Re: Colloidal Silver ...Update

[Guest guest]

I want to try this! How / where can I read your protocol?

Lee

Germann wrote:

I wish I could tell you this is the cure..The only person that I know

of so far was Delise.... She took it differantly then I`m givin it to my

wife.. she didnt know of the silver therapy web site I found .. She took 10

and 20 ppm silver..but drank 16 oz a day...this took her longer to build up the

silver in her body to 20ppm This is the amount they say silver does it best

killing in a petri dish in a lab..it took her 2yrs to be MS free.. Taking it

this way a tablespoon of 5000ppm silver put in a glass of 8 oz distilled water..

makes it 300ppm silver your taking..so it builds up to 20ppm in the body faster

thats why I think we saw faster improvements..But story was good

thou..cause just what improvements she saw in weeks Adda saw in days..so we knew

a bit of what to look for..like the Hexheimer reactions she tells about.. So far

I only have 4 others taking it this way to tell you about .. Adda my wife

first... June 6th this year.. my wife could

barely walk drop foot caused her to fall alot..her hand control was so bad she

could only type with 1 finger I had to cut her food ..her MS slur was so bad you

couldnt understand her.. No feelings in her hands and feet..back and knee pain

all the time..shakes in her hands,, now she has her feelings back in her hands

and feet hand control back and can type again with all fingers.. no drop foot

anymore she walks on her own..not lady like yet as she says..but on her own MS

slur is gone..and no more pain.. Grace she had MS 30+ yrs.. wheel chair bound no

feelings or movement from waist down.. fair hand control.. started in mid july

now she has feelings in her legs can move her toes, hand control is back to

normal but thats it so far..

Charley He is totaly bed bound a quad..no movements in arms or legs, and cant

talk at all..a lifeless look in his eyes.. father started him on late july ..he

now can talk has control of 1 arm and hand and move his legs.. smiling now as

his mother said. and has a sparkle in his eyes again..

Larry MS for over 40 yrs.. in wheel chair 20 yrs bad hand control no feelings or

movement from waist down. bad MS slur.. start mid july MS slur is gone has his

upper body control back but still no help for his lower body.. I think he just

was damaged just to long

Debbie she is from the net only know she was close to the way wife was.. started

silver mid august.. she wrote last week saying 50% of her MS syptom are almost

gone..

So far thats all I know about..I asked and ask out on the net and no one else

took it this way so far.. My wife been the guinie pig so to speak.. Jim

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Jim,

That is so great that your wife and the others have seen an

improvement in their MS symptoms. Where can we read about 's

experience?

So what is it about the colloidal silver that causes the

improvements in the MS symptoms? I know that colloidal silver is

effective at killing all pathogens. Is the theory that MS is caused

by a virus, or other pathogen, and killing the pathogen will cure

the MS? Is there something else the colloidal silver does that

could be having an effect on MS?

I personally believe that mercury poisoning, coupled with pathogens,

most likely candida, is the cause of MS. I don't know if they both

cause damage that leads to MS, or if the mercury just helps the

candida to grow and thrive and it really is the candida that causes

the damage. If the candida plays the major part, then it makes

sense that the colloidal silver, by killing off the candida, would

lead to improvement in MS symptoms. If that is the case, then the

Zapper could be just as effective, since it has been shown to kill

all pathogens as well.

Do you make your own colloidal silver? Do you purchase your

colloidal silver? You have to be very careful with high PPM silver

solutions because the high PPM may just indicate the presence of

larger particles of silver, not necessarily high amounts of the

smallest, more desirable particles. How do you check the quality of

the colloidal silver that you use?

I have heard that colloidal silver can accumulate in the body, and

could build up high levels in the body, being hard to elliminate.

Do you do a periodic heavy metal cleanse to prevent a potentially

harmful build up? I have heard of several people who's skin has

turned a blueish grey with long term, high dose colloidal silver

use. What do you do to prevent that?

Colloidal silver is also known to kill the good bacteria in the

intestinal tract. Do you give your wife a pro-biotic supplement

every day to replace the bacteria that is being killed off?

Sometimes we need to use ourselves as human guinea pigs to find out

for ourselves if a certain treatment will work for us.

Right now, I am using myself as a human guinea pig to test out the

mercury/candida theory. I removed all mercury fillings, am doing a

heavy metal detox, AND I am zapping to kill off candida/other

pathogens.

I really think a lot of these alternative therapies, that have shown

to have a positive effect on MS, are related, possibly causing the

same type of affect in the body. Combining some of these therapies

may prove to give faster, and more effective results. That is why I

decided to add Zapping to my mercury detox.

The more we share our experiences, the better we will be able to

figure this MonSter out.

Thanks for sharing and please keep us updated.

Cara

>

> I wish I could tell you this is the cure..The only person that

I know of so far was Delise.... She took it differantly then

I`m givin it to my wife.. she didnt know of the silver therapy

web site I found .. She took 10 and 20 ppm silver..but drank 16 oz a

day...this took her longer to build up the silver in her body to

20ppm This is the amount they say silver does it best killing in a

petri dish in a lab..it took her 2yrs to be MS free.. Taking it

this way a tablespoon of 5000ppm silver put in a glass of 8 oz

distilled water.. makes it 300ppm silver your taking..so it builds

up to 20ppm in the body faster thats why I think we saw faster

improvements..But story was good thou..cause just what

improvements she saw in weeks Adda saw in days..so we knew a bit of

what to look for..like the Hexheimer reactions she tells about.. So

far I only have 4 others taking it this way to tell you about ..

Adda my wife first... June 6th this year.. my wife could

> barely walk drop foot caused her to fall alot..her hand control

was so bad she could only type with 1 finger I had to cut her

food ..her MS slur was so bad you couldnt understand her.. No

feelings in her hands and feet..back and knee pain all the

time..shakes in her hands,, now she has her feelings back in her

hands and feet hand control back and can type again with all

fingers.. no drop foot anymore she walks on her own..not lady like

yet as she says..but on her own MS slur is gone..and no more

pain..

[Guest guest]

Hi

I hope this helps you too ..been working for my wife great and in only 3

months.. read all about it .... I can tell you one thing thou ..your Dr may not

ok it ..even thou its safe to take... not FDA aproved is all

Jim

Oh one thing ..if you cant wear silver jewery because you get a rash...you

cant take this..so just forget it..read it all..so you know what this is all

about..and know it is safe for you..

The 1st web page tells you what is causing your MS..a mycoplasma

2nd tell you of how they are tring to cure you of the mycoplasma..do note

they want you to take along with there drugs is collotail silver..plus they tell

you about the hexheimer reactions you will get when the bugs are dieing ...

3rd is Delise`s testamonail on how she cured her self of MS

4th is the silver theropy web page on how much silver you have to take look

under MS

5th is were we got the silver I am giving my wife a quart bottle..189. will

last the 48 days they say you have to take it. but like my wife you may need

more we are working on second bottle now..but we turned the clock back on her MS

by atleast 12 yrs now..

6th just more info of Collodial silver

Adda and Jim

http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/autoimmunity.htm

http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/myco%20tx%20sugg.htm

http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/ms-cured-argentyn.html

http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy/Ag-therapy.html

http://www.ultrasilver.com/product/856799001106.html

http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

That is the “minimum” to address most pathogens in the bloodstream.(On average

though, one generally needs an undiluted 20 p.p.m. solution to address most

pathogens in vitro (in the petrie dish), and the only way to achieve a 2 to 20

p.p.m. availability of silver in vivo = in the bloodstream (which is now

diluting the silver down with 6 ((six)) litres of blood) is to use at least a

500 p.p.m. solution in amounts from 2 teaspoons to 20 teaspoons per day of 500

p.p.m... Therefore demonstrated scientifically from actual laboratory results

per the above: If the solution is not “at least” 500 p.p.m. you will not be able

to achieve a 2 p.p.m. to 20 p.p.m. concentration of silver in the bloodstream to

address most common pathogens, let alone the current mutated pathogens. This is

the key to silver killing (eradicating) the pathogens in the individual that all

of the silver producers are deliberately ignoring, or are unaware of because

they do not know the Science involved.

Summation:You only want to purchase true colloidal silver made from “atoms” of

silver (not ions),in strengths from 500 p.p.m. to 20,000 p.p.m.,so that you have

an adequate enough level of silver “in the bloodstream” (not the bottle) of at

least 2 p.p.m. to 20 p.p.m., which can only be achieved by using at least a 500

p.p.m. solution;This is another “key” reason why this is the “only product” that

gave the documented Medical Journal Results for 650 pathogens because it was

sold at strengths of 500+ p.p.m..Please believe and follow Science and not

silver promoters heresey hype, lies, and misinformation.

Argyria, while not being a deadly condition, certainly is undesirable. It is

usually caused by the massive intake of silver salts, such as silver nitrate,

silver sulfate, and silver chloride. not from eletrically made silver atoms

particals

Silver Kills Germs

Throughout Recorded History

Man has used silver to kill germs throughout recorded history. Here is an

ancient anecdote from the writings of Herodotus, the Greek philosopher, dating

this use of silver to before the birth of Christ.

The Greek historian Herodotus, called the " Father of History " , is one of our

prime sources for information known about the fall of Babylon. Herodotus lived a

century after the time of and traveled widely in the East. In his

" Histories, " we learn of the campaign of Persia's King Cyrus against Babylon.

The details include the fact that no Persian king, including Cyrus, would drink

the water of any stream other than the Choaspes, a river that flows past the

Persian capital of Susa. Wherever the king went, a long train of four-wheeled

mule wagons followed him transporting silver jars filled with boiled water from

the river’s waters. The water would keep fresh for years during the long

campaigns.

The Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians and many peoples from the " Dark Ages "

used silver in one form or another to preserve food and water. In the " Middle

Ages, " during the plagues, silverware protected the wealthy from the full brunt

of its ravages. In the old west, pioneers used silver coins to preserve milk and

water. In the last century, man was beginning to develop more sophisticated

forms of silver to kill germ

Bacteria Becoming Resistant

Now, as many bacteria become resistant to pharmaceutical antibiotics, silver is

emerging once more as a germ killer inside the human body. During the last

several decades, the technology of silver as a germ fighter has continued to

evolve. Instead of just using the surface of coins or silver vessels to come in

contact with germs to kill them, silver is now being used in the “colloidal”

state.

The Colloidal State

Colloidal silver has now evolved to be one of the most valuable germ killers

known. The term “colloidal” means ultra fine particles of a substance suspended

in a medium. In the case of the colloidal silver we refer to here, it means

particles of silver suspended in pure water. These particles are so fine that a

billion of them could fit on the cross-section of a human hair!

Cutting Edge Technology

The cutting edge technology of colloidal science has produced a product, which

is proving to be highly beneficial to the health of the many individuals who are

using it according to their own reports. The left menu has some testimonials

that we have received from people who have used our colloidal silver over the

last several years. These reports are presented just as we received them and as

such have misspellings and incorrect punctuation and grammar. Since colloidal

silver has not undergone the rigorous testing required to become an FDA licensed

drug, we are not allowed to claim any cures or treatments for individual medical

conditions. You must arrive at your own judgment as to whether you will try

colloidal silver for the benefit of the health of your family. We hope you will

excuse the flaws and receive the essence of the meaning of these “real people.”

Cara wrote: Jim,

That is so great that your wife and the others have seen an

improvement in their MS symptoms. Where can we read about 's

experience?

So what is it about the colloidal silver that causes the

improvements in the MS symptoms? I know that colloidal silver is

effective at killing all pathogens. Is the theory that MS is caused

by a virus, or other pathogen, and killing the pathogen will cure

the MS? Is there something else the colloidal silver does that

could be having an effect on MS?

I personally believe that mercury poisoning, coupled with pathogens,

most likely candida, is the cause of MS. I don't know if they both

cause damage that leads to MS, or if the mercury just helps the

candida to grow and thrive and it really is the candida that causes

the damage. If the candida plays the major part, then it makes

sense that the colloidal silver, by killing off the candida, would

lead to improvement in MS symptoms. If that is the case, then the

Zapper could be just as effective, since it has been shown to kill

all pathogens as well.

Do you make your own colloidal silver? Do you purchase your

colloidal silver? You have to be very careful with high PPM silver

solutions because the high PPM may just indicate the presence of

larger particles of silver, not necessarily high amounts of the

smallest, more desirable particles. How do you check the quality of

the colloidal silver that you use?

I have heard that colloidal silver can accumulate in the body, and

could build up high levels in the body, being hard to elliminate.

Do you do a periodic heavy metal cleanse to prevent a potentially

harmful build up? I have heard of several people who's skin has

turned a blueish grey with long term, high dose colloidal silver

use. What do you do to prevent that?

Colloidal silver is also known to kill the good bacteria in the

intestinal tract. Do you give your wife a pro-biotic supplement

every day to replace the bacteria that is being killed off?

Sometimes we need to use ourselves as human guinea pigs to find out

for ourselves if a certain treatment will work for us.

Right now, I am using myself as a human guinea pig to test out the

mercury/candida theory. I removed all mercury fillings, am doing a

heavy metal detox, AND I am zapping to kill off candida/other

pathogens.

I really think a lot of these alternative therapies, that have shown

to have a positive effect on MS, are related, possibly causing the

same type of affect in the body. Combining some of these therapies

may prove to give faster, and more effective results. That is why I

decided to add Zapping to my mercury detox.

The more we share our experiences, the better we will be able to

figure this MonSter out.

Thanks for sharing and please keep us updated.

Cara

>

> I wish I could tell you this is the cure..The only person that

I know of so far was Delise.... She took it differantly then

I`m givin it to my wife.. she didnt know of the silver therapy

web site I found .. She took 10 and 20 ppm silver..but drank 16 oz a

day...this took her longer to build up the silver in her body to

20ppm This is the amount they say silver does it best killing in a

petri dish in a lab..it took her 2yrs to be MS free.. Taking it

this way a tablespoon of 5000ppm silver put in a glass of 8 oz

distilled water.. makes it 300ppm silver your taking..so it builds

up to 20ppm in the body faster thats why I think we saw faster

improvements..But story was good thou..cause just what

improvements she saw in weeks Adda saw in days..so we knew a bit of

what to look for..like the Hexheimer reactions she tells about.. So

far I only have 4 others taking it this way to tell you about ..

Adda my wife first... June 6th this year.. my wife could

> barely walk drop foot caused her to fall alot..her hand control

was so bad she could only type with 1 finger I had to cut her

food ..her MS slur was so bad you couldnt understand her.. No

feelings in her hands and feet..back and knee pain all the

time..shakes in her hands,, now she has her feelings back in her

hands and feet hand control back and can type again with all

fingers.. no drop foot anymore she walks on her own..not lady like

yet as she says..but on her own MS slur is gone..and no more

pain..

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Hi

I hope this helps you too ..been working for my wife great and in only 3

months.. read all about it .... I can tell you one thing thou ..your Dr may not

ok it ..even thou its safe to take... not FDA aproved is all

Jim

Oh one thing ..if you cant wear silver jewery because you get a rash...you

cant take this..so just forget it..read it all..so you know what this is all

about..and know it is safe for you..

The 1st web page tells you what is causing your MS..a mycoplasma

2nd tell you of how they are tring to cure you of the mycoplasma..do note

they want you to take along with there drugs is collotail silver..plus they tell

you about the hexheimer reactions you will get when the bugs are dieing ...

3rd is Delise`s testamonail on how she cured her self of MS

4th is the silver theropy web page on how much silver you have to take look

under MS

5th is were we got the silver I am giving my wife a quart bottle..189. will

last the 48 days they say you have to take it. but like my wife you may need

more we are working on second bottle now..but we turned the clock back on her MS

by atleast 12 yrs now..

6th just more info of Collodial silver

Adda and Jim

http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/autoimmunity.htm

http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/myco%20tx%20sugg.htm

http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/ms-cured-argentyn.html

http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy/Ag-therapy.html

http://www.ultrasilver.com/product/856799001106.html

http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

That is the “minimum” to address most pathogens in the bloodstream.(On average

though, one generally needs an undiluted 20 p.p.m. solution to address most

pathogens in vitro (in the petrie dish), and the only way to achieve a 2 to 20

p.p.m. availability of silver in vivo = in the bloodstream (which is now

diluting the silver down with 6 ((six)) litres of blood) is to use at least a

500 p.p.m. solution in amounts from 2 teaspoons to 20 teaspoons per day of 500

p.p.m... Therefore demonstrated scientifically from actual laboratory results

per the above: If the solution is not “at least” 500 p.p.m. you will not be able

to achieve a 2 p.p.m. to 20 p.p.m. concentration of silver in the bloodstream to

address most common pathogens, let alone the current mutated pathogens. This is

the key to silver killing (eradicating) the pathogens in the individual that all

of the silver producers are deliberately ignoring, or are unaware of because

they do not know the Science involved.

Summation:You only want to purchase true colloidal silver made from “atoms” of

silver (not ions),in strengths from 500 p.p.m. to 20,000 p.p.m.,so that you have

an adequate enough level of silver “in the bloodstream” (not the bottle) of at

least 2 p.p.m. to 20 p.p.m., which can only be achieved by using at least a 500

p.p.m. solution;This is another “key” reason why this is the “only product” that

gave the documented Medical Journal Results for 650 pathogens because it was

sold at strengths of 500+ p.p.m..Please believe and follow Science and not

silver promoters heresey hype, lies, and misinformation.

Argyria, while not being a deadly condition, certainly is undesirable. It is

usually caused by the massive intake of silver salts, such as silver nitrate,

silver sulfate, and silver chloride. not from eletrically made silver atoms

particals

Silver Kills Germs

Throughout Recorded History

Man has used silver to kill germs throughout recorded history. Here is an

ancient anecdote from the writings of Herodotus, the Greek philosopher, dating

this use of silver to before the birth of Christ.

The Greek historian Herodotus, called the " Father of History " , is one of our

prime sources for information known about the fall of Babylon. Herodotus lived a

century after the time of and traveled widely in the East. In his

" Histories, " we learn of the campaign of Persia's King Cyrus against Babylon.

The details include the fact that no Persian king, including Cyrus, would drink

the water of any stream other than the Choaspes, a river that flows past the

Persian capital of Susa. Wherever the king went, a long train of four-wheeled

mule wagons followed him transporting silver jars filled with boiled water from

the river’s waters. The water would keep fresh for years during the long

campaigns.

The Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians and many peoples from the " Dark Ages "

used silver in one form or another to preserve food and water. In the " Middle

Ages, " during the plagues, silverware protected the wealthy from the full brunt

of its ravages. In the old west, pioneers used silver coins to preserve milk and

water. In the last century, man was beginning to develop more sophisticated

forms of silver to kill germ

Bacteria Becoming Resistant

Now, as many bacteria become resistant to pharmaceutical antibiotics, silver is

emerging once more as a germ killer inside the human body. During the last

several decades, the technology of silver as a germ fighter has continued to

evolve. Instead of just using the surface of coins or silver vessels to come in

contact with germs to kill them, silver is now being used in the “colloidal”

state.

The Colloidal State

Colloidal silver has now evolved to be one of the most valuable germ killers

known. The term “colloidal” means ultra fine particles of a substance suspended

in a medium. In the case of the colloidal silver we refer to here, it means

particles of silver suspended in pure water. These particles are so fine that a

billion of them could fit on the cross-section of a human hair!

Cutting Edge Technology

The cutting edge technology of colloidal science has produced a product, which

is proving to be highly beneficial to the health of the many individuals who are

using it according to their own reports. The left menu has some testimonials

that we have received from people who have used our colloidal silver over the

last several years. These reports are presented just as we received them and as

such have misspellings and incorrect punctuation and grammar. Since colloidal

silver has not undergone the rigorous testing required to become an FDA licensed

drug, we are not allowed to claim any cures or treatments for individual medical

conditions. You must arrive at your own judgment as to whether you will try

colloidal silver for the benefit of the health of your family. We hope you will

excuse the flaws and receive the essence of the meaning of these “real people.”

Cara wrote: Jim,

That is so great that your wife and the others have seen an

improvement in their MS symptoms. Where can we read about 's

experience?

So what is it about the colloidal silver that causes the

improvements in the MS symptoms? I know that colloidal silver is

effective at killing all pathogens. Is the theory that MS is caused

by a virus, or other pathogen, and killing the pathogen will cure

the MS? Is there something else the colloidal silver does that

could be having an effect on MS?

I personally believe that mercury poisoning, coupled with pathogens,

most likely candida, is the cause of MS. I don't know if they both

cause damage that leads to MS, or if the mercury just helps the

candida to grow and thrive and it really is the candida that causes

the damage. If the candida plays the major part, then it makes

sense that the colloidal silver, by killing off the candida, would

lead to improvement in MS symptoms. If that is the case, then the

Zapper could be just as effective, since it has been shown to kill

all pathogens as well.

Do you make your own colloidal silver? Do you purchase your

colloidal silver? You have to be very careful with high PPM silver

solutions because the high PPM may just indicate the presence of

larger particles of silver, not necessarily high amounts of the

smallest, more desirable particles. How do you check the quality of

the colloidal silver that you use?

I have heard that colloidal silver can accumulate in the body, and

could build up high levels in the body, being hard to elliminate.

Do you do a periodic heavy metal cleanse to prevent a potentially

harmful build up? I have heard of several people who's skin has

turned a blueish grey with long term, high dose colloidal silver

use. What do you do to prevent that?

Colloidal silver is also known to kill the good bacteria in the

intestinal tract. Do you give your wife a pro-biotic supplement

every day to replace the bacteria that is being killed off?

Sometimes we need to use ourselves as human guinea pigs to find out

for ourselves if a certain treatment will work for us.

Right now, I am using myself as a human guinea pig to test out the

mercury/candida theory. I removed all mercury fillings, am doing a

heavy metal detox, AND I am zapping to kill off candida/other

pathogens.

I really think a lot of these alternative therapies, that have shown

to have a positive effect on MS, are related, possibly causing the

same type of affect in the body. Combining some of these therapies

may prove to give faster, and more effective results. That is why I

decided to add Zapping to my mercury detox.

The more we share our experiences, the better we will be able to

figure this MonSter out.

Thanks for sharing and please keep us updated.

Cara

>

> I wish I could tell you this is the cure..The only person that

I know of so far was Delise.... She took it differantly then

I`m givin it to my wife.. she didnt know of the silver therapy

web site I found .. She took 10 and 20 ppm silver..but drank 16 oz a

day...this took her longer to build up the silver in her body to

20ppm This is the amount they say silver does it best killing in a

petri dish in a lab..it took her 2yrs to be MS free.. Taking it

this way a tablespoon of 5000ppm silver put in a glass of 8 oz

distilled water.. makes it 300ppm silver your taking..so it builds

up to 20ppm in the body faster thats why I think we saw faster

improvements..But story was good thou..cause just what

improvements she saw in weeks Adda saw in days..so we knew a bit of

what to look for..like the Hexheimer reactions she tells about.. So

far I only have 4 others taking it this way to tell you about ..

Adda my wife first... June 6th this year.. my wife could

> barely walk drop foot caused her to fall alot..her hand control

was so bad she could only type with 1 finger I had to cut her

food ..her MS slur was so bad you couldnt understand her.. No

feelings in her hands and feet..back and knee pain all the

time..shakes in her hands,, now she has her feelings back in her

hands and feet hand control back and can type again with all

fingers.. no drop foot anymore she walks on her own..not lady like

yet as she says..but on her own MS slur is gone..and no more

pain..

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Hi Cara

The only thing that the silver does you you in the body is kill 1 cell

organisms..bateria virus or fungus... So since it cure Delises MS it kill

the bug causing the MS what ever it is...But most likely it is the mycoplasma

orgamism..it is a slow growing hard to kill bug..that invades your cells and

lives off them..Your immune system then attacks the invated cell..thats why it

looks like your own body is doing the damage to your nerves...once you kill this

organism your body then has a chance to heal its self.. Im not Dr ..its just my

therey....My wife and I did the Dr route for 15 yrs ..took every drug they told

us to... but they just helped a syptom not the cause of the MS..I just watched

her slowly get worse in that time.. You read how bad she was june 6th when we

started..thats only 3 months +..She improved daily since then...July 1st we

stopped all the Drs medicine she was taking...Betaserun, baclifin disapan

zooloft and a few others... she is only on

vitamins, colloidalsilver and a glass of red wine if the hexheimer reaction

gets to annoying...The Hexheimer reation is actuly good it lets you know the

silver is killing the bug...The reactios my wife got were chiles, tingles in

areas of her body and a odd feeling inside at times..But what was nice the area

the tingles were in the next day .that area improved for her..Like when her

hands tingled the next day she had her control back in them and her feelings

too..If you want to try this please write back so I can tell you what else we

did to make sure my wife stayed healthy...and please keep me posted so it helps

spread the word it works.. You can call my wife and talk to her if you

want.. she is more then willing to talk about it... I hope this

helps you make a good choice on what to do....... Jim

Cara wrote:

Jim,

That is so great that your wife and the others have seen an

improvement in their MS symptoms. Where can we read about 's

experience?

So what is it about the colloidal silver that causes the

improvements in the MS symptoms? I know that colloidal silver is

effective at killing all pathogens. Is the theory that MS is caused

by a virus, or other pathogen, and killing the pathogen will cure

the MS? Is there something else the colloidal silver does that

could be having an effect on MS?

I personally believe that mercury poisoning, coupled with pathogens,

most likely candida, is the cause of MS. I don't know if they both

cause damage that leads to MS, or if the mercury just helps the

candida to grow and thrive and it really is the candida that causes

the damage. If the candida plays the major part, then it makes

sense that the colloidal silver, by killing off the candida, would

lead to improvement in MS symptoms. If that is the case, then the

Zapper could be just as effective, since it has been shown to kill

all pathogens as well.

Do you make your own colloidal silver? Do you purchase your

colloidal silver? You have to be very careful with high PPM silver

solutions because the high PPM may just indicate the presence of

larger particles of silver, not necessarily high amounts of the

smallest, more desirable particles. How do you check the quality of

the colloidal silver that you use?

I have heard that colloidal silver can accumulate in the body, and

could build up high levels in the body, being hard to elliminate.

Do you do a periodic heavy metal cleanse to prevent a potentially

harmful build up? I have heard of several people who's skin has

turned a blueish grey with long term, high dose colloidal silver

use. What do you do to prevent that?

Colloidal silver is also known to kill the good bacteria in the

intestinal tract. Do you give your wife a pro-biotic supplement

every day to replace the bacteria that is being killed off?

Sometimes we need to use ourselves as human guinea pigs to find out

for ourselves if a certain treatment will work for us.

Right now, I am using myself as a human guinea pig to test out the

mercury/candida theory. I removed all mercury fillings, am doing a

heavy metal detox, AND I am zapping to kill off candida/other

pathogens.

I really think a lot of these alternative therapies, that have shown

to have a positive effect on MS, are related, possibly causing the

same type of affect in the body. Combining some of these therapies

may prove to give faster, and more effective results. That is why I

decided to add Zapping to my mercury detox.

The more we share our experiences, the better we will be able to

figure this MonSter out.

Thanks for sharing and please keep us updated.

Cara

>

> I wish I could tell you this is the cure..The only person that

I know of so far was Delise.... She took it differantly then

I`m givin it to my wife.. she didnt know of the silver therapy

web site I found .. She took 10 and 20 ppm silver..but drank 16 oz a

day...this took her longer to build up the silver in her body to

20ppm This is the amount they say silver does it best killing in a

petri dish in a lab..it took her 2yrs to be MS free.. Taking it

this way a tablespoon of 5000ppm silver put in a glass of 8 oz

distilled water.. makes it 300ppm silver your taking..so it builds

up to 20ppm in the body faster thats why I think we saw faster

improvements..But story was good thou..cause just what

improvements she saw in weeks Adda saw in days..so we knew a bit of

what to look for..like the Hexheimer reactions she tells about.. So

far I only have 4 others taking it this way to tell you about ..

Adda my wife first... June 6th this year.. my wife could

> barely walk drop foot caused her to fall alot..her hand control

was so bad she could only type with 1 finger I had to cut her

food ..her MS slur was so bad you couldnt understand her.. No

feelings in her hands and feet..back and knee pain all the

time..shakes in her hands,, now she has her feelings back in her

hands and feet hand control back and can type again with all

fingers.. no drop foot anymore she walks on her own..not lady like

yet as she says..but on her own MS slur is gone..and no more

pain..

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cara

The only thing that the silver does you you in the body is kill 1 cell

organisms..bateria virus or fungus... So since it cure Delises MS it kill

the bug causing the MS what ever it is...But most likely it is the mycoplasma

orgamism..it is a slow growing hard to kill bug..that invades your cells and

lives off them..Your immune system then attacks the invated cell..thats why it

looks like your own body is doing the damage to your nerves...once you kill this

organism your body then has a chance to heal its self.. Im not Dr ..its just my

therey....My wife and I did the Dr route for 15 yrs ..took every drug they told

us to... but they just helped a syptom not the cause of the MS..I just watched

her slowly get worse in that time.. You read how bad she was june 6th when we

started..thats only 3 months +..She improved daily since then...July 1st we

stopped all the Drs medicine she was taking...Betaserun, baclifin disapan

zooloft and a few others... she is only on

vitamins, colloidalsilver and a glass of red wine if the hexheimer reaction

gets to annoying...The Hexheimer reation is actuly good it lets you know the

silver is killing the bug...The reactios my wife got were chiles, tingles in

areas of her body and a odd feeling inside at times..But what was nice the area

the tingles were in the next day .that area improved for her..Like when her

hands tingled the next day she had her control back in them and her feelings

too..If you want to try this please write back so I can tell you what else we

did to make sure my wife stayed healthy...and please keep me posted so it helps

spread the word it works.. You can call my wife and talk to her if you

want.. she is more then willing to talk about it... I hope this

helps you make a good choice on what to do....... Jim

Cara wrote:

Jim,

That is so great that your wife and the others have seen an

improvement in their MS symptoms. Where can we read about 's

experience?

So what is it about the colloidal silver that causes the

improvements in the MS symptoms? I know that colloidal silver is

effective at killing all pathogens. Is the theory that MS is caused

by a virus, or other pathogen, and killing the pathogen will cure

the MS? Is there something else the colloidal silver does that

could be having an effect on MS?

I personally believe that mercury poisoning, coupled with pathogens,

most likely candida, is the cause of MS. I don't know if they both

cause damage that leads to MS, or if the mercury just helps the

candida to grow and thrive and it really is the candida that causes

the damage. If the candida plays the major part, then it makes

sense that the colloidal silver, by killing off the candida, would

lead to improvement in MS symptoms. If that is the case, then the

Zapper could be just as effective, since it has been shown to kill

all pathogens as well.

Do you make your own colloidal silver? Do you purchase your

colloidal silver? You have to be very careful with high PPM silver

solutions because the high PPM may just indicate the presence of

larger particles of silver, not necessarily high amounts of the

smallest, more desirable particles. How do you check the quality of

the colloidal silver that you use?

I have heard that colloidal silver can accumulate in the body, and

could build up high levels in the body, being hard to elliminate.

Do you do a periodic heavy metal cleanse to prevent a potentially

harmful build up? I have heard of several people who's skin has

turned a blueish grey with long term, high dose colloidal silver

use. What do you do to prevent that?

Colloidal silver is also known to kill the good bacteria in the

intestinal tract. Do you give your wife a pro-biotic supplement

every day to replace the bacteria that is being killed off?

Sometimes we need to use ourselves as human guinea pigs to find out

for ourselves if a certain treatment will work for us.

Right now, I am using myself as a human guinea pig to test out the

mercury/candida theory. I removed all mercury fillings, am doing a

heavy metal detox, AND I am zapping to kill off candida/other

pathogens.

I really think a lot of these alternative therapies, that have shown

to have a positive effect on MS, are related, possibly causing the

same type of affect in the body. Combining some of these therapies

may prove to give faster, and more effective results. That is why I

decided to add Zapping to my mercury detox.

The more we share our experiences, the better we will be able to

figure this MonSter out.

Thanks for sharing and please keep us updated.

Cara

>

> I wish I could tell you this is the cure..The only person that

I know of so far was Delise.... She took it differantly then

I`m givin it to my wife.. she didnt know of the silver therapy

web site I found .. She took 10 and 20 ppm silver..but drank 16 oz a

day...this took her longer to build up the silver in her body to

20ppm This is the amount they say silver does it best killing in a

petri dish in a lab..it took her 2yrs to be MS free.. Taking it

this way a tablespoon of 5000ppm silver put in a glass of 8 oz

distilled water.. makes it 300ppm silver your taking..so it builds

up to 20ppm in the body faster thats why I think we saw faster

improvements..But story was good thou..cause just what

improvements she saw in weeks Adda saw in days..so we knew a bit of

what to look for..like the Hexheimer reactions she tells about.. So

far I only have 4 others taking it this way to tell you about ..

Adda my wife first... June 6th this year.. my wife could

> barely walk drop foot caused her to fall alot..her hand control

was so bad she could only type with 1 finger I had to cut her

food ..her MS slur was so bad you couldnt understand her.. No

feelings in her hands and feet..back and knee pain all the

time..shakes in her hands,, now she has her feelings back in her

hands and feet hand control back and can type again with all

fingers.. no drop foot anymore she walks on her own..not lady like

yet as she says..but on her own MS slur is gone..and no more

pain..

---------------------------------

Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

[Guest guest]

Jim, thanks for that info.

So basically, you are saying that the theory is that mycoplasma

causes MS, and anything that kills the mycoplasma would be effective

at curing MS.

I am very familiar with colloidal silver. I have used silver for

many things, even before my MS symptoms started, but never

considered it while looking for the cure for my MS.

The 2nd link you put lists other things to take in addition to

silver.

Are you using anything else with your wife, or just the silver?

Is the silver solution that you use colorless?

That silver is a bit expensive.

Have you tried microcurrent therapy? Microcurrents have been used

effectively against all viruses, bacteria, yeast, and parasites.

If you have high speed internet, this link about micro-current

therapy will work. The video is a bit fuzzy at first and then comes

in clear:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?

docid=2095786730805958061 & q=dr+bob+beck

You might have to copy the link and paste it into the web browser,

since it got split onto 2 lines.

Ken Presner also did mercury detox, and zapping with micro-currents

to overcome his MS AND his crohns disease:

http://zap.intergate.ca/sclerosi.html

This link talks about the mercury/parasite connection to MS

http://www.pamrotella.com/health/ms.html

I do microcurrent therapy with the Ultimate Zapper. (there are

several different brands out there) You can get the Ultimate Zapper

for $150 + $15 shipping. That is less than one of those bottles of

silver, and the ultimate zapper is a one time purchase, not every

month.

If the desired effect is to kill off all the micro-organisms in the

body, the zapper has shown to be just as effective as silver. Just

think, if you did both, you might have even greater results.

As I mentioned, I got all the mercury fillings out, am doing heavy

metal chelation, and I am doing microcurrent therapy. I am not

taking silver right now, because it is a heavy metal, and might

interfer with the mercury chelation.

I was Dx with MS June 20, 2006. I had mild symptoms. Before I

started the heavy metal detox, I had numbness on the bottoms of my

feet, around my midsection, and the palms of my hands. I had lost

some coordination in my arms, I had to concentrate really hard when

I was reaching for something, because I would often miss. The

numbness was getting worse in my hands, and seemed to be creeping up

my wrists. I had frequent intense itching in my left armpit, and

some memory problems.

I started taking some natuaral anti-inflammatory supplments, and one

that helps the body get rid of heavy metals and other toxins.

Before I even got to the dentist, the numbness in my feet was gone.

I got all my mercury fillings removed July 18 (by a dentist

experienced with safe mercury removal), and started a strong oral

chelation formula. Still doing the other supplements. A couple

weeks later, I got my zapper, and started zapping.

Today, the numbness around my midsection is gone, my memory has

improved, and the numbness in my hands is so mild, I hardly notice

it. The itching in my armpit only occurs occasionally, and is

mild. After I increased the oral chelation dose, I started feeling

hot and cold sensations in my legs come and go periodically. I

think this is due to the extra mercury that has been released from

my brain and is circulating in my body until it can be eliminated by

the kidneys. I am trying to drink extra water to help the kidneys

flush out the mercury.

Whenever anyone shares their success about a certain treatment, or

supplement they are taking, I always like to find out what is the

principle effect of that treatment on the body. If we can determine

the common thread in all of them, we will be that much closer to

figuring out the REAL cause(s) of MS, and how to effectively cure

this MonSter.

Cara

>

> Hi

> I hope this helps you too ..been working for my wife great and

in only 3 months.. read all about it .... I can tell you one thing

thou ..your Dr may not ok it ..even thou its safe to take... not

FDA aproved is all

> Jim

>

> The 1st web page tells you what is causing your MS..a mycoplasma

> 2nd tell you of how they are tring to cure you of the

mycoplasma..do note they want you to take along with there drugs is

collotail silver..plus they tell you about the hexheimer reactions

you will get when the bugs are dieing ...

> 3rd is Delise`s testamonail on how she cured her self of

MS

> 4th is the silver theropy web page on how much silver you have

to take look under MS

> 5th is were we got the silver I am giving my wife a quart

bottle..189. will last the 48 days they say you have to take it.

but like my wife you may need more we are working on second bottle

now..but we turned the clock back on her MS by atleast 12 yrs now..

> 6th just more info of Collodial silver

> Adda

and Jim

>

> http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/autoimmunity.htm

>

> http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/myco%20tx%20sugg.htm

> http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/ms-cured-

argentyn.html

> http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy/Ag-therapy.html

> http://www.ultrasilver.com/product/856799001106.html

> http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

[Guest guest]

Jim, thanks for that info.

So basically, you are saying that the theory is that mycoplasma

causes MS, and anything that kills the mycoplasma would be effective

at curing MS.

I am very familiar with colloidal silver. I have used silver for

many things, even before my MS symptoms started, but never

considered it while looking for the cure for my MS.

The 2nd link you put lists other things to take in addition to

silver.

Are you using anything else with your wife, or just the silver?

Is the silver solution that you use colorless?

That silver is a bit expensive.

Have you tried microcurrent therapy? Microcurrents have been used

effectively against all viruses, bacteria, yeast, and parasites.

If you have high speed internet, this link about micro-current

therapy will work. The video is a bit fuzzy at first and then comes

in clear:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?

docid=2095786730805958061 & q=dr+bob+beck

You might have to copy the link and paste it into the web browser,

since it got split onto 2 lines.

Ken Presner also did mercury detox, and zapping with micro-currents

to overcome his MS AND his crohns disease:

http://zap.intergate.ca/sclerosi.html

This link talks about the mercury/parasite connection to MS

http://www.pamrotella.com/health/ms.html

I do microcurrent therapy with the Ultimate Zapper. (there are

several different brands out there) You can get the Ultimate Zapper

for $150 + $15 shipping. That is less than one of those bottles of

silver, and the ultimate zapper is a one time purchase, not every

month.

If the desired effect is to kill off all the micro-organisms in the

body, the zapper has shown to be just as effective as silver. Just

think, if you did both, you might have even greater results.

As I mentioned, I got all the mercury fillings out, am doing heavy

metal chelation, and I am doing microcurrent therapy. I am not

taking silver right now, because it is a heavy metal, and might

interfer with the mercury chelation.

I was Dx with MS June 20, 2006. I had mild symptoms. Before I

started the heavy metal detox, I had numbness on the bottoms of my

feet, around my midsection, and the palms of my hands. I had lost

some coordination in my arms, I had to concentrate really hard when

I was reaching for something, because I would often miss. The

numbness was getting worse in my hands, and seemed to be creeping up

my wrists. I had frequent intense itching in my left armpit, and

some memory problems.

I started taking some natuaral anti-inflammatory supplments, and one

that helps the body get rid of heavy metals and other toxins.

Before I even got to the dentist, the numbness in my feet was gone.

I got all my mercury fillings removed July 18 (by a dentist

experienced with safe mercury removal), and started a strong oral

chelation formula. Still doing the other supplements. A couple

weeks later, I got my zapper, and started zapping.

Today, the numbness around my midsection is gone, my memory has

improved, and the numbness in my hands is so mild, I hardly notice

it. The itching in my armpit only occurs occasionally, and is

mild. After I increased the oral chelation dose, I started feeling

hot and cold sensations in my legs come and go periodically. I

think this is due to the extra mercury that has been released from

my brain and is circulating in my body until it can be eliminated by

the kidneys. I am trying to drink extra water to help the kidneys

flush out the mercury.

Whenever anyone shares their success about a certain treatment, or

supplement they are taking, I always like to find out what is the

principle effect of that treatment on the body. If we can determine

the common thread in all of them, we will be that much closer to

figuring out the REAL cause(s) of MS, and how to effectively cure

this MonSter.

Cara

>

> Hi

> I hope this helps you too ..been working for my wife great and

in only 3 months.. read all about it .... I can tell you one thing

thou ..your Dr may not ok it ..even thou its safe to take... not

FDA aproved is all

> Jim

>

> The 1st web page tells you what is causing your MS..a mycoplasma

> 2nd tell you of how they are tring to cure you of the

mycoplasma..do note they want you to take along with there drugs is

collotail silver..plus they tell you about the hexheimer reactions

you will get when the bugs are dieing ...

> 3rd is Delise`s testamonail on how she cured her self of

MS

> 4th is the silver theropy web page on how much silver you have

to take look under MS

> 5th is were we got the silver I am giving my wife a quart

bottle..189. will last the 48 days they say you have to take it.

but like my wife you may need more we are working on second bottle

now..but we turned the clock back on her MS by atleast 12 yrs now..

> 6th just more info of Collodial silver

> Adda

and Jim

>

> http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/autoimmunity.htm

>

> http://www.shasta.com/cybermom/myco%20tx%20sugg.htm

> http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/ms-cured-

argentyn.html

> http://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy/Ag-therapy.html

> http://www.ultrasilver.com/product/856799001106.html

> http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

[Guest guest]

Hi Cara,

You can make your own colloidal silver for pennies an ounce with the

devices featured at

http://tinyurl.com/rbtjt

It will only be between 10 and 20 ppm (not 500 ppm), but it will work if

you take enough of it often enough (I recommend a tablespoonful every

two hours, swished around in your mouth for five minutes before

swallowing).

Colloidal silver will be of little or no value in cases where MS is

triggered by something other than a pathogenic microorganism (e.g.,

mercury poisoning or a nutritional deficiency).

All the best,

Dudley

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany