of this list, asking that the tone of posts be softened and that discussions be kept civil and not taken to a personal level. I will express no personal feelings regarding anyone on this list or their behavior. I will say only this -- no antagonism, no personal slams. In case I missed emailing anyone, now I've said it here. Let's all act like adults and comport ourselves appropriately. Pretty please? I really don't want to put anyone on moderation. It's a huge pain, and shouldn't be necessary. Dave, please don't take this personally. This was just the right opportunity to say this. I now return you to your regularly scheduled mailing list. Teri Re: (was: WOW etc.) " Susie M. " wrote: > > I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the > constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best > for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his > own beliefs. I feel that he is driven by an overwhelming need for attention, > and as leader of his own group, he would have plenty of opportunities to get > that attention without generating a blizzard of posts each time he makes > preposterous, misleading, provocative, sarcastic comments about those who > don't agree with him. Newly-diagnosed diabetics need our help. Yet many > leave the group because of the tension creates, not to mention the > sheer volume of posts generated when others feel they must warn , post > corrections to his misstatements, etc. > Sorry, I disagree. provokes thinking. Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. It works for you, and others also, but for many it doesn't, either due to their physical makeup or willingness to live your low carb way. My Mom is 89, is not *fat*, and does not do low carb, and has been a T2 for many years. No complications. She lives alone. Low carb is great for those who want to endure it and for those whom it works. I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have that power. You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their regimen, and families do squabble. I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, will not go along with that. -- Dave - 8:57:27 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: ... All the world's a stage, and I missed rehearsal. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com eGroups Sponsor Public website for Diabetes International: http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 OK. Time out. is not on moderation. has been politely asked to be less antagonistic. The choice is his. I would not put anyone on moderated status without speaking with them first. I suggest we all take a few deep breaths and get a good night's sleep. Teri Re: (was: WOW etc.) In a message dated 00-12-06 21:04:42 EST, you write: << You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? >> How can they respond if they left the list? <g> Teri is putting on moderated. I think that last post went too far too. V. eGroups Sponsor Public website for Diabetes International: http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Thanks Susie, I almost turned the group off because of him, then I learned about " twit " filters. Just might turn him off! Re: (was: WOW etc.) > I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the > constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best > for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his > own beliefs. I feel that he is driven by an overwhelming need for attention, > and as leader of his own group, he would have plenty of opportunities to get > that attention without generating a blizzard of posts each time he makes > preposterous, misleading, provocative, sarcastic comments about those who > don't agree with him. Newly-diagnosed diabetics need our help. Yet many > leave the group because of the tension creates, not to mention the > sheer volume of posts generated when others feel they must warn , post > corrections to his misstatements, etc. > > Susie > > > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Dave, put your think cap on. Those that LEFT, will not see your post, thus will not vote. I almost left because of " him " The advice I gained from Susie has made my life better. Im doing just fine low carb, low carb reversed my wife's FiberMialgia problem, reversed my Acid reflux, and my glucose intolarance. Re: (was: WOW etc.) > > > " Susie M. " wrote: > > > > I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the > > constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best > > for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his > > own beliefs. I feel that he is driven by an overwhelming need for attention, > > and as leader of his own group, he would have plenty of opportunities to get > > that attention without generating a blizzard of posts each time he makes > > preposterous, misleading, provocative, sarcastic comments about those who > > don't agree with him. Newly-diagnosed diabetics need our help. Yet many > > leave the group because of the tension creates, not to mention the > > sheer volume of posts generated when others feel they must warn , post > > corrections to his misstatements, etc. > > > > > Sorry, I disagree. provokes thinking. Your way is damn well not > the right way, or the only way. It works for you, and others also, but > for many it doesn't, either due to their physical makeup or willingness > to live your low carb way. My Mom is 89, is not *fat*, and does not do > low carb, and has been a T2 for many years. No complications. She lives > alone. Low carb is great for those who want to endure it and for those > whom it works. > > I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in > writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't > have that power. > > You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; > unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to > ? > > This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their > regimen, and families do squabble. > I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for > one, will not go along with that. > > > -- > Dave - 8:57:27 PM > T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose > - > Davors Daily Aphorism: > ... All the world's a stage, and I missed rehearsal. > -- > Visit my HomePage: > http://dorcutt.homepage.com > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Dave, you made my twit filer FIRST! Congrats Re: (was: WOW etc.) > > > " Susie M. " wrote: > > > > Dave O. wrote: > > > > << provokes thinking. .. > > > > provokes tension and arguments. You stand on the sidelines and egg him > > on. > > Says you. I appreciate his posts, and the thought he puts into them, and > he does a heck of a lot of research. I am not saying that he has things > right, but I will agree with him in that his WOE is not necessarily > wrong for him, or his wife. He keeps much better track of his glucose > position than the majority of us do. > > > > > << Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. >> > > > > It's not about " ways. " It's about one member of the group intentionally > > posting exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations. It's about one > > person demanding that we back up our stance with studies, then ignoring > > those studies and continuing to insist that no such studies exist. It's > > about one member of the group using sarcasm and rudeness, then pretending > > it's all a fun joke when he is called on it. > > Why, pshaw.. looking at your post about Amaryl, and all the claims you > are making, it's you who should be posting the clinical studies that > prove what you are saying. You are the one saying that *all* sulfs, in > whatever doses are harmful. In all of the thrashing around about burnout > of the pancreas, I have only seen one article that mentions that the > " possibility " exists. Not proven. > > What is he making exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations > about? We won't go there about the rudeness and sarcasm part. You plain > don't like him because he will not bow to your ministrations of > low-carbing. I won't either. > > You would like some to think perhaps you are a doctor, or have the > ability to disseminate medical advice over the Internet? > > > > > << I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in > > writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have > > that power. >> > > > > You're saying I don't have the *power* to write to a member I find > > continually offensive and disruptive and suggesting he form his own group? > > What country are we living in? > > What country is this list about? Should we go around waving the American > flag saying that the American way is the right way? Get real. This is an > International list formed by a Norwegian/Dane. Things are done > differently in different countries, and I appreciate hearing about it. > Writing to someone privately via unsolicited email is wrong; it's spam. > Actually, I don't buy that American medicine is the best in the world.. > Many countries have exceptional medical research, Israel included. > > > > > << You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; > > unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? >> > > > > You'll have to round up all the members who have already left the group to > > conduct your poll. > > I don't have to do anything. You're the one making the claim. We're > close to 300 members. > > > > > << This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their > > regimen, and families do squabble. > > I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, > > will not go along with that. >> > > > > Well, we'll miss you, buddy. > > I'm not going anyway buddy.. > > -- > Dave - 9:17:28 PM > T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose > - > Davors Daily Aphorism: > Ambition is the last refuge of the failure. > -- > Visit my HomePage: > http://dorcutt.homepage.com > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Twit filters allow you email reader to " delete " , " move " , " block " as you see fit email from a particular source, subject, or Well, you get the idea. Outlook express under tools, is message rules. Re: (was: WOW etc.) > In a message dated 12/06/2000 11:52:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, > starship@... writes: > > << about " twit " filters. >> > > what's this? > carol > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 " Susie M. " wrote: > > I have just written privately, telling him I am fed up with the > constant sarcasm and overblown statements, and that I think it would be best > for all concerned if he formed his own group where he can disseminate his > own beliefs. I feel that he is driven by an overwhelming need for attention, > and as leader of his own group, he would have plenty of opportunities to get > that attention without generating a blizzard of posts each time he makes > preposterous, misleading, provocative, sarcastic comments about those who > don't agree with him. Newly-diagnosed diabetics need our help. Yet many > leave the group because of the tension creates, not to mention the > sheer volume of posts generated when others feel they must warn , post > corrections to his misstatements, etc. > Sorry, I disagree. provokes thinking. Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. It works for you, and others also, but for many it doesn't, either due to their physical makeup or willingness to live your low carb way. My Mom is 89, is not *fat*, and does not do low carb, and has been a T2 for many years. No complications. She lives alone. Low carb is great for those who want to endure it and for those whom it works. I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have that power. You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their regimen, and families do squabble. I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, will not go along with that. -- Dave - 8:57:27 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: .... All the world's a stage, and I missed rehearsal. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 " Susie M. " wrote: > > Dave O. wrote: > > << provokes thinking. .. > > provokes tension and arguments. You stand on the sidelines and egg him > on. Says you. I appreciate his posts, and the thought he puts into them, and he does a heck of a lot of research. I am not saying that he has things right, but I will agree with him in that his WOE is not necessarily wrong for him, or his wife. He keeps much better track of his glucose position than the majority of us do. > > << Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. >> > > It's not about " ways. " It's about one member of the group intentionally > posting exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations. It's about one > person demanding that we back up our stance with studies, then ignoring > those studies and continuing to insist that no such studies exist. It's > about one member of the group using sarcasm and rudeness, then pretending > it's all a fun joke when he is called on it. Why, pshaw.. looking at your post about Amaryl, and all the claims you are making, it's you who should be posting the clinical studies that prove what you are saying. You are the one saying that *all* sulfs, in whatever doses are harmful. In all of the thrashing around about burnout of the pancreas, I have only seen one article that mentions that the " possibility " exists. Not proven. What is he making exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations about? We won't go there about the rudeness and sarcasm part. You plain don't like him because he will not bow to your ministrations of low-carbing. I won't either. You would like some to think perhaps you are a doctor, or have the ability to disseminate medical advice over the Internet? > > << I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in > writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have > that power. >> > > You're saying I don't have the *power* to write to a member I find > continually offensive and disruptive and suggesting he form his own group? > What country are we living in? What country is this list about? Should we go around waving the American flag saying that the American way is the right way? Get real. This is an International list formed by a Norwegian/Dane. Things are done differently in different countries, and I appreciate hearing about it. Writing to someone privately via unsolicited email is wrong; it's spam. Actually, I don't buy that American medicine is the best in the world.. Many countries have exceptional medical research, Israel included. > > << You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; > unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? >> > > You'll have to round up all the members who have already left the group to > conduct your poll. I don't have to do anything. You're the one making the claim. We're close to 300 members. > > << This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their > regimen, and families do squabble. > I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, > will not go along with that. >> > > Well, we'll miss you, buddy. I'm not going anyway buddy.. -- Dave - 9:17:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: Ambition is the last refuge of the failure. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 " Susie M. " wrote: > > Dave O. wrote: > > << provokes thinking. .. > > provokes tension and arguments. You stand on the sidelines and egg him > on. Says you. I appreciate his posts, and the thought he puts into them, and he does a heck of a lot of research. I am not saying that he has things right, but I will agree with him in that his WOE is not necessarily wrong for him, or his wife. He keeps much better track of his glucose position than the majority of us do. > > << Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. >> > > It's not about " ways. " It's about one member of the group intentionally > posting exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations. It's about one > person demanding that we back up our stance with studies, then ignoring > those studies and continuing to insist that no such studies exist. It's > about one member of the group using sarcasm and rudeness, then pretending > it's all a fun joke when he is called on it. Why, pshaw.. looking at your post about Amaryl, and all the claims you are making, it's you who should be posting the clinical studies that prove what you are saying. You are the one saying that *all* sulfs, in whatever doses are harmful. In all of the thrashing around about burnout of the pancreas, I have only seen one article that mentions that the " possibility " exists. Not proven. What is he making exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations about? We won't go there about the rudeness and sarcasm part. You plain don't like him because he will not bow to your ministrations of low-carbing. I won't either. You would like some to think perhaps you are a doctor, or have the ability to disseminate medical advice over the Internet? > > << I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in > writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have > that power. >> > > You're saying I don't have the *power* to write to a member I find > continually offensive and disruptive and suggesting he form his own group? > What country are we living in? What country is this list about? Should we go around waving the American flag saying that the American way is the right way? Get real. This is an International list formed by a Norwegian/Dane. Things are done differently in different countries, and I appreciate hearing about it. Writing to someone privately via unsolicited email is wrong; it's spam. Actually, I don't buy that American medicine is the best in the world.. Many countries have exceptional medical research, Israel included. > > << You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; > unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? >> > > You'll have to round up all the members who have already left the group to > conduct your poll. I don't have to do anything. You're the one making the claim. We're close to 300 members. > > << This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their > regimen, and families do squabble. > I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, > will not go along with that. >> > > Well, we'll miss you, buddy. I'm not going anyway buddy.. -- Dave - 9:17:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: Ambition is the last refuge of the failure. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 GayRghts@... wrote: > IF you want to change this group to low carb -diabetics please let me know, > and i'll go find a group that is just diabetics.... of all kinds. > Its not that i dont agree with some of what you say, and its not that i dont > agree that there is a place for low carbing in diabetic teaching, but i'm > sure its not the only way to go.... > > Who runs this group? I guessed that it would be Teri cuz she has the web > site, but maybe i'm wrong... but i didnt know that it was you Susie even > though you do a lot of people service by telling them about low carbing... > and i appreciate the suggestions but not when you are gonna tell others to > leave the group etc cuz they dont agree with you... > Very well put . -- Dave - 9:37:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: Best diet: Eat as much as you want, but don't swallow it. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 GayRghts@... wrote: > IF you want to change this group to low carb -diabetics please let me know, > and i'll go find a group that is just diabetics.... of all kinds. > Its not that i dont agree with some of what you say, and its not that i dont > agree that there is a place for low carbing in diabetic teaching, but i'm > sure its not the only way to go.... > > Who runs this group? I guessed that it would be Teri cuz she has the web > site, but maybe i'm wrong... but i didnt know that it was you Susie even > though you do a lot of people service by telling them about low carbing... > and i appreciate the suggestions but not when you are gonna tell others to > leave the group etc cuz they dont agree with you... > Very well put . -- Dave - 9:37:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: Best diet: Eat as much as you want, but don't swallow it. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 cariapat@... wrote: > > Well, I usually try to stay out of arguments, but this time I am jumping in > and if I am asked to leave so be it. Don't go anywhere.. > But I must side with Susie here....and I see Dave's position to a > point......that is OK for to have a different point of view. But it is > not OK to slam or be sarcastic toward others when He disagrees with their > statements. Gosh we all have different ideas, just like now I am siding with > Susie. But, I am not being sarcastic toward Dave, I am just stating my > opinion for the group to read or not. And that is all from me. Appreciated (my Mom's name), even though you're on the " other side " when it comes to WOE. You see, I feel that Susie also offers great advice, but then she is also sarcastic when it comes to supporting her low-carbing. Views are great, that's what it's all about. > I feel there is never a need for sarcasm or disrespect from others and > certainly not in a helpful group such as this. > For some reason people get the impression that this is a Low-Carb group.. Ain't! -- Dave - 9:37:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: Best diet: Eat as much as you want, but don't swallow it. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 cariapat@... wrote: > > Well, I usually try to stay out of arguments, but this time I am jumping in > and if I am asked to leave so be it. Don't go anywhere.. > But I must side with Susie here....and I see Dave's position to a > point......that is OK for to have a different point of view. But it is > not OK to slam or be sarcastic toward others when He disagrees with their > statements. Gosh we all have different ideas, just like now I am siding with > Susie. But, I am not being sarcastic toward Dave, I am just stating my > opinion for the group to read or not. And that is all from me. Appreciated (my Mom's name), even though you're on the " other side " when it comes to WOE. You see, I feel that Susie also offers great advice, but then she is also sarcastic when it comes to supporting her low-carbing. Views are great, that's what it's all about. > I feel there is never a need for sarcasm or disrespect from others and > certainly not in a helpful group such as this. > For some reason people get the impression that this is a Low-Carb group.. Ain't! -- Dave - 9:37:28 PM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: Best diet: Eat as much as you want, but don't swallow it. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2000 Report Share Posted December 7, 2000 In a message dated 00-12-06 21:40:09 EST, you write: << > Well, we'll miss you, buddy. I'm not going anyway buddy.. >> now now, children.... V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2000 Report Share Posted December 7, 2000 Hi V andSusie, I agree with both of you and say more power to you Susie, If someone disagrees with something and has proof to back it up let them present the proof and debunk what is wrong. Sarccasm and flame wars do not belong on this group. Good sound advice and helpful hints do. Don and Penguinie Diabetic T1 penguin PS. I have not time for bad advice or information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2000 Report Share Posted December 7, 2000 StarShip wrote: > > Dave, put your think cap on. Those that LEFT, will not see your post, thus > will not vote. Yep. > > I almost left because of " him " A shame as he does have some valid arguments. > > The advice I gained from Susie has made my life better. Im doing just fine > low carb, low carb reversed my wife's FiberMialgia problem, reversed my Acid > reflux, and my glucose intolarance. That's great, and I mean that, for you. It's not for everyone. I enjoy good maintenance with moderate carbing, and sometimes full-blown carbing, but limiting intake. Just don't join her in postulating that that is the way this list will lean, or that it is the only way or you'll meet resistance. > -- Dave - 11:17:45 AM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: Laughter: The shortest distance between two people. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2000 Report Share Posted December 7, 2000 I'm honored, really! StarShip wrote: > > Dave, you made my twit filer FIRST! > Congrats -- Dave - 11:22:46 AM T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, Precose - Davors Daily Aphorism: I didn't know it was impossible when I did it. -- Visit my HomePage: http://dorcutt.homepage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2000 Report Share Posted December 7, 2000 I have been visiting you site and am so glad that you have taken a stand on . I believe you hit the nail on the head. Let's move on to a friendlier site without the tensions. Thanks, O'B Re: (was: WOW etc.) > Dave O. wrote: > > << provokes thinking. .. > > provokes tension and arguments. You stand on the sidelines and egg him > on. > > << Your way is damn well not the right way, or the only way. >> > > It's not about " ways. " It's about one member of the group intentionally > posting exaggerated claims and outright misrepresentations. It's about one > person demanding that we back up our stance with studies, then ignoring > those studies and continuing to insist that no such studies exist. It's > about one member of the group using sarcasm and rudeness, then pretending > it's all a fun joke when he is called on it. > > << I actually am a bit pissed that you would do such a thing Susie, in > writing privately to and telling him to take a hike. You don't have > that power. >> > > You're saying I don't have the *power* to write to a member I find > continually offensive and disruptive and suggesting he form his own group? > What country are we living in? > > << You say many leave the group because of the tension creates; > unfounded. Prove it.. let's have a poll. How many have left due to ? >> > > You'll have to round up all the members who have already left the group to > conduct your poll. > > << This group is about interaction, different ways that people work their > regimen, and families do squabble. > I feel that you are again attempting a low carb takeover, and I, for one, > will not go along with that. >> > > Well, we'll miss you, buddy. > > Susie > > > > > Public website for Diabetes International: > http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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