Re: dm diligence [was:Re: Hypo signals

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> oooooooooppppppppppppssssssssssss. Sorry about that! I just gave you a

> free trip to England! {:-D

>

> Sheila

Thanks so much Sheila! <BG> I really needed that holiday!

anne

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> anne, are you one of the horsey set? Is the road pretty bad back to

> civiliaation, or are you townies, Sam

I'm a townie Sam but do much prefer teh wide open spaces. Never was a horse

person. They don't like me much.

anne

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>>I also wrote down everything I ate today. My total carb count for today

is 67. I feel pretty good about that! Now, I need to decide on a

bedtime snack. I am beginning to feel as if all I do, is read my email,

plan meals, prepare meals, write down what I eat, clean up from the

meal. Can I expect to have it be less time consuming as I acquire more

experience doing it????>>

****Sheila, that's great - both the low carbs and the writing it all down.

The diary will show you patterns, if you're diligent about it. And yes, it

seems like it's taken over in the beginning, but because it's a matter of

saving your life, it probably should for now. As time goes on and you learn

more and more about how your body reacts to foods, exercise, daily life in

general, it will start to become automatic, and will take less of your day.

" If we are thorough in this phase of our development, we will know a new

happiness and a new peace... " I believe the 12 steps of recovery apply to

more than addicts and alcoholics :-)

Sure sounds like you're on the right track, girl!

Barb

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Re: Re: Hypo signals (was : Daughter's HbA1c

> Hi, Carol. Thanks for your info about the specialist. I will

> definitely ask my dr.to refer me to one, at my next appointment.

>

> BTW, my new, " At Last " , bg tester arrived about an hour ago. I was just

> sitting down for dinner. Now, I need to read the directions.

>

> I also wrote down everything I ate today. My total carb count for today

> is 67. I feel pretty good about that! Now, I need to decide on a

> bedtime snack. I am beginning to feel as if all I do, is read my email,

> plan meals, prepare meals, write down what I eat, clean up from the

> meal. Can I expect to have it be less time consuming as I acquire more

> experience doing it????

>

> Sheila {:-D

>

>

>

> Public website for Diabetes International:

> http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

>

>

>

>

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Barb, the trouble with carb or food additiction is we're not able to

abstain from it in normal life. , I know the bible mentions

fasting, don't. Just eat evenly through the day, healthy things, and no,

vegetables may be eaten freely, and halves of most fruits are just fine.

Sam

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>Barb, the trouble with carb or food additiction is we're not able to

>abstain from it in normal life.

****That's very true, Sam. Overeaters Anonymous uses a specific, agreed

upon food plan, certain amounts of calories, no sugar, whatever. The

principles of a 12 step program are more what I was quoting. As a

recovering alcoholic (as long as we're all airing our laundry here :-) and a

compulsive overeater (yup, I do eat the whole thing!), I find these

principles very useful. I also find that I have to make rules for myself,

such as nothing in the house that isn't in my woe. A huge advantage of

living alone (and no, I don't want to start that discussion!).

Happy Sunday - it's lovely here for the first time in days.

Barb

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In a message dated 10/29/2000 5:44:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mdr1000@... writes:

<< Newbie, here. Is there ~anything~ a recently diagnosed MD2 can eat with

abandon? I've been " filling " up on sugar free Jell-O and bullion cubes for

snacks. Like Jell-O but getting tired of it. Don't like bullion, but don't

want Jell-O 24/7. Thanks, Mike

>>

Nothing with abandon Mike as it all counts. I would say though to have

something more filling like a hard boiled egg with some mayonnaise. Some fat

seems to give satiety. The sweetness of SF Jell-O makes ME crave more and

more and does not fill me up. That is why I have it with my dinner, not

after it, but during the meal.

You could also try having some chicken, or a piece of cheese.

Meniowl@...

type2,dx7/99,low-carbs & water walking

(last A1c 5.3) Normal range 4.8-6.0

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When you go shopping read the nutritional information on the labels. I eat

whatever, but switched from regular soda to sugar free. Some of the low

carbers on this list will swear that carbs are to be limited to a low

amount. I can eat veggie pizza and my bgs are ok, but if I have meats on

it, my BG is still high the following morning. Try grilled cheese, grilled

ham and cheese, whatever and test two hours after eating, then three hours,

etc. and see what YOUR BG does. Each person is different. Some of us can

eat carbs and not have problems.

RE: dm diligence [was:Re: Hypo signals

>>>> veggies are better than candy for etc. but eaten freely?

>

>

>Newbie, here. Is there ~anything~ a recently diagnosed MD2 can eat with

>abandon? I've been " filling " up on sugar free Jell-O and bullion cubes for

>snacks. Like Jell-O but getting tired of it. Don't like bullion, but don't

>want Jell-O 24/7. Thanks, Mike

>

>

>

>Public website for Diabetes International:

>http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

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, I think the trick is to have a meter and learn from it. No need

to go overboard. some people think some veggies are high in

carbohydrates, I don't think it likely you will overindulge in cooked

carrots, rutabagas or turnips. Veggies eaten raw are almost without food

value, you don't break the cells open to release the nutrients.

They can be filling, and furnish fiber you are not going to get from

jello and bouillion. I have a salad for lunch, a fruit midmorning like

an orange or a pear. I take no meds, have good sugars.

It's the starches that pile on the carbohydrates that give you sugars,

bread, pasta, pizza, potato rice breakfast cereals, corn. I limit them

to one moderate serving with dinner. Find out how they affect you. Keep

in touch, that's why we bother, sam

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Nothing with abandon Mike as it all counts. I would say though to have

something more filling like a hard boiled egg with some mayonnaise. Some fat

seems to give satiety. The sweetness of SF Jell-O makes ME crave more and

more and does not fill me up. That is why I have it with my dinner, not

after it, but during the meal.

You could also try having some chicken, or a piece of cheese.

Ok, color me confused. How many calories in the Jell-O vs the cheese,

chicken, hard boiled egg, etc.? Won't those also raise fat content toward

cholesterol? Thanks, Mike

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In a message dated 00-10-30 00:45:00 EST, you write:

<< Vicki, not on low-sodium, so shall try the rinds. High in calories??? Mike

>>

Mike, the best thing to do is learn to read labels whenever you buy anything.

By law, it's all there on the package. I doubt the pork rinds have many

calories, they're mostly crunch and air (and sodium of course).. Offhand I

don't remember the calories in them, calories aren't one of my problems (I'm

a thin type 1). Vicki

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>What if you were new at this and needed to exercise, lose weight and lower

>bg? Would you still not value the calories? Thanks, Mike

Mike, some of us have had great success controlling our bg's, losing weight,

and lowering our cholesterol and blood pressure by lowering our carbohydrate

intake. Whereas we don't eat tons of fat, we don't count calories, just

carbs. Please get Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. It is full of great

information on diabetes and health control. Carbohydrates really spike my

bg's, more insulin required, thus more circulating insulin, thus weight gain

and cravings. It's a vicious cycle for me, and I'm much better off not

eating the carbs. I'm not hungry, feel better, no cravings, etc.

Barb

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The sugar-free fudgsicles I've seen have about 17 grams of carbs. Some

sugar-free popsicles (Good Humor and others) have more like 7 grams.

Susie

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Sheila, you're in New South Wales. You may have different labeling down

there. But in the U.S., I look for the " Nutrasweet " logo on packages, to

assure myself they are truly sugar-free ... not just " no sugar added. "

(Splenda is still in the process of catching on here.)

Susie

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> I bought

> some sugar free, fudgescicles, a few months ago. I started to eat one

> the other day, and was shocked at how high the carb count was, in mine.

> I put it in the garbage! {:-D

SF popsicles, including fudgsicles and other frozen treats, seem to have

fallen out of favour in this area. They can't be found! Anywhere! What a

disappointing summer it was here - but I " snuck " a few regular popsicles

though! I know, I know, I'm only fooling myself

[Guest guest]

Look at those fudgesicles again. If they're the popsicle brand, they're

no-sugar-added. They have milk in them, I believe. They have natural sugars in

them. The sugarfree popsicles have practically nothing in them, but fudgesicles

are another matter.

Re: dm diligence [was:Re: Hypo signals

> I bought

> some sugar free, fudgescicles, a few months ago. I started to eat one

> the other day, and was shocked at how high the carb count was, in mine.

> I put it in the garbage! {:-D

SF popsicles, including fudgsicles and other frozen treats, seem to have

fallen out of favour in this area. They can't be found! Anywhere! What a

disappointing summer it was here - but I " snuck " a few regular popsicles

though! I know, I know, I'm only fooling myself

Public website for Diabetes International:

http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

[Guest guest]

> Look at those fudgesicles again. If they're the popsicle brand, they're

> no-sugar-added. They have milk in them, I believe. They have natural

> sugars in them. The sugarfree popsicles have practically nothing in

> them, but fudgesicles are another matter.

>

Thanks, Teri. Yep, they are the Popscicle brand. What brand are the

ones you are eating? I go grocery shopping tomorrow, and will look for

them.

Thanks.

Sheila {:-D

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Thanks, Susie. I will look for them, tomorrow.

Sheila {:-D

ottercritter@... wrote:

> The sugar-free fudgsicles I've seen have about 17 grams of carbs. Some

>

> sugar-free popsicles (Good Humor and others) have more like 7 grams.

>

> Susie

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WHEN I have a fudgesicle, it's their brand, but I don't have them very often. I

eat LOTS of the sugarfree Popsicles though. They're way lower.

Re: dm diligence [was:Re: Hypo signals

> Look at those fudgesicles again. If they're the popsicle brand, they're

> no-sugar-added. They have milk in them, I believe. They have natural

> sugars in them. The sugarfree popsicles have practically nothing in

> them, but fudgesicles are another matter.

>

Thanks, Teri. Yep, they are the Popscicle brand. What brand are the

ones you are eating? I go grocery shopping tomorrow, and will look for

them.

Thanks.

Sheila {:-D

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Sheila wrote:

<< As for me, I live in a small town, about 15 miles NE of the California

state capitol, Sacramento. {:-D >>

It's funny how the mind plays tricks. I was thinking, " Sheila, " and realize

now I was associating it with the Aussie term for gal.

Susie

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Hmm seems like you could make your own with real cream or half and half and

cocoa and sweetner.

sharon

Re: dm diligence [was:Re: Hypo signals

> Look at those fudgesicles again. If they're the popsicle brand, they're

> no-sugar-added. They have milk in them, I believe. They have natural

> sugars in them. The sugarfree popsicles have practically nothing in

> them, but fudgesicles are another matter.

>

Thanks, Teri. Yep, they are the Popscicle brand. What brand are the

ones you are eating? I go grocery shopping tomorrow, and will look for

them.

Thanks.

Sheila {:-D

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I've been pleasantly surprised at the availability locally. It usually takes

forever for products to show up, but it's on the shelves at Kroger, Big Bear,

and Wal-Mart.

Re: dm diligence [was:Re: Hypo signals

Splenda is available at http://www.qvc.com and http://www.splenda.com

There is going to be a Splenda cookbook by Joanna Lund available in January.

Splenda is used in Diet RC, and other products.

>(Splenda is still in the process of catching on here.)

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[Guest guest]

And Splenda showed up in the Kash N' Karry and Publix stores here in Florida

about a month ago.

Re: dm diligence [was:Re: Hypo signals

I've been pleasantly surprised at the availability locally. It usually takes

forever for products to show up, but it's on the shelves at Kroger, Big

Bear, and Wal-Mart.

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MAryanne from New South Wales wrote:

<< My dietitian recommends 30minutes of exercise every day, some

here would say that's not enough, but I'm SO unfit, 30 minutes is PLENTY for

me <G>. >>

I agree absolutely, anne (Sheila ... hahahaha). Many of us are dealing

with associated health issues ... we could be very out-of-condition, have

undiagnosed heart conditions, etc. In addition to the risks associated with

diving into a heavy-duty workout from a long period of inactivity, we can

also jeopardize our own intent to exercise regularly, long-term, by injuring

or exhausting ourselves in the initial weeks. We should make sure our hearts

are okay for vigorous exercise, and build up gradually to an acceptable level

of effort.

But exercise really does help us ... and I'm a big believer in weight lifting

for diabetics. I came to picture our bodies as the " basic stuff " of bones and

muscles and necessary organs, with the rest of it just " dead stuff " we are

dragging around - which burdens our hearts. Body fat is like an unwelcome

blanket on our " real bodies. " Turn that inert stuff into metabolically-active

muscles and you have a food-burning machine.

Susie