Re: flourescent lights (was I made it....)

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Good for you and for your students! I think a lot of so called

learning disabilities and behavior disorders are becuase of

flourescent lights. Also when people melt down on the job and

attack their coworkers ( " going postal " ) I wonder how much

flourescent ligths have to do with that. Several of my peers

appreciated my Ott light, and found that it helped them in that

horriblitte room with no windows, also.

It was really interesting seeing how the vernier sensor picked up a

definite flicker from the flourescent lights on the side of the room

away from the windows, and only a slight ripple on the side where I

was sitting, near the windows.

>

> What a terrific experience for you Joni. Congratulations on doing

so well!

>

> A few thousand years ago (it seems) I taught math to students who

were in the General stream because they had never understood math

before. I tried to keep the flourescent lights off in the classroom

and I allowed them to wear hats whenever they liked, and escpecially

if the lights had to be on. (If only one student needed the lights

they had to be on). There were a lot of discussions at staff

meetings about letting students wear hats, and the final verdict

was, NO HATS ALLOWED. I stood up and told the teachers again why it

was that I felt that they should be allowed. The principal then

said that if I could get a medical diagnosis from the students, then

for sure, they would be allowed.

>

> Well of course, in a poverty stricken area - or in any area

perhaps, I knew that I would not get a medical diagnosis for any of

those kids in time for that calendar year, so I let them wear their

hats anyway. The teacher next door went and 'ratted me out' to the

principal. Because he had not told me within 24 hours, I went to

him and was in the more powerful position because I could have had

him severly disciplined - or even fired.

>

> I didn't ever get bothered again about letting my students wear

hats - or turning off the lights.

>

> And I guess you know that the students learned a lot more and did

much better than they ever had before?

>

> I'm glad to hear that this difficulty is more recognized now.

(This happened in about 1994-6)

>

> jo

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>

>

> I made it thru the first semsester at

grad school!

>

> I havn't been posting much lately because I've been very busy with

a

> 6 week intensive term at the university, working on my master's in

> math education. However, I have been reading other's posts.

>

> This morning I turned in the last of my term projects and went

home

> and took a nap! I got one of my final exams back already, I got a

> perfect score! I'm particulary proud because it was a five

question

> exam and only one of the questions could be solved by the normal

> sort of straightforward thought. The other four were what one of

> the professors refers to as " Zen Math, that is, you stare at the

> question until you see the answer. " (My adopted brother/SO, who is

> an expert in Asian religions and probalby an aspie also,

> says, " technically, taht's not Zen math, that's more like Daoist

> math. " )

>

> I also figured out why I flunked out of grad school some years

ago.

> There were certain classes that I just could not concentrate,

could

> not even stay awake. I had frequent headaches that had no apparent

> connection to stress or diet, and I often melted down and behaved

> erratically. I got several " C's " , which in grad school is like

> an " F " , and had to resign. At the time I thought, I guess I just

> don't have what it takes to do the higher math. Now that I think

> back on it, all the classes that I did poorly in were in this

> horrible classroom that was too small, had no windows to let in

any

> natural light, and was lit entirely by flourescent lights. My

> adopted brother helped me figure out by AK testing that

flourescent

> lights cause me problems, so I got a small reading lamp and a

> visor. Also I made sure that when I am in a room with windows, to

> sit near the window and get some natrual light. Surprise! No more

> difficulty concentrating, no more mystery headaches, and I may

well

> be headed to a straight A report this term!

>

can

> work out a reasonable accomodation. " In fact I have had a few

> reasonable accomodations. What a difference an official diagnosis

> makes!

>

> I'm back.

> Joni

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----- Original Message -----

> Good for you and for your students! I think a lot of so called

> learning disabilities and behavior disorders are becuase of

> flourescent lights. Also when people melt down on the job and

> attack their coworkers ( " going postal " ) I wonder how much

> flourescent ligths have to do with that.

I had a near meltdown at my job yesterday. The fluorescent lights combined

with that awful music someone had turned up high was just too much. I felt

lousy for the rest of the day. I can't sleep but a few hours at night (I

awoke with tears in my eyes last night at about 2:30 am after having had a

dream of my boss being mean to me) and still feel bad the next day.

D.

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Hey, maybe that was part of the overstimulation yesterday that left me

completely sleepless last night. I didn't think of it, but part of the day was

spent under florescent lights, which is rare for me.

I didn't awake from a dream last night at 2:30, but I was still rocking and

trying to settle down. (I wasnt' upset about anything) I think it took me until

about 6:30 am - and then the dogs woke me up at 7...sigh (and I'm not even

dealing with a bad boss) Usually I sleep really well.

-jo

Re: flourescent lights (was I made it....)

----- Original Message -----

From: " jonipinkney " <jonipinkney@ yahoo.com>

> Good for you and for your students! I think a lot of so called

> learning disabilities and behavior disorders are becuase of

> flourescent lights. Also when people melt down on the job and

> attack their coworkers ( " going postal " ) I wonder how much

> flourescent ligths have to do with that.

I had a near meltdown at my job yesterday. The fluorescent lights combined

with that awful music someone had turned up high was just too much. I felt

lousy for the rest of the day. I can't sleep but a few hours at night (I

awoke with tears in my eyes last night at about 2:30 am after having had a

dream of my boss being mean to me) and still feel bad the next day.

D.

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ps. It was at 2:30 am that the crying happened, which was the point of sending

that last email...

jo

Re: flourescent lights (was I made it....)

----- Original Message -----

From: " jonipinkney " <jonipinkney@ yahoo.com>

> Good for you and for your students! I think a lot of so called

> learning disabilities and behavior disorders are becuase of

> flourescent lights. Also when people melt down on the job and

> attack their coworkers ( " going postal " ) I wonder how much

> flourescent ligths have to do with that.

I had a near meltdown at my job yesterday. The fluorescent lights combined

with that awful music someone had turned up high was just too much. I felt

lousy for the rest of the day. I can't sleep but a few hours at night (I

awoke with tears in my eyes last night at about 2:30 am after having had a

dream of my boss being mean to me) and still feel bad the next day.

D.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have photosensitive epelepsy. So I always thought I could see the lights

flickering because of that. But my medication has been increased and although I

am not getting the siezures I can still see it. What I find worse (because there

are so many of them in peoples' houses) is energy saving light bulbs. My mum who

has AS as well, can also see them and finds it quite painful.

Has anybody got some smart tricks about how to deal with this

Delila wrote:

----- Original Message -----

> Good for you and for your students! I think a lot of so called

> learning disabilities and behavior disorders are becuase of

> flourescent lights. Also when people melt down on the job and

> attack their coworkers ( " going postal " ) I wonder how much

> flourescent ligths have to do with that.

I had a near meltdown at my job yesterday. The fluorescent lights combined

with that awful music someone had turned up high was just too much. I felt

lousy for the rest of the day. I can't sleep but a few hours at night (I

awoke with tears in my eyes last night at about 2:30 am after having had a

dream of my boss being mean to me) and still feel bad the next day.

D.

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[Guest guest]

> I have photosensitive epelepsy. So I always thought I could

> see the lights flickering because of that. But my medication

> has been increased and although I am not getting the siezures

> I can still see it. What I find worse (because there are so

> many of them in peoples' houses) is energy saving light bulbs.

>

> Has anybody got some smart tricks about how to deal with

> this

What you are seeing is a poor light quality. CF bulbs flicker

at between 2 kHz and 40 kHz, which far exceeds the ability of

the optic nerves to respond to flicker. Fortunately, electronic

ballasts are currently less expensive to operate, although they

still cost twice that of magnetic ballasts. Appling 's

Law, we should see electronic ballasts in all new fluorescent

lights in 2-4 years. Electronic ballasts are already used

exclusively in CF lights and computer flat panel screens.

The trick is to mix incandescent light or natural light with

fluorescent light. This is especially effective when electronic

ballasts are used, as is the case with CF fluorescent lights.

More at:

http://www.scn.org/autistics/fluorescents.html

- s

[Guest guest]

Thanks alot.

Stan's Computer wrote: On 30 Aug 2007 frank

oldroyd wrote:

> I have photosensitive epelepsy. So I always thought I could

> see the lights flickering because of that. But my medication

> has been increased and although I am not getting the siezures

> I can still see it. What I find worse (because there are so

> many of them in peoples' houses) is energy saving light bulbs.

>

> Has anybody got some smart tricks about how to deal with

> this

What you are seeing is a poor light quality. CF bulbs flicker

at between 2 kHz and 40 kHz, which far exceeds the ability of

the optic nerves to respond to flicker. Fortunately, electronic

ballasts are currently less expensive to operate, although they

still cost twice that of magnetic ballasts. Appling 's

Law, we should see electronic ballasts in all new fluorescent

lights in 2-4 years. Electronic ballasts are already used

exclusively in CF lights and computer flat panel screens.

The trick is to mix incandescent light or natural light with

fluorescent light. This is especially effective when electronic

ballasts are used, as is the case with CF fluorescent lights.

More at:

http://www.scn.org/autistics/fluorescents.html

- s

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Second comment;

I hope you are feeling better now - post melt down. I also have dreams about

people being mean to me. This is probally the main reason I have issues with

anxity - this is the main trigger for having siezures. I am lucky as I have a

husband who is the opposite of AS - he has exceptional people skills and I

beilive what he tells me. So when I get worried about social situations he can

usually talk me out of it and give hints about what to expect. I also support a

man with AS who has huge anxity issues between the three of us we manage to

figure out what is going on - well more than if we did not support each other.

Delila wrote:

----- Original Message -----

> Good for you and for your students! I think a lot of so called

> learning disabilities and behavior disorders are becuase of

> flourescent lights. Also when people melt down on the job and

> attack their coworkers ( " going postal " ) I wonder how much

> flourescent ligths have to do with that.

I had a near meltdown at my job yesterday. The fluorescent lights combined

with that awful music someone had turned up high was just too much. I felt

lousy for the rest of the day. I can't sleep but a few hours at night (I

awoke with tears in my eyes last night at about 2:30 am after having had a

dream of my boss being mean to me) and still feel bad the next day.

D.

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