Re: forgot this part

[Guest guest]

Here is a list he might refer to:

http://felix.unife.it/Root/d-Medicine/d-Oncology/d-Special-oncology/d-

Prostate-cancer/b-Prostate-cancer-famous

Or here:

Famous people died from prostate cancer

Ablin (-1979)

Don Ameche (actor, 85)

Baudouin (king of Belgium)

Bill Bixby (actor, 59)

S. Cala (co-founder Cala Foods, 79)

Casey (former CIA director)

(sociologist, 68)

Sylvio Conte (former US representative)

Crowley (Crowley Maritime Corp., 79)

Orval Faubus (former Arkansas governor, 83)

de Gaulle (French statesman)

Roswell Gilpatric (former deputy secretary of defense, 80)

o Gracindo (actor, 84)

Ernest Hahn (real estate developer)

Herriott (author, 78)

Felix Houphouet-Boigny (president Ivory Coast, 88)

Hunter (president Mormon Church, 87)

Irving Kahn (cable television pioneer, 76)

Khomeini (Iranian leader, 89)

Leary (ca. 1921-1996, LSD-prophet)

Lilly (geneticist, 65)

Curtis Lowe (jazz saxophonist, 73)

Spark Matsunaga (former US senator, 73)

Bob Maynard (publisher - The Oakland Tribune, 56)

Tom McDermott (TV and movie actor, 83)

Bob McNett (Drifting Cowboys Band, 69)

Francois Mitterrand (French statesman, 79)

Mobutu Sese Seko (Dictator in Zaire, 66)

von Neumann (1903-1957, mathematician)

Ormsby (race car driver, 47)

Aram Oski (physician, ca. 1932-1996)

Turgut Ozal (president of Turkey, 66)

ph Papp (theatrical producer)

Linus ing (1901-1994, chemist)

Harvey Penick (golf instructor, 90)

(motion picture producer, 65)

Bobby Riggs (tennis player, 77)

Fred Ross (union organizer, 82)

Steve Ross (CEO Time-Warner, 65)

Hobart Rowan (columnist - The Washington Post, 76)

Cornelius (author)

Dick Sargent (actor, 64)

Telly Savalas (actor, 70)

Sheehan (running guru, physician and author, 74)

Otis (Michigan supreme court judge, 72)

Tower (former US senator)

Unruh (former California treasurer)

Walsh (founder of project HOPE, ca. 1920-1996)

Del Webb (sportsman and real estate developer)

Witter (Dean-Witter-Reynolds, 63)

ph Wortis (psychiatrist, 80)

York (film editor, 66)

Zappa (rock star, 52)

Guess this is one of those who fit the one about:

" What do you call a doctor that graduated? at the bottom of his

class???

Answer: Doctor

The medical specialist in question probably would use the

caveat : " Well I did not personally know them! "

Fuller

>

> I am sorry, if this wasn't so tragically pathetic, I would enjoy

laughing at the " MD? " . I hear ducks or maybe the uro does not know

many people.

> Steve H. RN MS

> forgot this part

>

>

> Jim's Kaiser urologist told him that he has never known anyone

who died

> of prostate cancer. Do I hear the sound of jaws dropping. This

idiot

> has been with Kaiser since 1998.

>

> Laurel

>

[Guest guest]

This doctor probably would say that he did not know any of the men on

the list personally. Hard to believe that in 10 years of practicing

urology with Kaiser he has never lost a patient to prostate cancer.

They have such a huge volume of patients in our area.

This is the same uro who told another friend that, if he had him do

his surgery he had a 97% chance of remaining potent, and that the

most a man loses in penile size after surgery is 1/4 inch. He sounds

to me like an arrogant SOB. This is the uro Gregg was first assigned

to see when he had his bladder cancer. Thank God he asked for a

sooner appointment, got a different doctor and dodged this guy.

Laurel

> >

> > I am sorry, if this wasn't so tragically pathetic, I would enjoy

> laughing at the " MD? " . I hear ducks or maybe the uro does not know

> many people.

> > Steve H. RN MS

> > forgot this part

> >

> >

> > Jim's Kaiser urologist told him that he has never known anyone

> who died

> > of prostate cancer. Do I hear the sound of jaws dropping. This

> idiot

> > has been with Kaiser since 1998.

> >

> > Laurel

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow...

I'm feeling better about the treatment I'm getting locally. Dr.

Ritter is a radiation oncologist, who specializes in PCa.

I haven't compared the summary of the dose escalation trial to other

types of treatment, but right off...95% disease free, using PSA

nadir plus two more PSA tests is not a bad number. The SK nomogram

gave me 5 years progression free figures of 89% for surgery, 92% for

EBRT, and 83% for Brachytherapy. The sample is small, and it's all

quite preliminary, but if they can do 95% consistantly, it's a

winner.

Problem is no long term results, cuz it just hasn't

been...well...long term!

I believe the rate of side effects compares well to protons, but

like I say...I haven't compared them closely yet.

My best,

Dan

[Guest guest]

<snip> I believe the rate of side effects compares well to protons,

but like I say...I haven't compared them closely yet. < <snip>

And you cannot, unless you are prepared to wait at a minimum five

years, preferably ten.

You may be interested to know that this company that you made me

aware of, " TomoTherapy, Inc. " the manufacturers of the TomoTherapy Hi-

Art Helical IMRT machine that you are considering using for your

treatment, has licensed the rights to the Lawrence Livermore

Laboratories/University of California proposed " Room Sized " Proton

Accelerator. See:

https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/news_releases/2007/NR-07-06-

06.html

Fuller

>

> Wow...

>

> I'm feeling better about the treatment I'm getting locally. Dr.

> Ritter is a radiation oncologist, who specializes in PCa.

>

> I haven't compared the summary of the dose escalation trial to

other

> types of treatment, but right off...95% disease free, using PSA

> nadir plus two more PSA tests is not a bad number. The SK nomogram

> gave me 5 years progression free figures of 89% for surgery, 92%

for

> EBRT, and 83% for Brachytherapy. The sample is small, and it's all

> quite preliminary, but if they can do 95% consistantly, it's a

> winner.

>

> Problem is no long term results, cuz it just hasn't

> been...well...long term!

>

> I believe the rate of side effects compares well to protons, but

> like I say...I haven't compared them closely yet.

>

> My best,

> Dan

>