Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hi, Biochemical interaction between humans can be the cause of such problems. Info about predicting and preventing: www.haptens.republika.pl Jerzy Grzeszczuk jerzygrzeszczuk@... > > Hi all, > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check for > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hi Kathy: That is great; but what does the EPA stand for aft. Calcium? > > If you do have ms, it is nothing to be that frightened of if caught in early stages. Calcium EAP which Dr. Atkins used in his practice and Hans Neiper basically invented with Dr. Kohler is a cell mineral therapy. It is good for all types of things and is alternative. It works really well for optic neuritis along with diet, exercise and certain lifestyle changes. Info can be obtained from . The Brewer library. I have been doing the EAP for 7 years now and have had ms for at least 12. I am in remission and have no evidence of ms except for occasional transient symptoms of altered sensation in my feet. best, Kathy > Optic Neuritis. > > > Hi all, > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check for > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 hi brother 12 yrs ago started with optic neuritis he lost vision same way only to have it gradually return. was not diag at time w/ms but over a yr later. > >Reply-To: mscured >To: mscured >Subject: Optic Neuritis. >Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 05:52:52 -0000 > >Hi all, > >I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told >by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 It is calcium EAP or AEP. The Germans do not differentiate. It is a lipid which means phosphytlyetholamine. It is one of the many lipids in the brain such as phosphytylcholine, P. serine, sphingomyelin and the other 7% of the brain are other various lipids. It is a cell membrane protector which helps ms. It does not cure ms but gives the bodies own innate healing powers a chance to kick in. I equate it to being out in the rain with a raincoat on. It has been a miracle for me. Best, Kathy Optic Neuritis. > > > Hi all, > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check for > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hi I'm Shay and I had a battle with optic neuritis in my left eye in 2004 and yes, I was diagnosed with MS. My vision came back, but my left eye appear lazy or sluggish. I hope all is fine, if it is MS, everything will still be fine. Feel free to ask any questions. cfarris412 wrote: Hi all, I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check for MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. Thanks --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hi Yes, O.N. was my Brother's first symptom. here is some info I have collecte don O.n. and the eyes that may help. I am not recommending any of it and the comments are not my words. i am merely passing on some info-there maybe some 'traditional' drugs listed in the info (as I say, just passing info on from people). Please check everything first. Hope this helps: OPTIC NEURITIS Steroids-My Brother had 1 Gram (100ml Solution/Bag) per day over 3 days of METHYLPREDNISONE They do sometimes offer a follow-up dosage of Oral Steroids for 10-14 Days IVIG-Immunoglobin and Vit B-12 and Folate for the eyes If problem is Nystagmus Diplopia-Gabapentin (Neurontin) is thought to help. However, some say that Neurontin can actually cause Nystagmus Diplopia. So check with Docs/Neuro first. Blueberries are very good for the eyes Anything that lowers levels of Interleukin 12 and raises levels of Interleukin 10 are good generally for MS. This is Omegas 3 and 6-Fish Oil, Flax Seed Oil, Evening Primrose Oil, Vitamin E etc in high Doses Also Vitamin D Calcium Orotate Vitamin A is known to help the eyes Devils' Claw-An anti-inflammatory/Antioxidant Also Bromelain Lutein is supposed to be very good for the eyes. Also Zeaxanthin and Vitamin C. Beta-Carotene, Zinc, Selenium and Copper Vitamin B-1 and B-12 SIMVASTATIN-currently on trial A cooled-down, used Tea Bag? Certain nutrients such as lutein, zeaxanthin, vinpocetine, l-lysine, a number of vitamins & enzymes, and fish oil may help Optic Nerve Atrophy and preserve vision. Some research indicates that daily use of Microcurrent Stimulation may help preserve vision as well. Imuran?: I'll agree with that. Unfortunately, things happen really fast when it comes to MS. I was told recently that I probably will not be offered steroids again if/when I have another exacerbation (any exacerbation); they believe I have had too many. Because of this my Neurologist, who seems to be up on a lot of data, I have been taking Imuran (azathioprine) for over a year. Luckily, I have only had attacks of pain no new lesions on/around the optic nerve. I have been told the eye pain may never go away. But, on the bright side the Imuran has helped so much that my optic nerves have healed, my vision has gotten much better and continues to improve. The doctors are tracking this progress and have told me that many Neuro's and Optho's are tracking the healing of optic nerves in those that have had severe attacks (meaning the attack did damage to the nerve) of people who have been put on Imuran in addition to whatever other disease modifying agent they are taking. I've had more attacks than I care to count, some of the attacks were not disclosed to myself or my parents because of my age. I was 12 years old when I had my first optic neuritis attack, though (luckily) it is in my medical record the cause of my severe eye pain was never disclosed. Considering I have had ON attacks since puberty and my eyes are healing I can only thank my dr's and the advances in MS medicine. I took Pygnogenol in a heavy dose for about 6 months and improved my eye sight back to my original and put my contacts back in ............ I was asked a question about bilberry and forgot to respond. It is impossible to overdose on it so 3x3 is a good idea. For maintenance 1x3. In the case of optic neuritis the calcium orotate is very valuable because it helps seal the blood brain barrier. Hans Neiper always prescribed it for people who had optic neuritis and it also helps with any kind of arthritic inflammatory condition. It is not to be taken in place or your regular calcium. It aids in the transport of cell minerals and deposits itself outside the cell membrane to protect you against auto-immune attack. It is taken in addition to your regular calcium. Anyone who is interested in the calcium EAP should contact the Brewer Science Library. It is not only good for ms but also for gastritis, asthma, diabetes, and many other conditions. It basically protects you against some of the oxidative stress we encounter. in our daily lives which is so detrimental for people with an auto-immune dis-ease. Info for impaired vision First and foremost, I always advise people to take advantage of their residual vision. A lot can be done to help you see certain things using the right light and sometimes reverse screens on your computer, magnifying software with speech -- that sort of thing. In fact, if you got used to using a magnifying program with speech, you would be better prepared as your vision does decrease -- if it does. a visual acuity 20/400 in each eye with corrective lenses is considered legally blind. there's a lot of vision between that and nothing at all. For me, it's all white -- like living in a heavy fog. Sometimes I think I can almost see movement -- especially if there's a lot of light. Conversely, I'm photophobic so too much light hurts and gives me a headache. I suppose its subjective whether my vision loss was fast or slow. In the space of about 18 months my visual fields had reduced to what they are now -- or very close to it. I'm told that my optical nerves swelled to the point that blood flow to my optic disks was impeded or stopped -- either way, I would have white-outs and then I'd regain some vision but it would be worse each time. It's different for everyone, I'm told. I had some eye pain and that sort of thing. I still do now and then. One eye gets more light than the other. The symptoms that made working hard for me were the dizziness and ataxia, somewhat, but more so I just lost strength and energy so quickly. I had to be in a wheelchair all day because I just couldn't stand or walk after a short time. Even now, unless I rest in between a lot, I can't walk more than 50 or so yards on a good day. Being able to be productive without having to be up and moving all the time really slowed my symptoms down. I still have bad days, sure. Mostly, though, the progression of my MS really has slowed down. Earning a living, being productive, using my time in a valuable way, those are important to me and important to living longer with MS, in my opinion-- not to mention paying the bills. I certainly understand your quest to find a way to do that. Ask me anything and I'll help all I can. - Omega-3 fats, one of the most critical nutritional substances for your body, can prevent this common eye problem. You can reduce your chances of having dry eyes and blindness by making certain you receive enough. Essential Fatty Acids: Fat You Can Use By White; reviewed by Dr. Slonim Many people find it difficult to believe that fat can be essential to your health, but it's true. Fatty acids are the " building blocks " of fat and some of them are called " essential " because your body needs them, yet cannot make them; you must eat them. Essential fatty acids (EFAs) make up polyunsaturated fats. The two types are omega-3 fatty acids and omega-6. The main omega-3 is alpha-linolenic acid (LNA). Its derivatives include: eicosapentaeonic acid (EPA), docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) and a few others. The main omega-6 is linoleic acid (LA). Like LNA, it also has derivatives, but they are not relevant to the topic of vision. How Fatty Acids Affect the Eyes EFAs are connected with visual development in infants. Deficiencies in adults (particularly omega-3) can lead to impaired vision, and studies suggest that prolonged deficiencies might lead to retinal/macular damage. A study published in the August 2001 issue of Archives of Ophthalmology found that omega-6 fatty acids were associated with an increased risk of advanced macular degeneration, but that omega-3 fatty acids protected against it (as long as LA intake was low). Meanwhile, a 2003 study found omega-3 to decrease your risk of developing dry eye syndrome, and other studies have found that LA and gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) improve dry eye symptoms. The body converts both types of EFAs into prostaglandins, whose functions include helping the eye's aqueous humor to drain and regulating intraocular pressure. You're Eating Too Much Omega-6 Fatty Acid How much fatty acid do you need? There is no RDA yet, but sources agree that Americans do not get nearly enough omega-3, and way too much omega-6. Doctors involved in the Workshop on the Essentiality of and Recommended Dietary Intakes for Omega-6 and Omega-3 Fatty Acids* suggest " adequate intakes " of each: • omega-3: 0.65 g (grams) of EPA and DHA combined (with neither falling below 0.22 g) • omega-6: 4.44 g Many sources look at a person's ratio of omega-6 fatty acids to omega-3. Most people in Western cultures fall between 20:1 and 30:1; however, the optimal ratio would be somewhere between 1:1 and 4:1.** For most Americans, this means greatly reducing the omega-6 fatty acids they consume, and probably increasing the number of omega-3 fatty acids Some sites to look up more information. http://www.allaboutvision.com/nutrition/fatty_acid_1.htm these site have sponsors. http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/dryeye.htm Nano-scaffolds could help rebuild sight * 18 March 2006 * http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg18925435.900.html;jsessionid=ANELLO\ \ PKHKMJ * Marks ANIMALS blinded following damage to their optic nerve have had their vision partially restored with the help of an implanted nanoscale scaffold that has encouraged nerve tissue to regrow. The technique, likened by its inventors to the way a garden trellis encourages the growth of ivy, holds out the hope that people with diseased or injured optic nerves might one day recover their sight. The optic nerve, which connects the eye to the brain, can be severed by traumatic injuries such as those suffered in car crashes. It can also be damaged by glaucoma, when excessive pressure in the eyeball causes tissue at the back of the eye to collapse, pulling nerve fibres apart and so causing progressive loss of vision. Repairing the optic nerve requires the long, spidery branches of nerve cells, called axons, to grow again and reconnect. Achieving this is a " formidable barrier " , says Rutledge Ellis-Behnke, a biomedical engineer at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Axons can be encouraged to lengthen by exposing them to growth factors, but they rarely extend far enough to bridge the gaps typical of most optic nerve injuries, he says. To overcome this, Ellis-Behnke and colleagues from Hong Kong University and the Institute for Neuroscience in Xi'an, China, created a nerve-bridging scaffold, made up of nanoparticle fibres. They made these fibres the same size as the sugar and protein complexes on the surface of the torn axon, in the hope that this would encourage cell growth and migration (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0600559103). To make their scaffold, the team turned to a discovery from the early 1990s by Shuguang Zhang at MIT. He found that certain peptide sequences can be made to self-assemble into mesh-like sheets of nanofibres by immersing them in salt solutions at similar concentrations to those found in the body. To test whether this would help nerves to regenerate, the team took hamsters whose optic nerves had been deliberately severed and injected a peptide mixture into each animal's brain close to the injury site. After six weeks, the animals had recovered some of their vision. " They could see well enough to find their food, to function well, " says MIT team member Gerald Schneider. Schneider estimates that 30,000 axons had reconnected, compared with only around 30 in previous experiments using other approaches such as nerve growth factors. The scaffold appears to eventually break down harmlessly. Tissue engineer Shakesheff at the University of Nottingham, UK, says the work is exciting, but urges caution. The surgical cut made in the hamster's nerve is not representative of " more messy " injury or disease in people, he warns, and other central nervous system work has shown that species differences mean nerve regeneration in a rodent might not translate into humans. Shakesheff also notes that it remains unknown how the scaffold regenerates tissue, and that it might ultimately be possible to use stem cells to further boost the regenerative response. The MIT team now plans to extend the work in the hope of developing therapies for spinal cord injuries. From issue 2543 of New Scientist magazine, 18 March 2006, page 30 What vaccine design can take from bones Another type of nanotechnology is exploiting the way the body removes bone fragments to deliver waterproof, timed-release payloads of vaccines that would break down if not kept dry prior to release. The vaccine, enclosed in mineral spheres, could be injected as a follow-up booster dose at the same time as the initial dose. The spheres, developed by Cambridge Biostability (CBL) in the UK, are made of calcium phosphate, the main mineral constituent of bone. Cells called osteoclasts mistake them for stray pieces of bone and dissolve them, causing them to release their contents over a period of months. To build the spheres, a mixture of vaccine and calcium phosphate crystals within an aqueous solution is sprayed out of a nozzle into a stream of gas at around 170 °C. The nanocrystals are surrounded by a cloud of water molecules, which evaporate in the gas. As the water molecules are removed, the nanocrystals draw closer together until they partially fuse to form solid glassy spheres 5 micrometres in diameter, with the vaccine embedded inside. The heat of the gas is absorbed by evaporative cooling before it destroys the vaccine, says Bruce Roser of CBL. The microspheres protect the vaccine from water in the body, allowing them to be used even with delicate payloads such as meningitis vaccine, which is damaged by prolonged contact with water. I Went on a 10 day juice fast with only organics. Now I have no more tremors in my legs and my fatigue is also better. I am by no means cured or even close, but I feel much better. My eyesight is also excellent. That is what I noticed 1st. This is truly the only card we have to play. Dr. and drugs don't help. Supplements and vitamins are not much more than rocks in our stomachs or they are filled with preservatives. Save your $. Buy food, good food! Vegie and Fruits. Only mother nature knows the answer. Sick, fat america does not. but she sure can spend money. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1774752,00.html Discovered by chance: protein that repairs optic nerve Ian Sample, science correspondent Monday May 15, 2006 The Guardian Neuroscientists have succeeded in repairing damage to optic nerves using a newly identified protein that encourages injured nerve fibres to regenerate. The chance discovery will boost hopes of a future treatment to reverse blindness caused by injuries to the optic nerve from accidents, tumours or common eye conditions such as glaucoma. The researchers hope it will also help the development of therapies for other debilitating conditions, such as stroke and spinal cord injury. The optic nerve is part of the central nervous system and, unlike nerves in the peripheral nervous system - such as those in our fingers and feet - shows almost no ability to recover from injury. Scientists believe the central nervous system has evolved to prevent severed nerves repairing themselves, as a harsh defence against potentially disastrous rewiring that could scramble important signals passing to and from the brain. Neuroscientists Yuqin Yin and Larry Benowitz at Children's Hospital, Boston, and Harvard medical school discovered the protein by chance when they noticed that injuries to the eye lens caused a chemical knock-on effect in which inflammatory cells began churning out molecules to repair the damage. To see if they might also help heal damaged nerves, they collected the inflammatory cells, grew them in petri dishes and isolated the proteins they secreted. In lab tests, Dr Benowitz discovered that treatment with the protein, called oncomodulin, nearly doubled the growth of optic nerve fibres by latching on to them and switching on a suite of growth genes. In further tests, the researchers treated rats with optic nerve damage and found that tiny capsules containing oncomodulin and another drug increased nerve regeneration by five to seven times. " Out of the blue, we found a molecule that causes more nerve regeneration than anything else ever studied, " said Dr Benowitz, whose study was published in the journal Nature Neuroscience yesterday. He stressed that nerve repair achieved in the rats was only partial and a treatment for humans still had significant hurdles to clear. " We could obtain pretty dramatic regeneration. With this said, however, there is another problem looming, and that is getting the regenerating axons to form connections with the proper target cells in a way that preserves the proper mapping of the visual space on to the brain. " > > Hi all, > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check for > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Thank you Kathy; I am a great fan of Dr. Atkins: I used to listen to him on the Radio; terrible about his demise. Wonderful you are able to keep Symptons in remission...I wish you continued success. So you take the Calcium EAP by a tablet? Or is it I.V.? Acetyl-Choline is awesome too. Calcium is necessary for Nerve transmission. Oh so this is Calcium with a special fat-soluable ETA(Essential Fatty Acid)? Vitamin D is another Calcium fat-soluable Calcium-ehancer;in Fish Oil. Trivia: " Our bones are comprised of 90% Calcium; so it can only help. Thankss...Anne in USA. > > > > If you do have ms, it is nothing to be that frightened of if caught > in early stages. Calcium EAP which Dr. Atkins used in his practice > and Hans Neiper basically invented with Dr. Kohler is a cell mineral > therapy. It is good for all types of things and is alternative. It > works really well for optic neuritis along with diet, exercise and > certain lifestyle changes. Info can be obtained from . > The Brewer library. I have been doing the EAP for 7 years now > and have had ms for at least 12. I am in remission and have no > evidence of ms except for occasional transient symptoms of altered > sensation in my feet. best, Kathy > > Optic Neuritis. > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was > told > > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye > doc > > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check > for > > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 How do you get this? --- Kathy Lintzenich wrote: > It is calcium EAP or AEP. The Germans do not differentiate. It is a lipid which means > phosphytlyetholamine. It is one of the many lipids in the brain such as phosphytylcholine, P. > serine, sphingomyelin and the other 7% of the brain are other various lipids. It is a cell > membrane protector which helps ms. It does not cure ms but gives the bodies own innate healing > powers a chance to kick in. I equate it to being out in the rain with a raincoat on. It has been > a miracle for me. Best, Kathy > Optic Neuritis. > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was > told > > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye > doc > > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check > for > > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 I was diagnosed with MS after going to the doctor during my battle with optic neuritis in my right eye that without treatment or even going to the doctor for a week, it started in my left eye as well. I have permanent damage, especially in my right eye because i had 3 or 4 attacks of it. I havn't had any other attacks with it since started my treatements. It gets to the point to where I feel like I am going to go blind for a day or so (the spots you see and the headaches, but not to the point you can't see at all...you guys who've experienced this know what im talking about) but don't go completely blind and don't have such bad headaches as you get, or at least I got! I have always had the lazy eye, i have had 2 surgerys, so I don'tknow if it made it worse or not. It should be okay if you keep with your treatments, sorry this was so long...I had a lot to say I guess hehe ~e > > Hi I'm Shay and I had a battle with optic neuritis in my left eye in > 2004 and yes, I was diagnosed with MS. My vision came back, but my left eye > appear lazy or sluggish. I hope all is fine, if it is MS, everything will > still be fine. Feel free to ask any questions. > > cfarris412 <cfarris412@... <cfarris412%40yahoo.com>> wrote: Hi all, > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check for > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > Thanks > > > --------------------------------- > See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>. Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 The Brewer Science Library at or drbrewer@... will give you a list of doctors using this protocol. If you have further questions after you get the basic packet of info, Don't hesitate to call me. Best, Kathy Optic Neuritis. > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was > told > > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye > doc > > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check > for > > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 It is IV which is a bit of a hassle but itgives you back so much. There are no side effects. It actually helps many other conditions in the body as well. When you protect the cell membrane, you are slowing down the whole oxidative stress process which is crucial to stopping chronic degenerative conditions. Best, Kathy Optic Neuritis. > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was > told > > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye > doc > > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check > for > > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 " I would urge those interested to contact drbrewer@...to get the basic packet of info; Calcium is the most abundant mineral in our body; so begining by strengthing the intregrety of the bones is good. " > > > > > > If you do have ms, it is nothing to be that frightened of if caught > > in early stages. Calcium EAP which Dr. Atkins used in his practice > > and Hans Neiper basically invented with Dr. Kohler is a cell mineral > > therapy. It is good for all types of things and is alternative. It > > works really well for optic neuritis along with diet, exercise and > > certain lifestyle changes. Info can be obtained from 608-647- 6513. > > The Brewer library. I have been doing the EAP for 7 years now > > and have had ms for at least 12. I am in remission and have no > > evidence of ms except for occasional transient symptoms of altered > > sensation in my feet. best, Kathy > > > Optic Neuritis. > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was > > told > > > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye > > doc > > > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > > > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check > > for > > > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > > > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > > > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Thanks for sharing; What exactly are your " treatments consisting of? This is only to help other people; to be honest; I got interested in helping people with MS because of the high incidence of Optic- Neuritis. I do not have a cure for MS; as far as I know: but I do know some things about " Eye Health and Improving Eye-Sight " . Anne/USA. I'll just post messages with my protocols occassionaly as have dialup. Hi all, > > > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and was told > > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro eye doc > > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. THey > > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to check for > > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. I the > > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and I am > > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of MS. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>. Check it out. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Oh I am familiar with PhosphytlCholine: I listened to Dr. Carlton Fredericks Ph.D in Nutrition on the Radio for a good 10 years daily. Aricept the presrciption drug for Alzheimers is a Choline Reuptake Inhibitor; much like the SRRI's but for Choline; very effective. As for Dr. Atkins; from the perhaps 100 Radio Shows I listened to of Dr. Atkins in the years before he met his demise; I found out that Dr. Atkins was the Pioneer in using Laetrile also called Vitamin B17. When the FDA said no; Dr. Atkins finally got Laetrille " legal " . Anne.- -- In mscured , " Kathy Lintzenich " wrote: > > This goes directly into the cell membrane. It is not your ordinary calcium. It is a synthetic version of lecithin basically or phosphytlcholine. There are several hundred pages to read before one really begins to understand this benign yet invaluable substance in the treatment of ms. The library is where you order the packet. Kind regards, Kathy > Optic Neuritis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I lost some vision in my left eye a couple of weeks ago and > was > > > told > > > > by my eye doc that I may have optic neuritis. I went to neuro > eye > > > doc > > > > and took all the test and photos of both eyes, optic nerves. > THey > > > > looked healthy, but am going in for MRI this Wednesday to > check > > > for > > > > MS. To say the least I am frightened of what they will find. > I the > > > > same eye problem last year in the same eye but recovered and > I am > > > > getting sight back now. Anyone have this problem in onset of > MS. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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