Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 Hi Audrey This is a tricky one. I was disappointed not to see the dramatic improvements some have seen when starting enzymes BUT we came off diet with first dose and no regression. That kept me going, then I tried to be very objective, not easy being a mum as well and I realised we had improved stools and skin after anout 3 weeks. So I knew something was happening. For Sam, 4 at the time (we have been on HNI since June 2001), it turned out to be yeast overgrowth masking big improvements but we had small continual sustained improvements which continue to this day and big ones in socialbility and eye contact when we treated the yeast. I'm very very glad I stuck with it. How old is your child, are they on diet, have you seen anything physical like the improved stool to give you a clue to any effect. My advice would be, if you can afford it, give it 2 months, minimum 3 weeks on full dose with all food and reassess. We were saving money by being off diet so that covered costs and some for us. Good luck with whatever you decide Mandi in UK > My son has been on enzymes (pep and zyme) for a good three weeks now- > full doses at all three meals for 2 weeks. I have been keeping very > detailed notes about his days. I'm just not sure I am seeing enough > improvement to warrant continuing with the expense each month (tight > budget-though this would not matter if were seeing enough > improvement). How do you guys decide whether or not to continue. I > would like to hear from both sides if you have the time. Thanks. > > Audrey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 My son has been taking enzymes for roughly a month. Changes are very subtle. He seems much happier. Laughs at more appropriate times. Not as resistant to transitions. Also, seems to help dark circles under the eyes. (I have been trying to get rid of these since he was three. He's six now.) I will continue with the enzymes. In fact I think I will add the No-Fenol in a few weeks. I think we have phenol problems that are still causing behavior problems. Even though improvements with enzymes are subtle and slow, I think I see enough improvement to try and remove the Concerta and lower the Zyprexa. The changes I have seen are hard to attribute just to enzymes because I have been doing other things also. Like added Super Nu Thera vitamins and Epsom salt baths. Just this weekend started adding MSM. Also, added Cod Liver Oil and Flaxseed Oil. I'm excited about the subtle improvements and will continue on and hope for added improvements. Spencer's Mom, > Hi, > > My son has been on enzymes (pep and zyme) for a good three weeks now- > full doses at all three meals for 2 weeks. I have been keeping very > detailed notes about his days. I'm just not sure I am seeing enough > improvement to warrant continuing with the expense each month (tight > budget-though this would not matter if were seeing enough > improvement). How do you guys decide whether or not to continue. I > would like to hear from both sides if you have the time. Thanks. > > Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 > Hi, > > My son has been on enzymes (pep and zyme) for a good three weeks now- > full doses at all three meals for 2 weeks. Do you give enzymes with all his snacks also? > I have been keeping very > detailed notes about his days. I'm just not sure I am seeing enough > improvement to warrant continuing with the expense each month (tight > budget-though this would not matter if were seeing enough > improvement). How do you guys decide whether or not to continue. My kids are highly metal toxic, so the improvement I saw with enzymes was " good " , but my kids still reached a plateau even with enzymes. The good thing for me, and why I am continuing them, is that enzymes allow me to feed my kids foods. They tolerate only four foods without enzymes, and no supplements. And with enzymes I can feed them most foods, and a few supplements. Chelation is vastly improving my kids, but I still think the enzymes are important, otherwise I would have almost nothing I would be able to feed them, and they would not receive necessary nutrition. You can consider stopping the enzymes, and see if you see any regression. You can also consider that you are still feeding your child a food which the enzymes are not helping with, so that would mask the effectiveness of the enzymes. Or perhaps your child does not have food issues. Consider metals tho, because that is my children's main issue. http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/chelate.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 That is a hard question especially if your child's skills and or behaviors are inconsistent- sometimes good and sometimes bad or what. i would suggest that you pick a few areas in your mind that you would like to see improvement in- areas that if your son would improve on, the enzymes would be worth it. for example, i decided that if Michoel would wake up in the morning in a better mood than he usually does, the enzymes are worth it, even if he isnt go great the rest of the day. I mean, he HAS been better the rest of the day too- but i'v decided the minimum i would have to see to stick to these enzymes was better mood upon wakening. You might decide on things like more eye contact, better speech, or anything else. That you keep any eye on those areas. Rivky [ ] How do I know? > Hi, > > My son has been on enzymes (pep and zyme) for a good three weeks now- > full doses at all three meals for 2 weeks. I have been keeping very > detailed notes about his days. I'm just not sure I am seeing enough > improvement to warrant continuing with the expense each month (tight > budget-though this would not matter if were seeing enough > improvement). How do you guys decide whether or not to continue. I > would like to hear from both sides if you have the time. Thanks. > > Audrey > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 I would add in the No-Fenol before you give up... [ ] How do I know? Hi, My son has been on enzymes (pep and zyme) for a good three weeks now- full doses at all three meals for 2 weeks. I have been keeping very detailed notes about his days. I'm just not sure I am seeing enough improvement to warrant continuing with the expense each month (tight budget-though this would not matter if were seeing enough improvement). How do you guys decide whether or not to continue. I would like to hear from both sides if you have the time. Thanks. Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hi a & welcome to our group: We have some very helpful " severity assessment forms " from Cranial Tech in our " files " section " severity assessment forms " . This might help you determine how mild or severe your son's plagio is. I'd recommend you reposition him right now to avoid any further flattening & help round out his flatness right now. He's at a great young age to get results from repositioning. We have very helpful repositioning info in our " files " section " repositioning headquarters " and many helpful product repositioning links in our " links " section. My daughter's plagio was pretty severe, she was born with it as her's began in utero, so our ped pointed her plagio out to us at just her 2 week chk up. Good luck, keep us posted. Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad MI > Hi I have a 2 month old son and I've notice that he has a littleflat > spot on his right side...now how do I know if the mild flattening is > normal or not? I will ask the ped we go for his 2 month well visit > next week but i guess what I'm asking is every child with a flat spot > diagnosed to having plagio???? > a > 9/10/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Make sure you keep an eye on the flat spot and if it is not going away or even getting worse, try to demand a further assessment w/ a Cranial Tech site or a neurosurgeon. So many docs say that the flat spots will round out on their own--many do just that, but sometimes further treatment is required. The earlier the problem is addressed, the more successful treatment is going to be. In the meantime, welcome to the group and good luck with repositioning and tummy time! Kim--Gus' mom DOC Band 8/21/03 > Hi I have a 2 month old son and I've notice that he has a littleflat > spot on his right side...now how do I know if the mild flattening is > normal or not? I will ask the ped we go for his 2 month well visit > next week but i guess what I'm asking is every child with a flat spot > diagnosed to having plagio???? > a > 9/10/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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