Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 The highest source of Vitamin C on the planet is RED CURRANT BERRIES. > > For anyone interested in the natural form of those 2: > > Vitamin C > Take a orange pell and slice it into thin strips and let them dry out on your counter, then put them in a coffee grinder and grind to a fine powder, then mix away with your favorite choice > Vitamin B > All the B vitamins are found in nutritional yeast and do the same mix away > > > > > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, > Kopera > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 What does Dairy do?? I LOVE milk (skim) and yogurt, plus cheese. I figure I need the calcium and the protein....... Am I wrong? C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Sometime try Raw Milk and yourself will see the difference. I just even learned how to make cheese too, what fun. To learn more about Raw Milk go to www.westonaprice.com C wrote: What does Dairy do?? I LOVE milk (skim) and yogurt, plus cheese. I figure I need the calcium and the protein....... Am I wrong? C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 , Diet, another important factor, however is still being widely ignored. Yet when you actually study the epidemiology of MS you discover that the only environmental factors which correlates and explains the prevalence of MS in various parts of the world alongside Sunshine, is diet. In high prevalence areas the diet is generally high in dairy, cereal, grain and saturated fat content. In places where the consumption of dairy, cereal grain, and saturated fat is low, and the intake of fish is high (containing Omega 3 EFAs) the prevalence of MS is generally low. http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=show & pageid=398 & CFID=1356882 & CFTOKEN=\ 75416794 Humans are the only species to consume milk products, after being weaned. Danny Re: Re: Vitamin C, B What does Dairy do?? I LOVE milk (skim) and yogurt, plus cheese. I figure I need the calcium and the protein....... Am I wrong? C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi , According to this site, you're better off getting your calcium and protein from non-dairy sources: http://www.notmilk.com/ms.html Cyberguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 I don't think that Red Currant Berries actually are the highest source of Vitamin C on the Planet! The wolfberry, also known as the Goji berry, contains more beta carotene than carrots and an astonishing 500 times more vitamin C by weight than oranges. How much Vit C do red currant berries have? Cara > > The highest source of Vitamin C on the planet is RED CURRANT BERRIES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Gayle, I found a healthy chocolate, so when I crave chocolate, I just go for the good stuff. It is a dark organic chocolate, no milk, has ORAC of over 3000 per piece. No sugar, has natural xylitol as a sweetener. Yum, if you like dark chocolate, My 2 year old loves the stuff. I have to hide my stash from him, or he would eat it all. Extreme Health sells dried Goji berries from their website, I don't know how they compare in value, I haven't tried them. http://www.extremehealth-usa.com/goji-berries.html I drink a super nutritious drink called Ziwi that has Goji extract, Acai extract, and Fucoidan. The extracts are all the nutrients of the berries, but minus all the sugar that is in the berries. They use Agave nectar to sweeten it. Cara > > Yes, Danny - Australia, but not so sunny where I am at the moment. But the berries don't come from here. " Goji berries are small red berries that grow in the remote areas of Tibet, Mongolia and China. " I had to look it up. Wolf berries; Goji berries - same thing. I get them in bulk from a health food store - helps keep me on the straight and narrow when I crave things like chocolate. There's lots of info on the internet about them if you're interested. > Gayle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hi Gayle, Have you heard of the Australian Bush Plum, the Kakadu??? It has been reported to have between 1,000mg-5,300mg of Vitamin C per 100 grams. It has the highest level of Vitamin C for any fruit and is in the supplement that I use for an antioxidant, it has this and some other things. You should check it out since you live right there in Australia. Gayle ston wrote: >Yes, Danny - Australia, but not so sunny where I am at the moment. But the berries don't come from here. " Goji berries are small red berries that grow in the remote areas of Tibet, Mongolia and China. " I had to look it up. Wolf berries; Goji berries - same thing. I get them in bulk from a health food store - helps keep me on the straight and narrow when I crave things like chocolate. There's lots of info on the internet about them if you're interested. >Gayle > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Here's a good site for goji. http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/gogi-berries.htm Gayle ston wrote: Yes, Danny - Australia, but not so sunny where I am at the moment. But the berries don't come from here. " Goji berries are small red berries that grow in the remote areas of Tibet, Mongolia and China. " I had to look it up. Wolf berries; Goji berries - same thing. I get them in bulk from a health food store - helps keep me on the straight and narrow when I crave things like chocolate. There's lots of info on the internet about them if you're interested. Gayle --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I learned that after eating sugar the immune system is comprimised significantly for 6 hours. For this reason if you do have a sweet tooth the doctor I was listening to said it would be better to eat the sweets all at once instead of spread throughout the day. Pugh wrote: >Don't go crazy Danny. Dark chocolate is better than milk chocolate but it still contains sugar. Sugar will wipe out your immune system. Chocolate also contains theobromine, a neurostimulant. Moderation is the key. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I learned that after eating sugar the immune system is comprimised significantly for 6 hours. For this reason if you do have a sweet tooth the doctor I was listening to said it would be better to eat the sweets all at once instead of spread throughout the day. Pugh wrote: >Don't go crazy Danny. Dark chocolate is better than milk chocolate but it still contains sugar. Sugar will wipe out your immune system. Chocolate also contains theobromine, a neurostimulant. Moderation is the key. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hi Gayle, From what I have heard they are harvesting them from where the Aborigiones live, way up high in very rough climate. They trried to bring the plants down and grow them in green houses and found that they value went way down. Apparently the harsh climates where these plants are growing naturally causes the plant to need antioxidants and therefore has this abundance of Vitamin C and some other things. If you really want some you can get it mixed with some other ingredients that make up a great antioxidant. COntact me privately and I can tell you where to obtain. Gayle ston wrote: >I had a look for info on bush plums - I'd never heard of them before. A >can't see that they're available commercially, and they grow a bit too far >away for me to be harvesting them myself! Central Australia - not a place I >go on a regular basis! But thanks for the info. I now know a little more >about our bush tucker. What I do have is lots of is Lilly Pilly's - they're >edible berries, but not in the race for vitamin C, unfortunately. But they >do attract the birds... >I just saw another post about chocolate, on another site. Now I want >chocolate too! >Gayle > >-- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 , Interesting about the Austrailian Bush Plum. How does that compare to Goji Berries, or even oranges? 1000mg to 5300mg is pretty variable. how would you know if you are getting the 1000mg plum, or the 5300mg plum? What is the ORAC value of your antioxidant supplement? Cara > > Hi Gayle, > > Have you heard of the Australian Bush Plum, the Kakadu??? It has been > reported to have between 1,000mg-5,300mg of Vitamin C per 100 grams. It > has the highest level of Vitamin C for any fruit and is in the > supplement that I use for an antioxidant, it has this and some other > things. You should check it out since you live right there in Australia. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 I didn't start this. These " bush plums " just won't go away. I'd definitely like to try one sometime. Re: Vitamin C, B , Interesting about the Austrailian Bush Plum. How does that compare to Goji Berries, or even oranges? 1000mg to 5300mg is pretty variable. how would you know if you are getting the 1000mg plum, or the 5300mg plum? What is the ORAC value of your antioxidant supplement? Cara > > Hi Gayle, > > Have you heard of the Australian Bush Plum, the Kakadu??? It has been > reported to have between 1,000mg-5,300mg of Vitamin C per 100 grams. It > has the highest level of Vitamin C for any fruit and is in the > supplement that I use for an antioxidant, it has this and some other > things. You should check it out since you live right there in Australia. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Gayle, I was wondering what you meant by Zillion, LOL. Glad you clarified in your next post. I only know of one dark chocolate sweetened with Xylitol instead of sugar. Send me an email, and I can tell you more about it. Cara > > Everyone stop talking about chocolate! I'm a recovering " chocaholic " ! But > I'll look out for the dark chocolate with Zillion - I haven't even looked > since I decided it wasn't on my diet. > Gayle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Hi Cara, You have to realize that all natural foods vary in their content of nutrients. It would depend on type, when harvested, and how long after harvesting is it being processed. For this reason good supplement companies use standardization so that you will know you are actually getting X amount of nutrient in the bottle. Below is a graph I found to compare the amount of Vitamin C in citrus to the bush plum. This chart would represent the average not the low or the high. The Orac-O score of the supplement I take is 17,264 which is very high uses synergy to get this affect and is also effective for fat stored toxins where as most are not. *Australian Bush Plum* /By Eileen Vennum and Jane Ramberg/ View a PDF version of this document. <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> Printable version <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> Author biographies <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> Author biographies <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> Source: fruit of Terminalia ferdinandiana Synonyms: _English terms:_ green plum <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, goat plum^1 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6309 & NUMBER=1> , ^2 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> , ^3 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> _Aboriginal terms:_ gabiny, gabinji, kabiny, madoor, madoorroo, murunga, yaminyarri, ^4 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> , ^5 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> Species of Terminalia are used in many parts of the world as food, traditional medicine and timber.^6 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6371 & NUMBER=6> The Australian bush plum <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, /Terminalia ferdinandiana/, is a small deciduous tree found in northwestern Australia.^7 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6370 & NUMBER=7> During the wet season extending from January through March, the plant produces small plum-like fruits that look and taste like gooseberries.^2 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> (Figure A) Click here to open a full-sized downloadable PDF (presentation-quality) version of this figure. <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> The plums <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> are a popular treat for Aboriginal children and are favored for quick energy by adults on hunting trips.^2 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> The plums <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> can be made into a beverage as well. ^4 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> .. The people of central Arnhem Land regard the fruit more as a medicine than a food.^5 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> The gum <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> of the tree is also edible, but when mixed with water, it can be used topically to treat skin sores, backache, and sore feet.^3 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> , ^4 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> , ^5 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> Nutrient analyses indicate that the fruit contains small amounts of vitamins <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788>B1 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>and B2 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>; it also contains sodium, potassium <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=701>, magnesium <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1007>, calcium <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=998>, iron <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1006>, zinc <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1027>, copper <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1071>, and phosphorus <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=688>. With an average vitamin <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024>C <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> content of 3.0-3.5% (range = 0.2 to 5.9%), the bush plum <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> provides the most concentrated natural <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> source of vitamin <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024>C <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> known. ^7 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6370 & NUMBER=7> By contrast, citrus fruits contain merely 0.05% vitamin C!^8 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=5630 & NUMBER=8> , ^9 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=5011 & NUMBER=9> , ^10 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6183 & NUMBER=10> (Figure The typical bush plum <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> contains about 2907 mg <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> vitamin <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1020> <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1020>C/100 g edible fruit, and as <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1020> much as 5320 mg/100 g was measured in one variety. ^1 <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6309 & NUMBER=1> <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> Cara wrote: >, >Interesting about the Austrailian Bush Plum. How does that compare to >Goji Berries, or even oranges? 1000mg to 5300mg is pretty variable. >how would you know if you are getting the 1000mg plum, or the 5300mg >plum? > >What is the ORAC value of your antioxidant supplement? > >Cara > > >- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Do you know anything that helps nerve pain? Kathy --- " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: > Hi Cara, > > You have to realize that all natural foods vary in > their content of > nutrients. It would depend on type, when harvested, > and how long after > harvesting is it being processed. For this reason > good supplement > companies use standardization so that you will know > you are actually > getting X amount of nutrient in the bottle. Below is > a graph I found to > compare the amount of Vitamin C in citrus to the > bush plum. This chart > would represent the average not the low or the high. > The Orac-O score of > the supplement I take is 17,264 which is very high > uses synergy to get > this affect and is also effective for fat stored > toxins where as most > are not. > > > > > > *Australian Bush Plum* > > /By Eileen Vennum and Jane Ramberg/ > > View a PDF version of this document. > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > Printable version > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > Author biographies > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> > > Author biographies > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> > > > > Source: fruit of Terminalia ferdinandiana > > Synonyms: _English terms:_ green plum > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, > > goat plum^1 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6309 & NUMBER=1> > > , ^2 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > , ^3 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> > > _Aboriginal terms:_ gabiny, gabinji, kabiny, madoor, > madoorroo, murunga, > yaminyarri, ^4 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > , ^5 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > Species of Terminalia are used in many parts of the > world as food, > traditional medicine and timber.^6 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6371 & NUMBER=6> > > The Australian bush plum > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, > > /Terminalia ferdinandiana/, is a small deciduous > tree found in > northwestern Australia.^7 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6370 & NUMBER=7> > > During the wet season extending from January through > March, the plant > produces small plum-like fruits that look and taste > like gooseberries.^2 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > (Figure A) > > > Click here to open a full-sized downloadable PDF > (presentation-quality) > version of this figure. > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > The plums > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > are a > popular treat for Aboriginal children and are > favored for quick energy > by adults on hunting trips.^2 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > The plums > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > can > be made into a beverage as well. ^4 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > . The people of central Arnhem Land regard the fruit > more as a medicine > than a food.^5 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > The gum > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > of the tree is also edible, but when mixed with > water, it can be used > topically to treat skin sores, backache, and sore > feet.^3 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> > > , ^4 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > , ^5 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > Nutrient analyses indicate that the fruit contains > small amounts of > vitamins > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788>B1 > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>and > B2 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>; > it > also contains sodium, potassium > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=701>, > > magnesium > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1007>, > > calcium > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=998>, > iron > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1006>, > zinc > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1027>, > > copper > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1071>, > and > phosphorus > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=688>. > With > an average vitamin > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024>C > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> > > content of 3.0-3.5% (range = 0.2 to 5.9%), the bush > plum > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > > provides the most concentrated natural > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > source of vitamin > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024>C > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1024> > > known. ^7 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6370 & NUMBER=7> > > By contrast, citrus fruits contain merely 0.05% > vitamin C!^8 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=5630 & NUMBER=8> > > , ^9 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=5011 & NUMBER=9> > > , ^10 > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6183 & NUMBER=10> > > (Figure The typical bush plum > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > > contains about 2907 mg > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > vitamin > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Kathy, I would think reducing inflamation in the body and increasing circulation are the best things. For me that meant getting some nutrition in me that would do that like fish oil, glyconutrients, heart support supplements. ALso making sure the spine is aligned properly and no pinching is going on anywhere. I used to have a tight bank of pain on my leg, felt like someone squeezing my leg and then my foot would be so cold it would burn. The last time I had this was last winter sometime and I was sitting alot at the computer cause it rained for days and days so I know circulation played a part for me. Have you ruled out the spine and neck? Kathy wrote: >Do you know anything that helps nerve pain? Kathy >--- " Kindscher (Charter) " > wrote: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I've been taking Calcium-AEP for over two weeks now. With in 5 days I noticed that my fingers, hands and toes didn't hurt any longer. Which has made me happier and life a little better. Now i'm going to start working on getting off the other meds that I'm taking. Penny --- Kathy wrote: > Do you know anything that helps nerve pain? Kathy > --- " Kindscher (Charter) " > wrote: > > > Hi Cara, > > > > You have to realize that all natural foods vary in > > their content of > > nutrients. It would depend on type, when > harvested, > > and how long after > > harvesting is it being processed. For this reason > > good supplement > > companies use standardization so that you will > know > > you are actually > > getting X amount of nutrient in the bottle. Below > is > > a graph I found to > > compare the amount of Vitamin C in citrus to the > > bush plum. This chart > > would represent the average not the low or the > high. > > The Orac-O score of > > the supplement I take is 17,264 which is very high > > uses synergy to get > > this affect and is also effective for fat stored > > toxins where as most > > are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Australian Bush Plum* > > > > /By Eileen Vennum and Jane Ramberg/ > > > > View a PDF version of this document. > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > Printable version > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > > > Author biographies > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> > > > > Author biographies > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> > > > > > > > > Source: fruit of Terminalia ferdinandiana > > > > Synonyms: _English terms:_ green plum > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, > > > > goat plum^1 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6309 & NUMBER=1> > > > > , ^2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > > > , ^3 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> > > > > _Aboriginal terms:_ gabiny, gabinji, kabiny, > madoor, > > madoorroo, murunga, > > yaminyarri, ^4 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > > > , ^5 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > > > Species of Terminalia are used in many parts of > the > > world as food, > > traditional medicine and timber.^6 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6371 & NUMBER=6> > > > > The Australian bush plum > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, > > > > /Terminalia ferdinandiana/, is a small deciduous > > tree found in > > northwestern Australia.^7 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6370 & NUMBER=7> > > > > During the wet season extending from January > through > > March, the plant > > produces small plum-like fruits that look and > taste > > like gooseberries.^2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > > > (Figure A) > > > > > > Click here to open a full-sized downloadable PDF > > (presentation-quality) > > version of this figure. > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > The plums > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > > are a > > popular treat for Aboriginal children and are > > favored for quick energy > > by adults on hunting trips.^2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > > > The plums > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > > can > > be made into a beverage as well. ^4 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > > > . The people of central Arnhem Land regard the > fruit > > more as a medicine > > than a food.^5 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > > > The gum > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > of the tree is also edible, but when mixed with > > water, it can be used > > topically to treat skin sores, backache, and sore > > feet.^3 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> > > > > , ^4 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > > > , ^5 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > > > Nutrient analyses indicate that the fruit contains > > small amounts of > > vitamins > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> > > > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788>B1 > > > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> > > > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>and > > B2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>; > > it > > also contains sodium, potassium > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=701>, > > > > magnesium > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1007>, > > > > calcium > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=998>, > > iron > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1006>, > > zinc > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1027>, > > > === message truncated === Take care of you........... 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Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I have been seeing a chiropractor but the pain still remains. It is the absolute worst at night. My right leg especially the sciatic, all the way to my toes. Whirlpool helps and stretching. I am scheduled for a nerve block next week, I just want relief. I even use capsacin creme with very little relief. I would appreciate any suggestions.Kathy --- " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: > Kathy, > > I would think reducing inflamation in the body and > increasing > circulation are the best things. For me that meant > getting some > nutrition in me that would do that like fish oil, > glyconutrients, heart > support supplements. ALso making sure the spine is > aligned properly and > no pinching is going on anywhere. I used to have a > tight bank of pain on > my leg, felt like someone squeezing my leg and then > my foot would be so > cold it would burn. The last time I had this was > last winter sometime > and I was sitting alot at the computer cause it > rained for days and days > so I know circulation played a part for me. Have you > ruled out the spine > and neck? > > Kathy wrote: > > >Do you know anything that helps nerve pain? Kathy > >--- " Kindscher (Charter) " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 The best relief I got for my sciatia pain was accunpuncture. Then from here I learned the points that I could work my self and I have not needed to return since. You need strong hands or someone who can help, or I use a tennis ball on a hard surface and lay over it and work the scictic point. It hurts bad while your are working it but then the pain in the leg goes away. I use the same things for my hand pain which is related to my neck, I have 3 points I work for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Thanks for the info. I do take 3 valerian each night and sleep with a pillow between my legs. I'll look for the Padma28. Kathy --- Pugh wrote: > Hi Kathy, I used to have that pain all the time too. > I take Padma 28 now if the pain returns. It's an > herbal formula that helps with circulation. > Sometimes I take valerian root. Both are just > temporary, for symptomatic relief. I sleep with a > pillow under my knees and that helps too. My back > hurts in the lumbar area if I lie down flat and the > change in posture keeps from pinching sciatic > nerves. > > Kathy wrote: I > have been seeing a chiropractor but the pain still > remains. It is the absolute worst at night. My right > leg especially the sciatic, all the way to my toes. > Whirlpool helps and stretching. I am scheduled for a > nerve block next week, I just want relief. I even > use > capsacin creme with very little relief. I would > appreciate any suggestions.Kathy > > --- " Kindscher (Charter) " > wrote: > > > Kathy, > > > > I would think reducing inflamation in the body and > > increasing > > circulation are the best things. For me that meant > > getting some > > nutrition in me that would do that like fish oil, > > glyconutrients, heart > > support supplements. ALso making sure the spine is > > aligned properly and > > no pinching is going on anywhere. I used to have a > > tight bank of pain on > > my leg, felt like someone squeezing my leg and > then > > my foot would be so > > cold it would burn. The last time I had this was > > last winter sometime > > and I was sitting alot at the computer cause it > > rained for days and days > > so I know circulation played a part for me. Have > you > > ruled out the spine > > and neck? > > > > Kathy wrote: > > > > >Do you know anything that helps nerve pain? Kathy > > >--- " Kindscher (Charter) " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I'll try that too. Thanks, Kathy --- Kindscher wrote: > > The best relief I got for my sciatia pain was > accunpuncture. Then from > here I learned the points that I could work my self > and I have not > needed to return since. You need strong hands or > someone who can help, > or I use a tennis ball on a hard surface and lay > over it and work the > scictic point. It hurts bad while your are working > it but then the > pain in the leg goes away. I use the same things for > my hand pain > which is related to my neck, I have 3 points I work > for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 LIVING IN GEORGIA & HAVING MS IS KIND OF TOUGH FOR ME. I HAVE GOT WHERE I SPEND ALOT OF TIME IN MY WHEEL CHAIR. I HAT IT BUT I LIKE MY TEETH & I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHEN I'M GOING TO FALL. I WANT MY MS FRIENDS TO KNOW I GOT MY B12 PATCHES YESTERDAY & I CAN REALLY TELL A DIFERENCE IN A GOOD WAY. Kathy wrote: I have been seeing a chiropractor but the pain still remains. It is the absolute worst at night. My right leg especially the sciatic, all the way to my toes. Whirlpool helps and stretching. I am scheduled for a nerve block next week, I just want relief. I even use capsacin creme with very little relief. I would appreciate any suggestions.Kathy --- " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: > Kathy, > > I would think reducing inflamation in the body and > increasing > circulation are the best things. For me that meant > getting some > nutrition in me that would do that like fish oil, > glyconutrients, heart > support supplements. ALso making sure the spine is > aligned properly and > no pinching is going on anywhere. I used to have a > tight bank of pain on > my leg, felt like someone squeezing my leg and then > my foot would be so > cold it would burn. The last time I had this was > last winter sometime > and I was sitting alot at the computer cause it > rained for days and days > so I know circulation played a part for me. Have you > ruled out the spine > and neck? > > Kathy wrote: > > >Do you know anything that helps nerve pain? Kathy > >--- " Kindscher (Charter) " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Are you doing injectible? Re: Re: Vitamin C, B I've been taking Calcium-AEP for over two weeks now. With in 5 days I noticed that my fingers, hands and toes didn't hurt any longer. Which has made me happier and life a little better. Now i'm going to start working on getting off the other meds that I'm taking. Penny --- Kathy wrote: > Do you know anything that helps nerve pain? Kathy > --- " Kindscher (Charter) " > wrote: > > > Hi Cara, > > > > You have to realize that all natural foods vary in > > their content of > > nutrients. It would depend on type, when > harvested, > > and how long after > > harvesting is it being processed. For this reason > > good supplement > > companies use standardization so that you will > know > > you are actually > > getting X amount of nutrient in the bottle. Below > is > > a graph I found to > > compare the amount of Vitamin C in citrus to the > > bush plum. This chart > > would represent the average not the low or the > high. > > The Orac-O score of > > the supplement I take is 17,264 which is very high > > uses synergy to get > > this affect and is also effective for fat stored > > toxins where as most > > are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Australian Bush Plum* > > > > /By Eileen Vennum and Jane Ramberg/ > > > > View a PDF version of this document. > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > Printable version > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > > > Author biographies > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> > > > > Author biographies > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=EDITORIAL & MA\ IN=editorial> > > > > > > > > Source: fruit of Terminalia ferdinandiana > > > > Synonyms: _English terms:_ green plum > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, > > > > goat plum^1 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6309 & NUMBER=1> > > > > , ^2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > > > , ^3 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> > > > > _Aboriginal terms:_ gabiny, gabinji, kabiny, > madoor, > > madoorroo, murunga, > > yaminyarri, ^4 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > > > , ^5 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > > > Species of Terminalia are used in many parts of > the > > world as food, > > traditional medicine and timber.^6 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6371 & NUMBER=6> > > > > The Australian bush plum > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130>, > > > > /Terminalia ferdinandiana/, is a small deciduous > > tree found in > > northwestern Australia.^7 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6370 & NUMBER=7> > > > > During the wet season extending from January > through > > March, the plant > > produces small plum-like fruits that look and > taste > > like gooseberries.^2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > > > (Figure A) > > > > > > Click here to open a full-sized downloadable PDF > > (presentation-quality) > > version of this figure. > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > The plums > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > > are a > > popular treat for Aboriginal children and are > > favored for quick energy > > by adults on hunting trips.^2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6372 & NUMBER=2> > > > > The plums > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1130> > > can > > be made into a beverage as well. ^4 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > > > . The people of central Arnhem Land regard the > fruit > > more as a medicine > > than a food.^5 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > > > The gum > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/document_viewer.wm?FILENAME=H411#> > > > > of the tree is also edible, but when mixed with > > water, it can be used > > topically to treat skin sores, backache, and sore > > feet.^3 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6369 & NUMBER=3> > > > > , ^4 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6374 & NUMBER=4> > > > > , ^5 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/reference.wm?REFID=6373 & NUMBER=5> > > > > Nutrient analyses indicate that the fruit contains > > small amounts of > > vitamins > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> > > > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788>B1 > > > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=788> > > > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>and > > B2 > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1145>; > > it > > also contains sodium, potassium > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=701>, > > > > magnesium > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1007>, > > > > calcium > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=998>, > > iron > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1006>, > > zinc > > > <http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?ID=1027>, > > > === message truncated === Take care of you........... 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