Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 > > dear catherine, > i have one more philosophical question please. i hope you don't mind > as you answered my other one so beautifully. my (very optimistic) > husband always tells me that guided imagry and having a positive > attitude helps the body and brain heal faster. he always tells me > stories he hears of people who have cancer and other stuff who cure > themself even without conventional medicine thru their mind. my > question for you is, how can thinking positively help a person in > withdrawal heal faster? it just seems like such a unscientical notion. > how can a rationally minded person conceive of such a notion. it makes > no sense to me how the brain and body can heal just by thinking > certain thoughts. i would like to understand this concept better and > try to work at it if it can help my recover. others might also be > interested. thank you very much.>> ** That's an easy one! There's no separation between mind and body. Take, for example, if a person feels depressed. The origin of it doesn't matter; both the mind and body suffer. Every thought influences your chemistry. Think about people you know. Who do you know that has a negative attitude --that believes things are " unfair " , tragic, and life is just a whole lot of work. These people are going to look older, have more health problems, and go through life relatively emotionally alone because no one wants that energy around them. People highly practiced in meditation can slow their breathing and need for oxygen down to where you and I would pass out. This is altering the chemistry through belief and practice. Science is extremely limited in what it knows. It only wants to measure everything. That which it can't measure (most of what we are) gets dismissed as being invalid or non-existent. I'm reminded here of when science decoded two strands of the 12 strand DNA we have. They said the other 10 strands were " junk " . Mind you, they didn't decode them, they merely dismissed them because they couldn't decode them. Several years later -- oops! Science reports decoding a THIRD strand of DNA " but the other 9 are junk. " A short time after that, the 4th strand of useful DNA was revealed. Did science learn anything from this? No, they didn't. " The other 8 strands of DNA are junk, " they say. Try listening for a full day to people who think life is unfair, hate most things about their life, and don't hesitate to tell you this. How do you feel at the end of the day? Dr. Lee Berk and fellow researcher Dr. Stanley Tan of Loma University in California have been studying the effects of laughter on the immune system. To date their published studies have shown that laughing lowers blood pressure, reduces stress hormones, increases muscle flexion, and boosts immune function by raising levels of infection-fighting T-cells, disease-fighting proteins called Gamma- interferon and B-cells, which produce disease-destroying antibodies. Laughter also triggers the release of endorphins, the body's natural painkillers, and produces a general sense of well-being. Even the American Academy of Family Physicians recognizes the mind- body connection. http://familydoctor.org/782.xml Science doesn't recognize people who are " mediums " or " psychics " . Yet, if you've ever attended a Message Service at a Spiritualist Retreat you would see 150 people in the audience and several mediums come up one at a time and point people out and deliver to them a message from beyond the Earth plane. Now, those woh want to discredit this say that these people who are pointed out are planted in the audience. This is not true. I've had two personal experiences in this setting. In one, my partner's son was singled out and told that his great grandmother would be tesching him in his sleep about herbal medicine. No one there had met this child and his home was a few hundred miles away. Indeed, his great grandmother, who had died within the past year, was an herbalist. Science would tell you this is not possible. One's beliefs govern the energy one attracts. Wayne Dyer writes of just this: -- The Power of Intention by Wayne W. Dyer Some wonderful books on the mind-body connection are written by Deepak Chopra. I would highly recommend reading some of his books. -- Ageless Body, Timeless Mind : The Quantum Alternative to Growing Old -- The Path to Love : Spiritual Strategies for Healing -- Perfect Health: The Complete Mind/Body Guide, Revised and Updated Edition Another helpful book: -- Excuse Me, Your Life Is Waiting: The Astonishing Power of Feelings (Paperback) by Lynn Grabhorn An article: Chronic Stress Can Interfere with Normal Function of the Immune System May Increase Susceptibility To Inflammatory Diseases Such As Allergic, Autoimmune Or Cardiovascular Diseases WASHINGTON -- Chronic stress not only makes people more vulnerable to catching illnesses but can also impair their immune system's ability to respond to its own anti-inflammatory signals that are triggered by certain hormones, say researchers, possibly altering the course of an inflammatory disease. This finding is reported on in the November issue of Health Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA). Chronic stress seems to impair the immune system's capacity to respond to glucocorticoid hormones that normally are responsible for terminating an inflammatory response following infection and/or injury, according to researchers E. , Ph.D., of Washington University and colleagues. To examine what happens to people's immune systems during on-going stressful situations, the researchers compared 25 healthy parents with children undergoing treatment for pediatric cancer with 25 healthy parents with healthy children on measures of mental health, effects of social support and certain immune system responses. All the parents had blood drawn at the initial session and salivary cortisol samples taken at intermittent times over two days. Parents of cancer parents reported more psychological distress than parents with healthy children, according to the study. The parents of cancer patients also were found to have diminished glucocorticoid sensitivity compared to parents of medically healthy children. This hormone is responsible for turning off the in vitro production of the pro-inflammatory cytokines interleukin-1B, interleukin-6 and tumor necrosis factor, said Dr. . The good news found by the researchers was that social support lessened the immunologic consequences of caring for a child with cancer, perhaps by helping the parents deal with the economic, work and family disruptions caused by the disease and its treatment. " These findings suggest a novel mechanism through which psychological stress could influence the onset and/or progression of conditions that involve excessive inflammation, like allergic, autoimmune, cardiovascular, infectious and rheumatologic illnesses, " Dr. . But even though the cancer patient parents reported more depressive symptoms, depression does not seem to operate as a mediator. It may be that anxiety, intrusive thoughts, feelings of helplessness or lack of sleep may be influencing the stress-related reductions in glucocorticoid sensitivity. Article: " Chronic Psychological Stress and the Regulation of Pro- Inflammatory Cytokines: A Glucocorticoid-Resistance Model, " E. , Ph.D., Washington University; Sheldon Cohen, Ph.D., Carnegie Mellon University; A. Kim Ritchey, M.D., Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh; Health Psychology, Vol 21, No. 6. Full text of the article is available from at http://www.apa.org/journals/hea/press_releases/november_2002/hea216531 ..html Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 WOW, you are amazing! It is so true, surround yourself by people that moan and think that the world is unjust and owes them something............I feel exhausted by such people!! Thanks for the book titles , I'm going to check them out. Love ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 catherine--- this is related so..... i started using the relaxation tapes from my anxiety and depression program a month ago as well as started going through the lessons again. there was probably no way i was going to be able to stop beating myself up and being unhealthy towards myself in my condition without it. i need throughly guided assistance. its too bad it took me so long to start this, but i was so angry. if anyone cant just motivate themselves or are dealing with obesessing, anxious, neg. personality you are probably going to need to get something like this. these drugs can make life so difficult that you need to be there for yourself 100 percent. i just about to totally cut out processed foods, im starting to sleep better, and handle the stress of family, friends, etc.... which is hard because im still sensitive from paxil. i also have cut down watching tv among other things. i havent had a panic attack in about a week, which is something i have had since i can remember. probably 6 or 7 a day. do you still think i can heal as well as before? or how does the fact that i put so much strain on my brain for three years effect me? with all that good. its still hard to do the program because im not all there. i forget to do things and miss days im suppose to do things. its also frustrating because it worked so well when i did it about 5 years ago before i stopped because of a bad incident for me. i dont get those same feelings. jason > > WOW, you are amazing! > It is so true, surround yourself by people that moan and think that > the world is unjust and owes them something............I feel > exhausted by such people!! > Thanks for the book titles , I'm going to check them out. > Love ya > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Dear , You said: > i started using the relaxation tapes from my anxiety and depression > program a month ago as well as started going through the lessons again. > there was probably no way i was going to be able to stop beating > myself up and being unhealthy towards myself in my condition without > it. i need throughly guided assistance. its too bad it took me so > long to start this, but i was so angry. if anyone cant just motivate > themselves or are dealing with obesessing, anxious, neg. personality > you are probably going to need to get something like this. these > drugs can make life so difficult that you need to be there for > yourself 100 percent. > > i just about to totally cut out processed foods, im starting to sleep > better, and handle the stress of family, friends, etc.... which is > hard because im still sensitive from paxil. i also have cut down > watching tv among other things. i havent had a panic attack in about > a week, which is something i have had since i can remember. probably > 6 or 7 a day. > > do you still think i can heal as well as before? or how does the fact > that i put so much strain on my brain for three years effect me?>> ** You'd better hope not. From what you've told me you've had problems as far back as you can recall. No one ever goes back to how they were before. This is because time goes on and we all change. You can't go back to where you were before becauae you were years younger. Stop worrying about that. Where you were before got you taking psychotropic drugs. Are you sure you want to go back there? > with all that good. its still hard to do the program because im not > all there. i forget to do things and miss days im suppose to do > things. its also frustrating because it worked so well when i did it > about 5 years ago before i stopped because of a bad incident for me. > i dont get those same feelings.>> ** Give it time. -- Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 i do want to go back to where i was in regards to capabilities-- memory, feelings, sensitivity level, etc.... i always had problems with anxiety since i can remember. but, i was functional and now i deal with things in a more productive way because im not so caught up on being perfect, having everyone like me, worried about every thought or thing i do, etc..... i think everybody becomes better at these things as they get older like you said. it hurts with the feelings not being there with the program. but, there are little moments that give me hope and then i become more optomistic. which, you need to be for the program to work. i also have to try and concentrate. i lose focus so easily. i know others have talked about this as well. i will being doing a good job and then i will play 2 hours of video games or eat a big bowl of ice cream and afterwards go why did i do that. it is still weird for me to be this way because i was such a focused person before. i also want to restate that it is important for anyone dealing with issues of self-esteem, anxiety, etc.. to deal with those issues now and not wait until you feel better if you have been effected neg. by the drugs. you wont be strong enough or competent enough to do that. and will make poor decision because your brain is screwed up and if you were like me are in a ton of pain. jason > > Dear , > > > > You said: > > > > i started using the relaxation tapes from my anxiety and depression > > program a month ago as well as started going through the lessons again. > > there was probably no way i was going to be able to stop beating > > myself up and being unhealthy towards myself in my condition without > > it. i need throughly guided assistance. its too bad it took me so > > long to start this, but i was so angry. if anyone cant just motivate > > themselves or are dealing with obesessing, anxious, neg. personality > > you are probably going to need to get something like this. these > > drugs can make life so difficult that you need to be there for > > yourself 100 percent. > > > > i just about to totally cut out processed foods, im starting to sleep > > better, and handle the stress of family, friends, etc.... which is > > hard because im still sensitive from paxil. i also have cut down > > watching tv among other things. i havent had a panic attack in about > > a week, which is something i have had since i can remember. probably > > 6 or 7 a day. > > > > do you still think i can heal as well as before? or how does the fact > > that i put so much strain on my brain for three years effect me? >> > > > ** You'd better hope not. From what you've told me you've had > problems as far back as you can recall. No one ever goes back to how > they were before. This is because time goes on and we all change. > You can't go back to where you were before becauae you were years > younger. Stop worrying about that. Where you were before got you > taking psychotropic drugs. Are you sure you want to go back there? > > > with all that good. its still hard to do the program because im not > > all there. i forget to do things and miss days im suppose to do > > things. its also frustrating because it worked so well when i did it > > about 5 years ago before i stopped because of a bad incident for me. > > i dont get those same feelings.>> > > ** Give it time. > -- > Regards, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 also, catherine have you seen this before with the withdrawl where someone couldnt pull themselves together or do most of things you suggested for a long time like did? it took me a while- almost 3 years or until i felt somewhat decent. jason > > Dear , > > > > You said: > > > > i started using the relaxation tapes from my anxiety and depression > > program a month ago as well as started going through the lessons again. > > there was probably no way i was going to be able to stop beating > > myself up and being unhealthy towards myself in my condition without > > it. i need throughly guided assistance. its too bad it took me so > > long to start this, but i was so angry. if anyone cant just motivate > > themselves or are dealing with obesessing, anxious, neg. personality > > you are probably going to need to get something like this. these > > drugs can make life so difficult that you need to be there for > > yourself 100 percent. > > > > i just about to totally cut out processed foods, im starting to sleep > > better, and handle the stress of family, friends, etc.... which is > > hard because im still sensitive from paxil. i also have cut down > > watching tv among other things. i havent had a panic attack in about > > a week, which is something i have had since i can remember. probably > > 6 or 7 a day. > > > > do you still think i can heal as well as before? or how does the fact > > that i put so much strain on my brain for three years effect me? >> > > > ** You'd better hope not. From what you've told me you've had > problems as far back as you can recall. No one ever goes back to how > they were before. This is because time goes on and we all change. > You can't go back to where you were before becauae you were years > younger. Stop worrying about that. Where you were before got you > taking psychotropic drugs. Are you sure you want to go back there? > > > with all that good. its still hard to do the program because im not > > all there. i forget to do things and miss days im suppose to do > > things. its also frustrating because it worked so well when i did it > > about 5 years ago before i stopped because of a bad incident for me. > > i dont get those same feelings.>> > > ** Give it time. > -- > Regards, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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