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In a message dated 00-11-14 13:03:28 EST, you write:

<< She drinks tons of water, so I don't worry too much. I've never seen

a kid drink so much water, at least the ones I've been around. We

have a store here that sells the 16oz bottles of spring water for a

buck and a few pennies for a 6 pack, therefore I keep a good stock of

them. She drinks 3-4 of them a day!!!

>>

Tonya, you do know that insatiable thirst for water is a diabetic indicator,

don't you?

Vicki

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Hi ,

She washed her hands and everything before we did the pricking. I'm

going to wait and check her again tomorrow. It would have been a few

days later, but I'm going to be sure. These strips are expensive :)

But, I do want to make sure. Wouldn't that just be great! I don't

even want to think about it! For her age (she'll be 6 on 12-13), she

eats reallly healthy. The thing is, she eats a lot of fruit, so I'm

thinking that could have raised her numbers so high. I also thought I

was doing hera favor by keeping juices stocked in the house rather

than sodas, koolaid, and tea for her, but even those are loaded too.

She drinks tons of water, so I don't worry too much. I've never seen

a kid drink so much water, at least the ones I've been around. We

have a store here that sells the 16oz bottles of spring water for a

buck and a few pennies for a 6 pack, therefore I keep a good stock of

them. She drinks 3-4 of them a day!!!

Tonya

> Tonya, this is definitely the upper range of normal. However, there

are a

> number of factors that you may look at... Were her fingers clean

when the

> test was done? Was there enough blood on the strip (sometimes meters

give

> false readings if not enough blood is applied).

>

> Try it again. If it's still high, you should take her to the doctor

and have

> her checked out. Type I is a possibility, however Type II is being

diagnosed

> in children more and more often. If she is already on the upper end

of the

> range, this could be the beginning of diabetes, and the sooner it

gets dealt

> with, the better it is for her!

>

>

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In a message dated 11/14/2000 10:03:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,

hiddentreasures@... writes:

<< I've never seen

a kid drink so much water, at least the ones I've been around. We

have a store here that sells the 16oz bottles of spring water for a

buck and a few pennies for a 6 pack, therefore I keep a good stock of

them. She drinks 3-4 of them a day!!! >>

Dang, bells and whistles are going off in my head here. To me this is not

" normal " for a 6 yr old to be that thirsty and drink that much water. I

would contact my pediatrician and get her tested.

Meniowl@...

type2,dx7/99, low-carbs

(last A1c 5.0) Normal range 4.8-6.0

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Tonya, this is worrisome. Please let us know the results as soon as you can.

Be sure she has a high-carb meal so that you get a " worst case scenario " of

how her body is reacting. You wrote:

<< She drinks tons of water, so I don't worry too much. I've never seen a

kid drink so much water, at least the ones I've been around. We have a

store here that sells the 16oz bottles of spring water for a buck and a few

pennies for a 6 pack, therefore I keep a good stock of them. She drinks 3-4

of them a day!!! >>

Does she get up at night to pee? Does/did she have enuresis (bed wetting)?

That's one of the criteria for suspecting type 1 in children. But as we are

seeing, lots of children can have type 2 as well. My sister was diagnosed in

8th grade - and that was ages ago, when there wasn't so much awareness of

the disease.

Susie

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Tonya asked:

<< Now you have me worried! When you say a high carb meal... should I do

this in the morning, afternoon, or night? >>

We tend to be the most insulin-resistant in the morning. And high-carb

breakfasts are easy to come by. Just serve her a typical " healthy American

breakfast " of whole-wheat toast, orange juice, sugary cereal topped by a big

ol' banana, skim milk, and then how about a giant bagel or sticky Danish? Be

sure it's all Fat-Free! (Just kidding, sort of - pointing out how our modern

fixation on avoiding fats blinds us to other dietary problems. But actually,

it could be a good idea to keep the fats down, because fats in a meal have a

dampening effect ... they tend to draw out the glucose spike, make it last

longer, but they knock the peak off. I say it changes our glucose reaction

from a tepee shape to more like a breadloaf.) You might want to poke her

twice ... Maybe at 1-1/2 hours and again at 2 hours after beginning the

meal?

Bed-wetting is an acknowledged tip-off for type 1 status on the ADA web

site, but that info is little-known by doctors. Many patients are still told

it's an emotional problem, etc. But it makes perfect sense, doesn't it? When

we don't have good control (as would be the case with an undiagnosed type 1

or type 2 eating our modern high-carb diet), we're drinking and peeing like

mad.

The minutes must be crawling past like hours for you right now. It's a good

time to be thankful. If it does turn out she is diagnosed diabetic, you can

be grateful about catching her diagnosis early, thanks to your diabetes

knowledge. And you have lots of online diabetic friends eager to help you

and your family with questions if she does meet the criteria for a

diagnosis. Be vigilant about determining whether she is type 1 or type 2.

We still have a tendency for doctors to assume that younger patients are 1's

and older patients and/or obese patients are all 2's. As , Bob ,

Bob Niederman and others have pointed out, we are not neatly divided into

two camps, but rather our status is spread all along the diabetes continuum,

from those who are essentially moving back and forth between diabetic and

non-diabetic status, to those who have a terrifically difficult time with

their glucose readings despite frequent testing and injecting and great care

taken regarding food selections.

Susie

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I have to agree. Excessive thirst and frequent urination are signs of

Diabetes.

Anne

meniowl@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 11/14/2000 10:03:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> hiddentreasures@... writes:

>

> << I've never seen

> a kid drink so much water, at least the ones I've been around. We

> have a store here that sells the 16oz bottles of spring water for a

> buck and a few pennies for a 6 pack, therefore I keep a good stock of

> them. She drinks 3-4 of them a day!!! >>

>

> Dang, bells and whistles are going off in my head here. To me this is not

> " normal " for a 6 yr old to be that thirsty and drink that much water. I

> would contact my pediatrician and get her tested.

>

> Meniowl@...

> type2,dx7/99, low-carbs

> (last A1c 5.0) Normal range 4.8-6.0

>

>

> Public website for Diabetes International:

> http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

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Sam Levy wrote:

<< I think my dad was an undiagnosed diabetic from the thirsts, rheumy eyes,

frequent urination. >>

I think about that too, Sam. I wonder just how many undiagnosed diabetics

there have been, who suffered health problems, and often died relatively

young. I'm a genealogist when I'm not pestering the listmates with my

frequent posts, and any time I see a pattern of early deaths or a pattern of

heart trouble in a family, I wonder ...

Susie

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