Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Our younger son has had cloudy urine for the past week. He has been on antifungals, but other than that, there have not been any changes. Can someone remind me what the possible causes are for cloudy urine? Thanks, L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 ... you might check on UTI.. I'm sure there are other things too but this is what it means at our house. Best Wishes, > > Our younger son has had cloudy urine for the past week. He has been on > antifungals, but other than that, there have not been any changes. > > > > Can someone remind me what the possible causes are for cloudy urine? > > > > Thanks, L > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I agree a urinary infection always needs to be considered, but there are many benign causes of cloudy urine, mostly from foods or some medicines. Why don't you wait until after the anti-fungals and see if it clears up? That is, unless he is uncomfortable, urine smells very strong, has urgency or pain etc. - even dehydration can cause it, so push fluids if possible. DrJM Subject: Re: cloudy urine? To: csb-autism-rx Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 8:40 AM ... you might check on UTI.. I'm sure there are other things too but this is what it means at our house. Best Wishes, > > Our younger son has had cloudy urine for the past week. He has been on > antifungals, but other than that, there have not been any changes. > > > > Can someone remind me what the possible causes are for cloudy urine? > > > > Thanks, L > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 , If it is oxalates, it should precipitate out. If you have a microscope you can compare the crystals to pictures of the different types of crystals. I have a picture I could send you of how when one child was dumping the crystals settled out in a test tube leaving a thick layer of crystals. It was very obvious. This is from: http://www.baylorcme.org/renal/presentations/brewer/presentation_text.html Urinalysis: Turbidity Now it's also important to look at the turbidity of the urine. When you have a cloudy urine, you can have all kinds of things. It could be bacteria. It could be leukocytes. Or it could just be crystals. As I said before, urine that's in the refrigerator may turn cloudy because of the precipitation of crystals. If that's the case, recentrifuging the urine, acidifying it, or rewarming it to room temperature will clear the urine. It will not clear a urine full of white cells and bacteria. When there are crystals, most of the time it's the amorphous crystals that precipitate out and give this cloudy color. And if it's an alkaline urine, that's going to be phosphates. Or if it's an acid urine, it's going to be urates. A hazy urine often is one that has a lot of mucus in it. And the mucus can be from vaginal secretions. It can be from mucus threads in the urine. We see a variety of children who have bladder augmentations with intestinal cells that produce mucus, and we can see a thick mucus plugs in those urine. It's rare for us to see a milky urine, but if there are a lot of fat globules in the urine, you will see a milky color. And that's probably only going to be seen in our population in someone with very severe nephrotic syndrome that's uncontrolled, and they have a high cholesterol and a lot of oval fat bodies in their urine. The most common thing we see is the smoky colored urine. It's usually red-brown, and it's full of red blood cells. At 01:16 PM 1/11/2009, you wrote: >Our younger son has had cloudy urine for the past week. He has been on >antifungals, but other than that, there have not been any changes. > >Can someone remind me what the possible causes are for cloudy urine? > >Thanks, L > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks Dr McCandless and , He is not uncomfortable and no other signs like elevated temps (never had a UTI either). We'll wait it out. Thanks, L From: csb-autism-rx [mailto:csb-autism-rx ] On Behalf Of JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 2:14 PM To: csb-autism-rx Subject: Re: Re: cloudy urine? I agree a urinary infection always needs to be considered, but there are many benign causes of cloudy urine, mostly from foods or some medicines. Why don't you wait until after the anti-fungals and see if it clears up? That is, unless he is uncomfortable, urine smells very strong, has urgency or pain etc. - even dehydration can cause it, so push fluids if possible. DrJM From: adoptinggrace <mbwis_2y6@... <mailto:mbwis_2y6%40bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: cloudy urine? To: csb-autism-rx <mailto:csb-autism-rx%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 8:40 AM ... you might check on UTI.. I'm sure there are other things too but this is what it means at our house. Best Wishes, > > Our younger son has had cloudy urine for the past week. He has been on > antifungals, but other than that, there have not been any changes. > > > > Can someone remind me what the possible causes are for cloudy urine? > > > > Thanks, L > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 , You are probably right. We thought it might be bacteria, but we forgot that we made a change in the diet and added in butternut chips to fill some slots. The change was subtle at first with cloudy urine, but symptoms have piled up. His primary symptoms beyond the cloudy urine have been: rubbing his eyes, pinching his legs, hands, and forehead, and general irritation. Other than removing the chips, what would you recommend to help. You can type me offline if you wish at jjleon1@... L PS He is one that could not handle VSL#3 because if the lactose. From: csb-autism-rx [mailto:csb-autism-rx ] On Behalf Of Owens Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:16 PM To: csb-autism-rx Subject: Re: cloudy urine? , If it is oxalates, it should precipitate out. If you have a microscope you can compare the crystals to pictures of the different types of crystals. I have a picture I could send you of how when one child was dumping the crystals settled out in a test tube leaving a thick layer of crystals. It was very obvious. This is from: http://www.baylorcme.org/renal/presentations/brewer/presentation_text.html Urinalysis: Turbidity Now it's also important to look at the turbidity of the urine. When you have a cloudy urine, you can have all kinds of things. It could be bacteria. It could be leukocytes. Or it could just be crystals. As I said before, urine that's in the refrigerator may turn cloudy because of the precipitation of crystals. If that's the case, recentrifuging the urine, acidifying it, or rewarming it to room temperature will clear the urine. It will not clear a urine full of white cells and bacteria. When there are crystals, most of the time it's the amorphous crystals that precipitate out and give this cloudy color. And if it's an alkaline urine, that's going to be phosphates. Or if it's an acid urine, it's going to be urates. A hazy urine often is one that has a lot of mucus in it. And the mucus can be from vaginal secretions. It can be from mucus threads in the urine. We see a variety of children who have bladder augmentations with intestinal cells that produce mucus, and we can see a thick mucus plugs in those urine. It's rare for us to see a milky urine, but if there are a lot of fat globules in the urine, you will see a milky color. And that's probably only going to be seen in our population in someone with very severe nephrotic syndrome that's uncontrolled, and they have a high cholesterol and a lot of oval fat bodies in their urine. The most common thing we see is the smoky colored urine. It's usually red-brown, and it's full of red blood cells. At 01:16 PM 1/11/2009, you wrote: >Our younger son has had cloudy urine for the past week. He has been on >antifungals, but other than that, there have not been any changes. > >Can someone remind me what the possible causes are for cloudy urine? > >Thanks, L > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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