Re: Important to track antibodies

January 7, 2009

I have high mercury and not sure how to get rid of it. I tried the chelation and got way way sick. Since I have adrenal and low sodium potassium and more, it really thrw me off.

Subject: Important to track antibodiesTo: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:42 AM

Just though I'd add my experience with antibodies.Several years ago I had mercury exposure and took DMSA for a few daysto clear it.Stopped DMSA because of kidney pain.Had antibody testright before the DMSA and it was negative.Had antibody test rightafter DMSA and the numbers were off the charts.......in the thousands.I never had antibodies tested again till recently and they arenegative.Mercury is know to cause autoimmune disease however it mayjust cause antibodies in some people for a period of time.My suggestion would be to check occasionally to see if you have trueautoimmune or if mercury is causing the antibodies.How long ago was the mercury exposure and how were you exposed?Chantal> I went to an M.D. yesterday for the first time in 6 years. Surprise--> she is sharp as can be! She already knew about RT3, ordered good tests> for me (FT4, FT3, RT3)

and decided to test for other autoimmune> problems since I have Hashi's and mercury exposure.> > Here's my question: She said it's not that vital to track the Hashi's> antibodies; what's important to know is that I have them. Would you> agree with this, Val?> > Thanks, >------------------------------------

January 7, 2009

Hi Leisa-

How did you do chelation? Was it EDTA IV?

If so – that could be the problem. EDTA is known to NOT chelate mercury,

but what it does is combine with it to make it MUCH more toxic. EDTA should never

be used by a mercury toxic person.

With regard to chelation and mercury toxicity,

ignorance is rampant. Urine challenge tests with a single high dose of a

chelator (such as DMPS) can cause severe reactions and sometimes permanent

damage. Also, using things like cilantro or chlorella can cause severe problems

in some people. These reactions are all because the substances move mercury

around in the body, causing more damage. If chelators are taken in small doses

and frequently (according to their half life in the body so as to keep the

chelator level relatively constant over a period of time), more of the mercury

can be excreted. If they’re not taken frequently enough, mercury is

re-distributed in the body causing further damage after each dose. Mercury

creates havoc for almost every aspect of metabolism.

I’m chelating with Dr. Cutler’s

frequent (low) dose method using DMPS (will be taking 5 mg every 6 hours for 3

days with breaks of 4 days as soon as it arrives – was taking 15 mg each

dose continuously but that proved to be too much for me). Cutler’s

method, when done correctly, is safe and effective for most people. See http://www.noamalgam.com and the Yahoo

group frequent-dose-chelation for more info. Many have found that their thyroid

and adrenal problems resolve after sufficient mercury removal.

DMPS and alpha lipoic acid are the other

two substances that can effectively chelate mercury. Neither should be taken by

a mercury toxic person unless they’re taken frequently enough in small

doses (DMSA every 4 hours, alpha lipoic every 3 hours – around the

clock!). This is all about how chemistry works in the body. And by the way,

surprisingly enough, medical doctors don’t learn very much biochemistry.

Dr. Cutler has a PhD in chemistry from Princeton.

He was mercury toxic and, with his knowledge of chemistry, figured out how to

cure himself.

Dana

From:

RT3_T3 [mailto:RT3_T3 ] On Behalf Of Leisa Forman

I have high mercury and not sure how to get rid of it. I tried

the chelation and got way way sick. Since I have adrenal and low sodium

potassium and more, it really thrw me off.

January 7, 2009

HiI have high mercury and sometimes eat a lot of cilantro (1/4 lb) because I thought the mercury particle bind to it and it is voided out of your system.Are you saying it is unhealthy to do this? Speaking of cilantro OR chlorella.Or are you talking about something totally diff? I also like to drink wheatgrass to try to help myself out. Do u know if that's good or no

good?Thanks!Donna R. Also, using things like cilantro or chlorella can cause severe problems

in some people.

January 7, 2009

I don’t know about wheatgrass –

haven’t heard much comment one way or the other. The key is whether it

contains the sulfur compounds necessary to react with mercury. I’m not

certain but don’t believe that’s a big factor with wheatgrass. I believe

the major beneficial component of wheatgrass is chlorophyll which has a core of

magnesium.

As far as cilantro – I think it

really does depend on the person. Anyone who is significantly mercury toxic is

that way because of some degree of genetic deficiency in the ability to

naturally eliminate mercury. With a moderate to severe deficiency in that

ability, cilantro will tend to grab mercury, move it around, but not be able to

“hang on” long enough to get it all the way out of the system. And cilantro

apparently has the ability to cross the blood brain barrier so can move stuff

around (and into) the central nervous system where it stays unless chelated out

with alpha lipoic acid (the only chelator that can get into the brain and deep

tissues).

Cilantro may have some of the same

abilities as alpha lipoic acid, but how cilantro works isn’t understood,

so how to work with it safely isn’t known. I’ve heard some horror

stories about this and about chlorella. I’m mercury toxic and avoid

cilantro like the plague. Yes, it moves mercury around but not necessarily

safely. It’s bond to mercury is probably not all that strong. And again –

the problem is that it’s action isn’t understood.

The way chelators work effectively is they

have a chemical component called a thiol which is based on sulfur and has the

ability to combine chemically with mercury. DMPS, DMSA, and alpha lipoic acid

are “di-thiols” containing two times the mercury chelating power.

However, these chemical reactions (where the sulfur-containing thiol grabs

mercury) are dynamic – so the bonds don’t hold indefinitely

(usually for a very short time). Also, a single thiol substance has only one “hand”

to grab the mercury, where a di-thiol grabs with two “hands.” Say a

mercury molecule is tied up to a single thiol in a body tissue. When a di-thiol

(or even another single thiol since the bonds aren’t all that strong) comes

along it has a stronger pull so can grab the mercury. But then after a time

(not very much time) the bond can weaken and break. If there’s another

di-thiol to grab it, that’s a good thing, but if not the mercury gets

dropped off in another spot, causing more havoc. If there is a constant blood

level of strong chelators over a period of time, the mercury can get shuttled

all the way out of the system. Otherwise redistribution happens, causing damage

and symptoms.

Dana

From:

RT3_T3 [mailto:RT3_T3 ] On Behalf Of Donna Regan

Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009

11:12 AM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: Important to

track antibodies

Hi

I have high mercury and sometimes eat a lot of cilantro (1/4 lb) because I

thought the mercury particle bind to it and it is voided out of your system.

Are you saying it is unhealthy to do this? Speaking of cilantro OR

chlorella.

Or are you talking about something totally diff? I also like to drink

wheatgrass to try to help myself out. Do u know if that's good or no good?

Thanks!

Donna R

.. Also, using things like cilantro or chlorella can cause severe

problems in some people.

January 7, 2009

They never tell you the FULL STORY. People have thrown out how cilantro will help you clear mercurybut it's not that simple is it? There are so many problems with me, it would take 10 years to tackle themall. Sometimes I get frustrated. I haven't even balanced my thyroid & adrenals yet after 4 years - good grief.Well so much for the cilantro.ThanksDonna R To: RT3_T3 Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 1:42:51 PMSubject: RE: Important to track antibodies

I don’t know about wheatgrass –

haven’t heard much comment one way or the other. The key is whether it

contains the sulfur compounds necessary to react with mercury. I’m not

certain but don’t believe that’s a big factor with wheatgrass. I believe

the major beneficial component of wheatgrass is chlorophyll which has a core of

magnesium. As far as cilantro – I think it