Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 --- A Little <allists@...> wrote: > Has anyone done a flush without epsom salts or organic apple juice, > i.e. > only the olive oil/citrus mixture? The last three cleanses I have done without using epsom salts. I drink the apple juice on a regular basis, but don't do large amounts of it. I've had good results without the ES, so that's how I will do it from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 In a message dated 12/13/01 10:12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, allists@... writes: > 3 x > p.a. sounds like maintenance to me! > I hate to show my ignorance here, but....what does " p.a. " mean??? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 In a message dated 12/13/01 10:31:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, adriennelynn1@... writes: > Hey, I think I just got it! per annum: 3 times per year! Haha! > Adrienne > Mystery solved! Thanks, Adrienne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Hi, I've done 5 epsom cleanses at two week interals each, with no ill effects that I'm aware of. Although the amount of stones has lessoned dramatically, I think I need to do a few more before I'm on a maintainence schedule. However, I'm going to wait 4 weeks before I do another one. Felt last time I did the cleanse that I needed to take a longer break before doing the next one. On a side note: it's been 8 days since I did the 5th cleanse, and I've come down with a minor head cold...headache and sniffles. Adrienne --- A Little <allists@...> wrote: > Has anyone done a flush without epsom salts or organic apple juice, > i.e. > only the olive oil/citrus mixture? I'm concerned about the long term > effect > of epsom salts if I take it every two weeks for however long it takes > to > clean my system out; at the same time I'n in a hurry to get rid of > the gunk > inside me, so I don't want to space the flushes far apart either. > > Any thoughts on the matter? > > Annie > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 I did a cleanse last weekend, and then I got a cold this week and felt like death warmed up, so I figured I might as well do another one (thought it would cheer me up! And it did) - that was yesterday. I had very good results - lots of green gunk - more than the previous time. I realise that I won't be able to do two a week normally though - but I'm at home at the moment with nothing much to do, so I get a lot of rest. I think I will also carry on with the cleanses until I stop getting results - I was just wondering what other people are doing, and whether there is an " official " recommendation from the experts. I saw that Cacot says to do it 3 x p.a., but " some people do it monthly with no ill effects " . 3 x p.a. sounds like maintenance to me! Annie >From: Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@...> > >Hi, >I've done 5 epsom cleanses at two week interals each, with no ill >effects that I'm aware of. Although the amount of stones has lessoned >dramatically, I think I need to do a few more before I'm on a >maintainence schedule. However, I'm going to wait 4 weeks before I do >another one. Felt last time I did the cleanse that I needed to take a >longer break before doing the next one. On a side note: it's been 8 >days since I did the 5th cleanse, and I've come down with a minor head >cold...headache and sniffles. >Adrienne > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Hi again, Don't know if you've already read this before, but Hulda says that you need to pass 2000 stones before your liver is cleansed. She does recommend at least a two week interval between her cleanses, which include the epsom. She states one reason. That is, it takes time for the stones to " roll forward. " We've discussed this before, maybe a month ago...and someone gave another reason for the two week interval, that being that the cleanses possibly strip you of minerals ( I think), maybe also upseting your electrolyte balance, so you need time to recoup. If you go back a little in the posts, you might be able to find the discussion and get more info. Adrienne ;-) --- A Little <allists@...> wrote: > I did a cleanse last weekend, and then I got a cold this week and > felt like > death warmed up, so I figured I might as well do another one (thought > it > would cheer me up! And it did) - that was yesterday. I had very > good > results - lots of green gunk - more than the previous time. I > realise that > I won't be able to do two a week normally though - but I'm at home at > the > moment with nothing much to do, so I get a lot of rest. > > I think I will also carry on with the cleanses until I stop getting > results > - I was just wondering what other people are doing, and whether there > is an > " official " recommendation from the experts. I saw that Cacot > says to > do it 3 x p.a., but " some people do it monthly with no ill effects " . > 3 x > p.a. sounds like maintenance to me! > > Annie > > > >From: Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@...> > > > >Hi, > >I've done 5 epsom cleanses at two week interals each, with no ill > >effects that I'm aware of. Although the amount of stones has > lessoned > >dramatically, I think I need to do a few more before I'm on a > >maintainence schedule. However, I'm going to wait 4 weeks before I > do > >another one. Felt last time I did the cleanse that I needed to take > a > >longer break before doing the next one. On a side note: it's been 8 > >days since I did the 5th cleanse, and I've come down with a minor > head > >cold...headache and sniffles. > >Adrienne > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 That's ok , I don't know what p.a. is either! hehe! Adrienne --- Rachd1961@... wrote: > In a message dated 12/13/01 10:12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > allists@... writes: > > > > 3 x > > p.a. sounds like maintenance to me! > > > > I hate to show my ignorance here, but....what does " p.a. " mean??? > Thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Hey, I think I just got it! per annum: 3 times per year! Haha! Adrienne --- Rachd1961@... wrote: > In a message dated 12/13/01 10:12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > allists@... writes: > > > > 3 x > > p.a. sounds like maintenance to me! > > > > I hate to show my ignorance here, but....what does " p.a. " mean??? > Thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 per annum >From: Rachd1961@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: flush - epsom salts? >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:13:40 EST > >In a message dated 12/13/01 10:12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, >allists@... writes: > > > > 3 x > > p.a. sounds like maintenance to me! > > > >I hate to show my ignorance here, but....what does " p.a. " mean??? >Thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Wow - 2000 will take me a while! I estimate that I passed maybe 75 the first time, and 100 the 2nd time. >From: Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@...> >> >Hi again, >Don't know if you've already read this before, but Hulda says >that you need to pass 2000 stones before your liver is cleansed. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Hi Annie, I believe Epsom salts is made up of stuff that are naturally in our bodies anyway, but not as concentrated. It doesn't seem that there would be any long term effects from using it to flush with every two weeks until the stones stop coming. I have waited more than two weeks in between flushes when I felt that I wasn't as recuperated as I wanted to be. I'm up to four flushes now and only the first two were as close as two weeks apart. I've seen much improvement already. The Hulda flush method has worked so well for me that I'm hesitant to use another. A lot of people have had good results with other flushes too, so I wouldn't rule out any other type if I had the inclination to change to another flush. Vince >From: " A Little " <allists@...> >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: flush - epsom salts? >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:40:06 +0000 > >Has anyone done a flush without epsom salts or organic apple juice, i.e. >only the olive oil/citrus mixture? I'm concerned about the long term >effect >of epsom salts if I take it every two weeks for however long it takes to >clean my system out; at the same time I'n in a hurry to get rid of the gunk >inside me, so I don't want to space the flushes far apart either. > >Any thoughts on the matter? > >Annie > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > > >Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories: >http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials > >Liver Cleanse Recipe: >http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > >Images: >http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ >http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > >Post message: gallstones >Receive no-mail: gallstones-nomail >Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe >Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe > >Web Sites for more information: >http://CureZone.com/gallstones/ >http://www.liverdoctor.com/ >http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ >http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > >Group page: gallstones >Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstones > >To change your subscription to digest (receive up to 25 e-mails in just one >single e-mail, once a day) send blank e-mail to: >gallstones-digest > >To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: >gallstones-nomail > >To change your subscription to NORMAL (receive each message separate) >send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > >You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the >Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold >yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! >Have a nice day ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 We've discussed this before, maybe a month ago...and someone gave another reason for the two week interval, that being that the cleanses possibly strip you of minerals ( I think), maybe also upseting your electrolyte balance, so you need time to recoup. If you go back a little in the posts, you might be able to find the discussion and get more info. >> ********************* Hello, it is a good idea to wait at least a couple of weeks. Hulda may be right about stones rolling forward, but you need to build your electrolyte balance back up again, take lots of vitamins, etc. Another reason is that sometimes stones move away from the GB which have been laying against it for some time. This can cause an irritation when it moves away from the lining of the GB. Best time to take your natural antibiotics, like garlic, olive leaf extract, golden seal, etc. Drinking lemon water is good for healting too. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Annie, I tried the flush a few weeks ago without the epsom salts, and I had no reaction. I took a whole cup of olive oil, and a whole cup of grapefruit juice after fasting 1/2 day. The next day -- nothing. No stones, no diarrhea. My body just digested the mixture as if it were just a meal I had eaten. I am trying the flush again today -- with the epsom salts, but I am going to try 1/2 the amount in my cup of water. The epsom salts usually gives me severe diarrhea, that is the part I hate. I think I am just sensitive to it, so I hope this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 " V. Richter " <new_man85@h...> wrote on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:27:34 -0600: >I believe Epsom salts is made up of stuff that are naturally in our bodies >anyway, but not as concentrated. It is magnesium sulfate. Does anyone know if magnesium hydroxide would be just as effective? ----------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON ----------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 " A Little " <allists@h...> wrote on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 03:09:05 +0000: >I did a cleanse last weekend, and then I got a cold this week and felt like >death warmed up, so I figured I might as well do another one (thought it >would cheer me up! And it did) - that was yesterday. I had very good >results - lots of green gunk - more than the previous time. I wonder what the chance is that such green gunk is nothing more that the olive oil in processed form. Does anyone know for sure that this is not the case? I realise that I won't be able to do two a week normally though - but I'm at home at the moment with nothing much to do, so I get a lot of rest. ----------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON Today's Quote " Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel. " --- Zuheir Muhsin, late Military Department head of the PLO and member of its Executive Council, Dutch daily Touw, March 1977. (Quoted by Joan s in " From Time Immemorial, " p. 137) ----------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 Hi Ira, This idea has come up a couple times since I've been posting on this board. If you search the archives, I think it was either Dale or Agnes that posted a good response to this idea. I can't remember what was said, but as I've thought about it, I've come to the conclusion, that those of us with GB problems have sluggish or stressed-out livers. I think that it's the job of our livers to flush out chaff normally with the bile that is excreted every day. When the liver is sluggish or overwhelmed, it allows for stone formation. Well, this is certainly not a scientific opinion (hehe), just my thoughts. Adrienne --- " Ira L. son " <laser@...> wrote: > > " A Little " <allists@h...> wrote on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 03:09:05 +0000: > > >I did a cleanse last weekend, and then I got a cold this week and > felt like > >death warmed up, so I figured I might as well do another one > (thought it > >would cheer me up! And it did) - that was yesterday. I had very good > >results - lots of green gunk - more than the previous time. > > I wonder what the chance is that such green gunk is nothing more that > the > olive oil in processed form. > > Does anyone know for sure that this is not the case? > I realise that > I won't be able to do two a week normally though - but I'm at home at > the > moment with nothing much to do, so I get a lot of rest. > > > > ----------------------- > IRA L. JACOBSON > > Today's Quote > > " Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves > only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state > is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel. " > --- Zuheir Muhsin, late Military Department head of the > PLO and member of its Executive Council, Dutch daily > Touw, March 1977. (Quoted by Joan s in " From > Time Immemorial, " p. 137) > > ----------------------- > mailto:laser@... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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