Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 In a message dated 12/27/01 4:01:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, Penny writes: > My dh is the same way. Sometimes he forgets (intentionally or > unintentionally) that the things Jacqui does are because she's autistic. > It's a very fine line. > > You know, I don't know how to move to that understanding that they really don't have control over that rudeness. Only in the last couple of years have I finally gained that understanding and now have more patience for her than ever. Time is what does it. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2001 Report Share Posted December 29, 2001 You know, I don't know how to move to that understanding that they really don't have control over that rudeness. Only in the last couple of years have I finally gained that understanding and now have more patience for her than ever. Time is what does it. Barb Barb- I try to look at it as a communication issue. It's a pretty straight forward, blunt way of communicating. And since our kids have a difficult time picking up on " social cues " , they don't realize they are being rude. Of course, that doesn't mean I don't try to alter the behavior. We have been making Jacqui say " Please " and " Thank You " forever (thereby always getting the " she's SOOOOO polite " line from everyone), and when she does something that we feel is rude, we tell her " That's rude " and somehow she associates " rude " with " bad " and sometimes it works.... So, yes, we try to teach her the social graces, but only by understanding first they she isn't aware of them. Penny :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2001 Report Share Posted December 29, 2001 > Of course, that doesn't mean I don't try to alter the behavior. We have > been making Jacqui say " Please " and " Thank You " forever (thereby always > getting the " she's SOOOOO polite " line from everyone), and when she does > something that we feel is rude, we tell her " That's rude " and somehow she > associates " rude " with " bad " and sometimes it works.... One of the things that I like about ABA is that they teach them the automatic " Please, " and " Thank you " stuff. Putter always says, " Yes, please, " and " Thank you, " and " No thank you, " although " No thank you, " is pronounced " Nobaku " which looks vaguely Japanese and which he has taught to Robbie who has reduced it even further to " No kyu. " But still it does make him LOOK polite. Even though we know he really isn't. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 In a message dated 12/29/01 9:12:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, Penny writes: > when she does > something that we feel is rude, we tell her " That's rude " and somehow she > associates " rude " with " bad " and sometimes it works.... > > Yeah, it does. I wonder why? Shame, maybe? Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 In a message dated 12/29/01 12:39:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, Salli writes: > One of the things that I like about ABA is that they teach them the > automatic " Please, " and " Thank you " stuff. > What does ABA mean? Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 > What does ABA mean? ABA means applied behavior analysis. It is behavior modification essentially but for kids with autism they break down each normal task into tiny components and teach it bit by bit. Putter's school has one on one tutors for all the students in the DTT classroom (DTT is discrete trial training, another word for ABA); they work in black painted booths to reduce the distractions. Ivor Lovaas who is kind of the father of ABA published a study that seemed to indicate that " recovery " was popular for about half the kids with autism, although a closer study look shows that it wasn't so much recovery as functioning quite well. Maurice popularized ABA in her book Let Me Hear Your Voice which is about how ABA did, apparently, recover her two small children from autism. Her children were VERY young which may explain the results that she got (they both lost the dx). ABA is very expensive because it is very labor intensive (must be one on one at least at first and at least with more severe forms of autism; less severe forms of autism probably don't need ABA anyway) so to run a home program is estimated to cost about $20,000 to $60,000 a year but a school system can do it cheaper. Putter's school can afford it because 1) they got sued big time and were forced to pay for home programs for parents of kids with autism and 2) the university has an excellent behavioral psychology program that they hire tutors from as part of the tutors education. Hope this helps. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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