Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Ok Folks.. thanks to Krandall I think we're in business Her instructions that she sent to the list should pretty much work for everyone on PCs, but you'll have to send the attached files via regular email, not through the list Jan " Typing is my life " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Good luck, Jan, with this project. We used to do it when the MT Chat channel on IRC was active, and it was quite helpful. We used Windows Sound Recorder and created a .wav file. On my Win 95 system, it goes like this: Click Programs - Accessories - Multimedia - Sound Recorder The microphone for the PC needs to be very near (directly over or next to, if possible) the external speaker of your transcriber, C-phone, etc. When ready to start, click the " red circle " (record) button. When ready to stop, click the " black rectangle " (stop) button. Include some " before and after " context but not too much so as to keep the recording to a minimum since the size of a wav file increases rapidly. For example, a wave file that is only 2.43 seconds long is already 107.5 kilobytes (KB) in size when using my apparent default setting of PCM 22,050 Hz, 16 Bit, Mono (which is 43 KB per second). The larger the file size, the longer it takes to be received, whether via email or file transfer in a chat room setting, ICQ, IM, etc. By clicking on File - Properties you can adjust the format to save space. Change " Select from " to " Playback formats " and then click on " Convert Now " - select a " lower " format such as 8,000 Hz, 8 Bit, Mono (which is only 8 KB per second). My original " test " file is now only 19.5 KB instead of the original 107.5 KB. It is now a significantly " smaller " file that can be sent more efficiently. The sound is of lesser quality but usually not enough to make a difference, based on my experience. When we were in the " chat " environment, the person with the wav file who needed help " sent " it to each of the others. Each of us then " played " the wav file and were often able to help out. I don't think this list allows " attachments " to come through because some (not all) of the messages that come through NMTC have the following statement on them: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 I have just started to install an online program to let others upload their wave files to my web space. Then the file can be download by visiting a generated link. (The link would contain, for example, 32 random characters to ensure only forum members could download it.) I will let you know if it is ready by tomorrow morning. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 , This would be great. I am one of those people who knows absolutely nothing about this kind of thing, as I do work for a hospital using Lanier which does not go through my computer. So, would I need to get a wav pedal or do anything to be able to listen to these files. I know I would if I wanted to upload something, but I will probably mostly be wanting to help people with questions by listening, so I am just trying to figure out how this works. Thanks for any help, Margaret >>> " " 04/26/01 08:09PM >>> I have just started to install an online program to let others upload their wave files to my web space. Then the file can be download by visiting a generated link. (The link would contain, for example, 32 random characters to ensure only forum members could download it.) I will let you know if it is ready by tomorrow morning. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Kim, The hospital PC did not come with speakers, but by now I am pretty sure that everyone has bought speakers. Couldn't type without listening to my music you know. Thanks for the info. Margaret >>> " Kim Randall " 04/26/01 08:15PM >>> Margaret, As far as just " listening " to a wav file goes, you don't need a wav pedal. All you do is click on the filename, and all Windows PCs use standard Windows software to " open " and " play " it back. There are even buttons for rewinding, pause, stop, fast forward, etc. Having wav pedal capability and software would allow you to further " manipulate " the playback but the standard Windows software will play it over your speakers " as is " -- unless, of course, your hospital PC doesn't have speakers maybe? Re: Sound files for others to listen to , This would be great. I am one of those people who knows absolutely nothing about this kind of thing, as I do work for a hospital using Lanier which does not go through my computer. So, would I need to get a wav pedal or do anything to be able to listen to these files. I know I would if I wanted to upload something, but I will probably mostly be wanting to help people with questions by listening, so I am just trying to figure out how this works. Thanks for any help, Margaret >>> " " 04/26/01 08:09PM >>> I have just started to install an online program to let others upload their wave files to my web space. Then the file can be download by visiting a generated link. (The link would contain, for example, 32 random characters to ensure only forum members could download it.) I will let you know if it is ready by tomorrow morning. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 I am coming in on the end of this thread - I had a dog with a systemic anaphylactic reaction this morning and I am just now getting back on track. (dog is fine!) Cant the sound files be uploaded to the files section of this NMTC list at Yahoogroups? There should be 20 meg of allocated files space for each yahoogroups list. List members could download them from there. Aloha, Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Pam, That sounds like it might work, but then anyone who did this would have to notify everyone where to go and what to listen to in order to get an answer. I don't know about the rest of you, but my browser (although faster than 56K) is still not as fast as though of you with cable or DSL lines, so it would take more time for me to go to an internet site, find it and listen to it. Just my opinion. Margaret PS I sure am glad your dog is doing okay. I know that can be scary. MG >>> " Pam Haley " 04/26/01 10:22PM >>> I am coming in on the end of this thread - I had a dog with a systemic anaphylactic reaction this morning and I am just now getting back on track. (dog is fine!) Cant the sound files be uploaded to the files section of this NMTC list at Yahoogroups? There should be 20 meg of allocated files space for each yahoogroups list. List members could download them from there. Aloha, Pam TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to nmtc-unsubscribe PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Jan, People would have to make a choice as to whom the files would actually be sent. Reply to all sends the reply to the group and to the person who sent the message you are replying to. For instance, I have just hit " reply to all " on this message. It will now go to NMTC and to you (Jan). From what Kim Randall said, I believe if I attached a file to this message, the attachment would go to you, but it would not go to anyone else at NMTC. However, people could be picky and only send the files they wanted to have listened to to certain people. This would only create problems in the middle of the night, when it is hard to tell who is up and would be receiving. But even in this instance, they could send out one message and ask who is around and then send out the message with the attachment to those who responded to the original message. This is very doable, it is just a little more complicated and will need to be thought out. Also, we will all want to be very careful about the attachments that we open, making sure to only open ones that are actual wave files, so as to never accidentally open a virus. Just a little note of caution there since I have been sent the SnowWhite virus about five or six times this week. Margaret >>> 04/26/01 10:36PM >>> In a message dated 04-26-01 10:27:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MGrant@... writes: << That sounds like it might work, but then anyone who did this would have to notify everyone where to go and what to listen to in order to get an answer. I don't know about the rest of you, but my browser (although faster than 56K) is still not as fast as though of you with cable or DSL lines, so it would take more time for me to go to an internet site, find it and listen to it. Just my opinion. >> Margaret: That's why I was thinking just sending the wav file to those of us who wanted to hear it would work, but it would have to be sent directly instead of through nmtc. I believe if one hits Reply to all it will do that. So far everyone who has responded is on a PC, so the instructions should work for everyone, although I'm not positive about Win ME since i've never used it. I wasn't sure whether anyone was on a MAC or not, in which case I'd be totally stumped But, as I said, that wouldn't be the end of the world because I chat with people on AOL who are on MACs and they could send me the instructions needed. Jan " Typing is my life " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 A rough draft of a program to upload files is now available at: http://www.mtmentors.com/nmtc After a file is uploaded, a randomized link is generated to the download file. One can then easily copy-and-paste the link into one's message. I welcome any suggestions. As an added security, I plan to download files after 72 hours or so after upload. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 I meant delete: " As an added security, I plan to download files after 72 hours or so after upload. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Pam is correct that we could just upload the files to the forum's files section. Of course, the moderator would have to lift the " no uploads " restriction. I don't think file size is a major issue if the file is editted (such as by Window's Sound Recorder) to just have the statement(s) in question. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 , this is SO cool. Thank you! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie Career Step student 46/Texas Current specialty: Studying A & P - The Sensory Organs ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- > A rough draft of a program to upload files is now available at: > http://www.mtmentors.com/nmtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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