Re: a Coon -- Bill Re: 8 am appt for food stamps

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Whoa! $25.00 an hour?! I know a lot of folks in the same job and type of job who would love for their wages to be modeled after Michigan's! LOLOL I'm curious... the food "give-aways" that are only a few times a year a year there... what exactly are they and where are they through? I know there are so many different programs and am curious. I remember one DES office, in particular, who had a mess of donations to hand out right about Christmas time. But I'm not sure if it was the only time they did that or just the biggest time of year for such donations, or what. (Mom? Do you remember?) Of course, there are many other federally funded programs for food boxes and so on, but I'm thinking you might mean specifically through the DES office?? The one [food box program] I worked was bi-weekly to monthly and it wasn't at a DES office, it was at a

county office... Actually, pretty much our county's central gathering place for meetings and so forth. LOL Though predominantly for the Health Department, many others used the greater meeting room (formerly used by the court). The County Supervisor held an office there, though not the main office. Conciliation Services was permanently located in the building. Then the Health Department had one of the Nursing offices there (exams, vaccines, etc., as well as a "main station" for head nurse of the county). Also, and greatly, the Nutrition offices. And then Arizona's form of Medicaid had one of their county offices in that building. The area's county office for Food Stamps, AFDC (each area throughout each of the counties has their own -- and the areas covered can be very large lol) was down the way a bit, but they kept the "Medicaid" office in that building. Here it's AHCCCS, said

"Access" (Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System), and we just never use the term "Medicaid" out here. LOL I'd imagine a worker "could" be arrested no matter their wage, depending on the what's and why's of the taking. But, golly gosh, sure am glad that didn't apply to Bill's Mom. Several "friends" of our family have been or are case workers and make no where near that wage. LOLOL Many are at or near poverty level. Mom wasn't a case worker, but I'd probably not be amused by references to arrest and my Mother. LOL Challis paula coon wrote: In this part the federal food give-aways are only a few times a year and aren't always cans of pork and blocks of cheese. It's often a combination of different foods and the amount you get depends on the number in your household. You have to show proof that you are low income to receive it too. If someone who works for the welfare dept here took any of the food (cheese or otherwise) they could be arrested for fraud because they workers are paid way too much to be anywhere the poverty level. A friend of mine is a case worker there and she makes over $25 per hour. a .......... in Michigancoming soon - Farm Fresh Soaps and Candles.com !!! Bill, I don't think they do give out cheese anymore. I wasn't told about it. I'd take free cheese....yum! ShirlsMS-Bill <wj.foulkeinsightbb> wrote: My mother retired from the Walfare department in Noblesville, IN maybe she spoke to you at one time. She use to bring home some of the walfare cheese they gave to people. Do you know if they still do that? I am not a big fan of cheese. Bill __________________________________________________

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Yes, Challis, I do remember the big food giveaway at my office (CPS) at Christmas. It was actually donations given to our office for our many client families. Local organizations did a Christmas Food Drive and brought us truck loads of food as well as new clothes, toys, blankets, etc. Our conference room was piled high with the donations and we gave boxes of food and gifts to each of our client families or local families in need. We had a small store of food and clothes throughout the year in our store room for families in immediate need, as well. I spent several Christmas Eves staying late at the office so I could give out toys/food to any family that needed it. The word spread in the community and many people would come for assistance. For many of the kids in the

community the toys we gave their parents were the only gifts they got. It was such a good feeling to give out those items and I never minded staying late to do so. Starting wage for the caseworkers (CPS social workers) was around $20,000 although I did have several friends who were caseworkers who made over $30K. One who had been employed by the state for many years made $35K. These are people who have at least a 4 year degree in social work or psychology. Arizona isn't known for high wages to put it mildly. We also gave out food/toys to the clerks from the food stamp/welfare office because we knew they couldn't afford to go out and buy the things themselves. As I said, those clerks were close to the minimum wage and all qualified themselves for food stamps. That's an embarrassment for our state. hugs)))Sharon I was trying to daydream, but my mind kept wandering. Re: a Coon -- Bill Re: 8 am appt for food stamps

Whoa! $25.00 an hour?! I know a lot of folks in the same job and type of job who would love for their wages to be modeled after Michigan's! LOLOL I'm curious... the food "give-aways" that are only a few times a year a year there... what exactly are they and where are they through? I know there are so many different programs and am curious. I remember one DES office, in particular, who had a mess of donations to hand out right about Christmas time. But I'm not sure if it was the only time they did that or just the biggest time of year for such donations, or what. (Mom? Do you remember?) Of course, there are many other federally funded programs for food boxes and so on, but I'm thinking you might mean specifically through the DES office?? The one [food box program] I worked was bi-weekly to monthly and it wasn't at a DES

office, it was at a

county office... Actually, pretty much our county's central gathering place for meetings and so forth. LOL Though predominantly for the Health Department, many others used the greater meeting room (formerly used by the court). The County Supervisor held an office there, though not the main office. Conciliation Services was permanently located in the building. Then the Health Department had one of the Nursing offices there (exams, vaccines, etc., as well as a "main station" for head nurse of the county). Also, and greatly, the Nutrition offices. And then Arizona's form of Medicaid had one of their county offices in that building. The area's county office for Food Stamps, AFDC (each area throughout each of the counties has their own -- and the areas covered can be very large lol) was down the way a bit, but they kept the "Medicaid" office in that building. Here it's AHCCCS, said

"Access" (Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System), and we just never use the term "Medicaid" out here. LOL I'd imagine a worker "could" be arrested no matter their wage, depending on the what's and why's of the taking. But, golly gosh, sure am glad that didn't apply to Bill's Mom. Several "friends" of our family have been or are case workers and make no where near that wage. LOLOL Many are at or near poverty level. Mom wasn't a case worker, but I'd probably not be amused by references to arrest and my Mother. LOL Challis paula coon <paulacoon@earthlink .net> wrote: In this part the federal food give-aways are only a few

times a year and aren't always cans of pork and blocks of cheese. It's often a combination of different foods and the amount you get depends on the number in your household. You have to show proof that you are low income to receive it too. If someone who works for the welfare dept here took any of the food (cheese or otherwise) they could be arrested for fraud because they workers are paid way too much to be anywhere the poverty level. A friend of mine is a case worker there and she makes over $25 per hour. a .......... in Michigancoming soon - Farm Fresh Soaps and Candles.com !!! Bill, I don't think they do give out cheese anymore. I wasn't told about it. I'd take free cheese....yum! ShirlsMS-Bill <wj.foulke@insightbb .com> wrote: My mother retired from the Walfare department in Noblesville, IN maybe she spoke to you at one time. She use to bring home some of the walfare cheese they gave to people. Do you know if they still do that? I am not a big fan of cheese. Bill ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

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you have to remember that Michigan, especially lower Michigan is home to many automakers/factories and are paid UAW union wages. Many factory jobs started at $15/hr or more. If you are a skilled trades worker/journeyman card holder you start at nearly $30/hr. Now that there is so much change in the auto world (factories being sold or closing), the next contracts will have lower starting wages and a cap on raises. My cousin's husband retired as an electrician a few months ago and he was making $45/hr. My brother-in-law was willing to work on Christmas - holiday pay for UAW workers is triple their normal pay rate. He was paid over $100 an hour to work on Christmas day (he makes $38/hour). I worked as a file clerk at the local welfare/ Department of Social Services office in 1982 and I started out at $18/hour

Rent for a 1 bedroom apartment in this area starts at over $500 a month plus utilities. My daughter lives in the worst part of town and pays $675 a month for a 2 bedroom house plus all utilities - heat, electric, water and garbage pick up.

The surplus food is thru the US government - it's a federal program. We also have local food closets (church sponsored) that give out bags or boxes of groceries but you have to show proof that you are low income, proof of number of family members, and have photo ID too.

At holiday time, the Salvation Army and Toys for Tots are the only large programs. Different churches, schools, etc either 'adopt' families they know of or get names from the Salvation Army. But that is only at Christmas time

a .......... in Michigancoming in January - Farm Fresh Soaps and Candles.com !!!

Whoa! $25.00 an hour?! I know a lot of folks in the same job and type of job who would love for their wages to be modeled after Michigan's! LOLOL

I'm curious... the food "give-aways" that are only a few times a year a year there... what exactly are they and where are they through? I know there are so many different programs and am curious. I remember one DES office, in particular, who had a mess of donations to hand out right about Christmas time. But I'm not sure if it was the only time they did that or just the biggest time of year for such donations, or what. (Mom? Do you remember?) Of course, there are many other federally funded programs for food boxes and so on, but I'm thinking you might mean specifically through the DES office??

The one [food box program] I worked was bi-weekly to monthly and it wasn't at a DES office, it was at a county office... Actually, pretty much our county's central gathering place for meetings and so forth. LOL Though predominantly for the Health Department, many others used the greater meeting room (formerly used by the court). The County Supervisor held an office there, though not the main office. Conciliation Services was permanently located in the building. Then the Health Department had one of the Nursing offices there (exams, vaccines, etc., as well as a "main station" for head nurse of the county). Also, and greatly, the Nutrition offices. And then Arizona's form of Medicaid had one of their county offices in that building. The area's county office for Food Stamps, AFDC (each area throughout each of the counties has their own -- and the areas covered can be very large lol) was down the way a bit, but they kept the "Medicaid" office in that building. Here it's AHCCCS, said "Access" (Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System), and we just never use the term "Medicaid" out here. LOL

I'd imagine a worker "could" be arrested no matter their wage, depending on the what's and why's of the taking. But, golly gosh, sure am glad that didn't apply to Bill's Mom.

Several "friends" of our family have been or are case workers and make no where near that wage. LOLOL Many are at or near poverty level. Mom wasn't a case worker, but I'd probably not be amused by references to arrest and my Mother. LOL

Challis