Re: What is this?

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To me it sounds like hormonal imbalances is definaely contributing to

the problem. The depression, the heart beat, the sleeping and then not

is all hormonal. I know alot about Bi-polar but even though the post is

very long there is not alot of info about what is really going on. It

sounds like he has taken so many drugs and most of the ones used for

depression are very dangerous, hard to get off of and really screw you

up. Some of the things he is experiencing now could be related to that.

Like every thing else, its not an easy answer and not one thing is going

to help him. He defeinately dialogues like someone who is depressed.

stephenszpak wrote:

> Hi All

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> I met someone on-line that has these symptoms. I think it

> is mercury poisoning. If any one has any ideas I/we would like to

> hear them.

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" Could be he/she did not take the Nutrients mentioned such as 5-HTP;

Choline; Magnesium...writer states did not notice any long term

effect...that is because one must ingest the Vitamins and Nutritional

supplements for atleast 6 months; Vitamins " take time to work... " A.--

- In mscured , " stephenszpak "

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> Hi All

>

> I met someone on-line that has these symptoms. I think it

> is mercury poisoning. If any one has any ideas I/we would like to

> hear them.

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> Maybe we can reseach your problem over time?

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> I don't know. I've been researching it off and on for years.

> Exactly what my problem is is a complete mystery as it doesn't

> particularly fit the mold for any diagnosis. Pretty much any

> mental problem a person can have, there are like a dozen

> symtoms, and each problem has a specific combination of those

> symptoms to indicate it. I don't much fit the symptoms of

> bipolar any more than I fit the symptoms of a migraine. I

> actually have most of the symptoms of migraine, absent the

> headache, and " painless migraine " actually returns 500 results

> in Google, so it's apparently not completely unheard of either.

> (and come to think of it, perhaps that's why over the years I

> haven't managed to find any medication that successfully treats

> it, a migraine without a headache is probably the last thing a

> doctor expects to encounter) So I don't know, last week I was

> thinking bipolar, this week I'm thinking migraine, but I really

> have no idea.

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> Every doctor I've ever been to has come to the conclusion that

> it is plain vanilla depression, but that doesn't account for a

> lot of my symptoms, and the medications for it aren't any help.

> In particular, last November I came up with a theory as to a

> possible cause for my depression, which amounted to little more

> than what I watch on television, and simply not watching so much

> stupid shit on television has been the best treatment for it

> I've ever discovered.

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> > We could look at this from the drug standpoint or the natural

> way.

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> It really makes no difference to me, I'd be happy with anything

> that would work, but it's worth mentioning that I went through

> about a dozen different medications when I was seeing a doctor,

> of which they all either didn't work, or caused some other

> side-effect such as sleeping that is even more excessive than my

> already excessive sleep. I also at one time had a collection of

> dietary supplements that would rival a drug store. Most of them

> obviously didn't do anything, though I had some luck with GABA,

> DMAE, 5-HTP, Choline, Magnesium, Potassium (from orange juice,

> the supplents in stores contain too little to be effective), and

> vitamine E, though none of them had a long term effect,

> otherwise I would still be taking them.

>

> At one point in time, sometime last year, I decided to have a

> look at why I sleep so much. This too seems to come in phases,

> some weeks I'll sleep 13 hours a day, then others I'll sleep

> only 6. Generally when sleeping 13 I'll feel like getting out

> of bed, but simply be unable to, and when sleeping 6 I'll very

> much want to go back to bed and get some more sleep, but be

> unable to. To try to figure this out I put some of my

> electronics knowledge to use and built some test equipment to

> test wether I had one of the many sleeping disorders. With a

> breathing monitor I was able to determine that I do not have

> sleep Apnea, but I ultimately couldn't figure out a way to build

> any other test equipment without money I didn't have, so I

> couldn't test for anything else. I did also create a heart

> monitor, and with it I could see that I seem to have an ordinary

> EEG, except that my heartrate is rather irregular in that it

> will beat regularly at 70 beats per minute, then suddenly pause

> fo!

> r a

> period about one and a half times the normal period between

> beats, and then continue like normal. I also noticed that my

> heart rate ocassionally increases for seemingly no reason at

> all. In paticular, I once awoke for the simple reason that it

> felt as if my heart was about to beat itself out of my chest (I

> actually remember being asleep and thinking " I should wake up

> and see what the hell is going on " ) and then I looked on the

> computer, and sure enough for the last few minutes my heart had

> been beating about twice as fast as usual. I have no idea why,

> I obviously wasn't having a strange dream as I remembered simply

> thinking to myself and not even having a dream when it occured,

> and waking up didn't immediately cause it to knock it off.

>

> So overall, I don't have a clue what my problem is. All I know

> is that I'm prone to excessive and inappropriate emotions as far

> as being happy and sad goes, I go though phases of sleeping too

> much and sleeping too little, sometimes I can do things (such as

> computer or electronics projects) that are so amazing I amaze

> even myself while other times I feel as if I can hardly think at

> all, sometimes I want to do nothing but eat, while other times I

> won't bother to make myself something to eat until I'm about to

> pass out from hunger, and there's also the heart problems I was

> talking about.

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> Also, on two occasions I've had this sort of visual problem

> which I have no idea what it was, but it started out as just a

> small blind spot nearly in the center of my vision. I was

> watching television when I noticed that occassionally it looked

> as if someone on television was missing one of their eyes.

> Eventually I realized that it was a blind spot. You may or may

> not know that everyone has a blind spot in each eye, off to the

> side somewhere. You can't see it because your brain fills it in

> with whatever colors surround it, so for the most part it always

> looks as if it isn't even there. Of course, my new blind spot

> wasn't that spot, but was a new one. Anyway, it was being

> filled in in the same way, with the colors that surrounded it,

> and so when I was looking at someone's face, the spot covered

> one of their eyes, by brain filled in the spot with the color of

> thier skin which was surrounding the spot, and so it looked like

> they were missing an eye. Over the next hour th!

> e spot

> slowly grew larger and larger, growing outward in a ring

> pattern, but only ever appearing on half of my visual field, but

> in both eyes. Eventually as it grew larger the colors my brain

> was filling it in with began to look a bit odd, as it's one

> thing to fill in a little spot, but something else to fill in a

> large cresant shape, but eventually it expanded beyond my visual

> field and I couldn't see it anymore. Just writing about it is

> making me feel like it is happening again, but I can't confirm

> that I have anything now except for the one blind spot that is

> supposed to be there. You can't see the normal blind spot

> without closing one eye because your brain will simply fill it

> in with whatever you see in the other eye, but with the problem

> I had, the blind spot was in the same position in each eye's

> view (which indicates it was a problem somewhere in the brain

> and actually had nothing to do with the eyes) and so I could

> notice it even with both eyes open. I tried searching !

> for

> information on the internet, the closest thing I could find was

> talk about aura that some people see when they have migraines,

> oddly enough, but again I didn't end up with a headache later,

> whereas what I read on the internet said that such visual aura

> usually precede a headache by an hour or so.

>

> So, like I said, I don't know what my problem is. I have enough

> symptoms that I could have any number of things wrong with me,

> and I also lack enough symptoms that any number of those things

> could not actually be what is wrong with me. So with no money,

> and no nearby doctors that seem to have a clue that anything

> besides ordinary depression is the problem...

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[Guest guest]

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Thanks to Anne and for responding. I wish I had more

input, but oh well.

Looks like mercury poisoning to me. With +100 sypmtoms of

mercury poisoning, I think the main thing is to look at

the symptoms that DON'T go together.

The varied symptoms:

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vision problems:

Also, on two occasions I've had this sort of visual problem...

" " " and periodically you may find it difficult to focus your eyes and

to see clearly " " "

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personality instability:

All I know

is that I'm prone to excessive and inappropriate emotions as far

as being happy and sad goes...

[[[[[another comment by this individual is also telling is

this regard but was NOT posted]]]]

" " " You loose your temper easily and switch between different moods

for no particular reason. " " "

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sleep problems:

At one point in time, sometime last year, I decided to have a

look at why I sleep so much. This too seems to come in phases,

some weeks I'll sleep 13 hours a day, then others I'll sleep

only 6. Generally when sleeping 13 I'll feel like getting out

of bed, but simply be unable to, and when sleeping 6 I'll very

much want to go back to bed and get some more sleep, but be

unable to...

I go though phases of sleeping too

much and sleeping too little...

" " " You don't sleep well, you wake up stiff and never feel thoroughly

rested. As a whole you need more sleep than before, and you are

constantly tired. " " "

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trouble concentrating:

sometimes I can do things (such as

computer or electronics projects) that are so amazing I amaze

even myself while other times I feel as if I can hardly think at

all...

" " " You will find it difficult to concentrate on tasks which require

attention and thinking " " "

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heart problems:

I did also create a heart

monitor, and with it I could see that I seem to have an ordinary

EEG, except that my heartrate is rather irregular in that it

will beat regularly at 70 beats per minute, then suddenly pause

fo!

r a

period about one and a half times the normal period between

beats, and then continue like normal. I also noticed that my

heart rate ocassionally increases for seemingly no reason at

all. In paticular, I once awoke for the simple reason that it

felt as if my heart was about to beat itself out of my chest...

" " " Nervous heart, sometimes accompanied by a week pulse, sometimes

by a hard pulse " " "

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Every doctor I've ever been to has come to the conclusion that

it is plain vanilla depression, but that doesn't account for a

lot of my symptoms, and the medications for it aren't any help...

" " " Depression " " "

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http://curezone.com/dental/mercury_symptoms.html

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[Guest guest]

If anyone feels there is some lack of info from the individual

more is below:

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Migrains also cause depression and vision problems. So does

schizophrenia. Those are the only two I know of, there are

certainly many more things that share those symptoms. You have

to stop and ask what makes sense. Migrains don't make much

sense as I don't have intensly painful headaches. Schizophrenia

doesn't make much sense as I also lack many symptoms of

schizophrenia. Sure it could be one of those two and I simply

don't have all of the symptoms, or it could be mercury poisoning

or multiple sclerosis and I simply don't have all of the

symptoms for either of those. There's also the two major types

of depression that my symptoms somewhat fit. They even kind of

fit ADD.

Considering everything, however, the number of mild headaches

I've notice that I get ever since I realized that migraine

almost makes sense is even more making me consider that. I

can't help but wonder if I was getting these mild headaches

before and simply didn't think anything of them. The first one

I noticed was no less than an hour after the " maybe it's

migraine " idea popped into my head, which is extremely

coincidental if I wasn't having them all along.

In particular, I notice that my state of mind is often much the

same as it is when I have a headache. I have a difficlt time

thinking, I don't want to do anything, I become easily

irritable, and I mostly just want to lie down and do nothing. I

also tend not to like any sound, even listening to my favorite

music seems annoying. However, unlike migraine suffers, I have

no sensitivity to light at all, in fact as far as I'm concerned,

the more light the better, as much as full sunlight. Migraine

also typically has nasua, which I also don't experience at all.

Anyway, just look at the Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migraine

Wikipedia Quote:

Prodromal symptoms occur in 40% to 60% of migraineures. This

phase consists of altered mood, irritability, depression or

euphoria, fatigue, yawning, excessive sleepiness, craving for

certain food (e.g., chocolate), and other vegetative symptoms.

These symptoms usually precede the headache phase of the

migraine attack by several hours or days

Every one of those symptoms is something I experience for

periods of time every now and again. It's almost as if I

frequenty start to get a migrane but never actually go all the

way with it. The two times I had the visual symptoms might well

have been the aura described in the next section as the next

step right before the headache phase. In fact, when I had the

visual symptoms I looked on the internet to try to figure out

what they were, and migraine aura were the only plausibe

explenation I could find, though I didn't accept it at the time

as I wasn't having any headaches and so it didn't make any

sense.

> So it's not neurotransmitter imbalance as far as I can tell.

Perhaps not. The number of neurotransmitters that exist to be

unbalanced seems to be roughly equivilant to the number of major

psychiatric disorders, all of which have a specific set of

symptoms. The fact that I don't fit any of those sets of

symptoms probably indicates that it is something else. I also

believe I've tried some sort of prescription medication for them

all without any effect.

[Guest guest]

He should be taking some fish oil, not the cheap kind at walmart but

some good molecular distilled kind. Tell him even if it does not help

his mood its very good for his heart and brain and everything else.

Then just a good multi to cover the B-vitamins he is most likely

lacking. I still say he needs to balance his hormones and probably his

gut. Some pro-biotics and wild yam root with aminos would help. Also his

diet is very important, it must be low glycemic to help maintain normal

blood sugar. People with any type of mood disorders do really well on

this type of diet, no sugar, no starches, no tropical fruit, no corn

syrup which is in everything, obviosly no soda. If he does not want to

spend money on his health, perhaps he could at least clean up his diet

and see if that helps him.

stephenszpak wrote:

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> I got all responses from the forum and personal e-mail

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> What is below is more he/she sent to me. Prolific.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. Getting this out to him/her now.

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> He should be taking some fish oil, not the cheap kind...

[Guest guest]

Well its one of those things that can either add to the mix or all by

itself reak havoc in the body. I know I had metal poisoning but am now

sure how much of a part it played in my symptoms. There is usually a

genetic componet to mood disorders, finding out about his family would

give some clues as to whether he has always had mood problems or is it

being caused by something else. If a person does have a mood disorder

already and then you add metals, poor diet etc., you really have a very

unhappy, grumpy, miserable person.

stephenszpak wrote:

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> Haven't heard back from him/her yet on this. Mercury can alter

> a person's personality too, as you probably know.

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[Guest guest]

Reaching for a solution makes more sense than accepting information (that hasn't

worked) as fact. There IS a cure, it just won't come from a pharmaceutical. If

THEY don't have the answers, that means the answers are somewhere else! I say

REACH!

debbie Walter wrote:

I HAVE OBSERVED YAS EMAILS & I WONDER IF YOUR JUST REACHING? THE FACT IS

YOU'VE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH MS! THEIR IS NO CURE & NTHEY DON'T KNOW HOW & OR WHY

WE GOT IT. I HAVE FOUND OUT IN THE YWENTY SOMETGHING YEARS I'VE HAD IT IS TRY

NOT TO STRESS.

Depression (like fatigue) can have a zillion causes. I wrote

to him/her about various tests for mercury poisioning. Without

a decent test it is all just guessing on my and your part.

The late Dr. Lendon recommended a 4 day distilled water fast

and then adding one different food per day until the food the

person is allergic to is identified. An allergy can cause anything.

With the individual's limited funds there are only so many

things that can be done. If the person wants to get tested for

mercury I'll probably get back to the group regarding tests.

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