Re: progesterone & bleeding-statins

[Guest guest]

Is there anything definitive that I can give to my hubby who swears by statins

to read? I'm very concerned about this.

Linn wrote: I agree with the WAP info

about cholesterol. Not something we should

be screwing around with. There are many people with all kinds of

damage done to their bodies from taking statins. Again, big pharma

leading the way. Did you know that they lowered what used to be

considered normal for both blood pressure and cholesterol? Opened up

a whole new consumer market.

Linn

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> >

> > I wonder why your " good " cholesterol was better when

> > you were on thyroid meds? What's the connection there

> > between the two?

> >

> I'm not sure about the exact connection, except to say that high

> cholesterol (bad & triglycerides) is indicative of disease, and it's

> common with undiagnosed thyroid. Once on thyroid meds, all of my

> cholesterols righted themselves without diet change. I would say that

> they're slightly off right now because I'm hypo again, although on

> meds.

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/11/eveningnews/main648685.shtml

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/statinalert/

http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/article/3073/statins-side-effects.html

Just do a Google search for Statins and side effects.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Go to this site http://www.spacedoc.net/index.html . Scroll down and

there is a lot of information on Statin Drugs!

Re: Re: progesterone & bleeding-statins

Is there anything definitive that I can give to my hubby who swears by

statins to read? I'm very concerned about this.

Linn wrote: I agree with the WAP

info about cholesterol. Not something we should

be screwing around with. There are many people with all kinds of

damage done to their bodies from taking statins. Again, big pharma

leading the way. Did you know that they lowered what used to be

considered normal for both blood pressure and cholesterol? Opened up

a whole new consumer market.

Linn

>

> >

> > I wonder why your " good " cholesterol was better when

> > you were on thyroid meds? What's the connection there

> > between the two?

> >

> I'm not sure about the exact connection, except to say that high

> cholesterol (bad & triglycerides) is indicative of disease, and it's

> common with undiagnosed thyroid. Once on thyroid meds, all of my

> cholesterols righted themselves without diet change. I would say that

> they're slightly off right now because I'm hypo again, although on

> meds.

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks much...I need to look up the high cholesterol myth. My husband's been

brain-washed and now that I'm aware of how dangerous statins are, I'm worried

about him.

wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/11/eveningnews/main648685.shtml

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/statinalert/

http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/article/3073/statins-side-effects.html

Just do a Google search for Statins and side effects.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!)

http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

This is a great reference...a NASA doc is someone my hubby would consider an

okay source.

Thank you,

bfsmo wrote: Go to this site

http://www.spacedoc.net/index.html . Scroll down and

there is a lot of information on Statin Drugs!

Re: Re: progesterone & bleeding-statins

Is there anything definitive that I can give to my hubby who swears by

statins to read? I'm very concerned about this.

Linn

wrote: I agree with the WAP

info about cholesterol. Not something we should

be screwing around with. There are many people with all kinds of

damage done to their bodies from taking statins. Again, big pharma

leading the way. Did you know that they lowered what used to be

considered normal for both blood pressure and cholesterol? Opened up

a whole new consumer market.

Linn

>

> >

> > I wonder why your " good " cholesterol was better when

> > you were on thyroid meds? What's the connection there

> > between the two?

> >

> I'm not sure about the exact connection, except to say that high

> cholesterol (bad & triglycerides) is indicative of disease, and it's

> common with undiagnosed thyroid. Once on thyroid meds, all of my

> cholesterols righted themselves without diet change. I would say that

> they're slightly off right now because I'm hypo again, although on

> meds.

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Glad it helps. Sure makes you think twice about statins!!!

Beebe

Re: Re: progesterone & bleeding-statins

Is there anything definitive that I can give to my hubby who swears by

statins to read? I'm very concerned about this.

Linn

wrote: I agree with the WAP

info about cholesterol. Not something we should

be screwing around with. There are many people with all kinds of

damage done to their bodies from taking statins. Again, big pharma

leading the way. Did you know that they lowered what used to be

considered normal for both blood pressure and cholesterol? Opened up

a whole new consumer market.

Linn

>

> >

> > I wonder why your " good " cholesterol was better when

> > you were on thyroid meds? What's the connection there

> > between the two?

> >

> I'm not sure about the exact connection, except to say that high

> cholesterol (bad & triglycerides) is indicative of disease, and it's

> common with undiagnosed thyroid. Once on thyroid meds, all of my

> cholesterols righted themselves without diet change. I would say that

> they're slightly off right now because I'm hypo again, although on

> meds.

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

, that's funny that your husband is so committed to his

statins. My hubby had a horrible reaction to Lipitor. His muscles

were so sore within about 48 hours of his first dose that he

couldn't move. He quit taking it, and it resolved right away. That

experience about scared him away from doctors and medications in

general. He rarely takes any medications anymore and is very

distrustful of doctors.

Good luck with your hubby.

Amy

> > >

> > > I wonder why your " good " cholesterol was better when

> > > you were on thyroid meds? What's the connection there

> > > between the two?

> > >

> > I'm not sure about the exact connection, except to say that high

> > cholesterol (bad & triglycerides) is indicative of disease, and

it's

> > common with undiagnosed thyroid. Once on thyroid meds, all of my

> > cholesterols righted themselves without diet change. I would say

that

> > they're slightly off right now because I'm hypo again, although

on

> > meds.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amy,

I almost wish my hubby would have a negative side effect from taking Lipitor.

But he doesn't and it does bring down his cholesterol.

He has classic signs of thyroid issues. One day maybe he will be willing to do

a saliva test. But his beliefs in doctors would like prohibit self treatment.

I always laugh when on other message board members are advised to do this and

that, discuss this and that with a medical professional. I've been down that

road far to many times. That's not saying that I am totally comfortable with

self treatment...it's just the only way I am able to keep on living.

anewkirk30 wrote: , that's funny that your husband

is so committed to his

statins. My hubby had a horrible reaction to Lipitor. His muscles

were so sore within about 48 hours of his first dose that he

couldn't move. He quit taking it, and it resolved right away. That

experience about scared him away from doctors and medications in

general. He rarely takes any medications anymore and is very

distrustful of doctors.

Good luck with your hubby.

Amy

> > >

> > > I wonder why your " good " cholesterol was better when

> > > you were on thyroid meds? What's the connection there

> > > between the two?

> > >

> > I'm not sure about the exact connection, except to say that high

> > cholesterol (bad & triglycerides) is indicative of disease, and

it's

> > common with undiagnosed thyroid. Once on thyroid meds, all of my

> > cholesterols righted themselves without diet change. I would say

that

> > they're slightly off right now because I'm hypo again, although

on

> > meds.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tip of the iceburg - lots more out there if you look. Also included

some of the natural options for reducing cholesterol. Niacin is very

effective for those that can't accomplish enough improvements thru

improved diet & exercise.

Carcinogenicity of lipid-lowering drugs - NIH PubMed

http://tinyurl.com/62w6c

The clinical use of HMG CoA-reductase inhibitors and the associated

depletion of coenzyme Q10.

http://tinyurl.com/ybzltw

Atorvastatin decreases the coenzyme Q10 level in the blood of

patients at risk for cardiovascular disease and stroke - NIH PubMed

http://tinyurl.com/ycs232

Statins lower plasma and lymphocyte ubiquinol/ubiquinone (CoQ10) NIH

PubMed

http://tinyurl.com/ycb6e4

Lovastatin decreases coenzyme Q levels in humans - NIH PubMed

http://tinyurl.com/yhrlb3

Statin therapy induces ultrastructural damage in skeletal muscle in

patients without myalgia. NIH PubMed

http://tinyurl.com/yjdq3z

HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors (statins) might cause high elevations

of creatine phosphokinase (CK) in patients with unnoticed

hypothyroidism.

http://tinyurl.com/ylmzg2

******We must not begin and continue to use these drugs without

checking the possibility of hypothyroidism.***** !!!!

Statin Side Effects

http://www.healthy-heart-guide.com/statin-side-effects.html

Cholesterol: A Personal Viewpoint

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1996/articles/1996-v11n04-

p223.shtml

Introduction of Niacin as the First Successful Treatment for

Cholesterol Control, A Reminiscence

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2000/articles/2000-v15n03-

p121.shtml

Niacin and Cholesterol: The History of a Discovery

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2000/articles/2000-v15n03-

p115.shtml

Niacin, Coronary Disease and Longevity

http://www.alternativehealth.co.nz/vitamins/niacin.htm

Adding Niacin to Statins Improves Results - NIH PubMed

http://tinyurl.com/sknkl

Sesame Seeds Can Lower Cholesterol

http://www.bastyrcenter.org/content/view/939/

Lower Cholesterol: Eat More Barley

http://www.numarkpharmacists.com/nw04/lower_chol_eat_barley270105.htm

How to lower your cholesterol absolutely free (no prescription

required)

http://www.newstarget.com/001546.html

Adverse Side Effects From Long Term Use of Statin Drugs..Statin Side

Effects Studies

http://www.y2khealthanddetox.com/truthchol.html#statinstudies

Supplement Recommendations for High Cholesterol

http://tinyurl.com/vyzcz

Cut cholesterol with policosanol: this supplement worked better than

a low-fat diet in one study

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NAH/is_2_33/ai_97177902

Cholesterol-lowering foods most effective when combined, U of T study

http://tinyurl.com/y5m776

Cholesterol Reduction

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-032.shtml

I agree with the WAP info

about cholesterol. Not something we should be screwing around

with. There are many people with all kinds of damage done to their

bodies from taking statins. Again, big pharma leading the way.

Did you know that they lowered what used to be considered normal

for both blood pressure and cholesterol? Opened up a whole new

consumer market.

>

> Linn

[Guest guest]

- have him read this. It's in my other post, but I didn't want

you to miss it. It's from the Nat'l Institute of Health PubMed. It

is VITAL that he get tested for hypothyroidism if there's a

possibility that he's hypo and taking statins. The two don't mix

well:

HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors (statins) might cause high elevations

of creatine phosphokinase (CK) in patients with unnoticed

hypothyroidism.

http://tinyurl. com/ylmzg2

****** " ...We must not begin and continue to use these drugs without

checking the possibility of hypothyroidism... " ***** !!!! (astericks

mine)

> Amy,

>

> I almost wish my hubby would have a negative side effect from

taking Lipitor. But he doesn't and it does bring down his

cholesterol.

>

> He has classic signs of thyroid issues. One day maybe he will be

willing to do a saliva test. But his beliefs in doctors would like

prohibit self treatment.

>

> I always laugh when on other message board members are advised to

do this and that, discuss this and that with a medical

professional. I've been down that road far to many times. That's

not saying that I am totally comfortable with self treatment...it's

just the only way I am able to keep on living.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Right! I will! And thank you much...my brain doesn't function at all well

these days without any thyroid meds. The good news is my HC arrived today.

jtb14789 wrote: - have him read this. It's in my other

post, but I didn't want

you to miss it. It's from the Nat'l Institute of Health PubMed. It

is VITAL that he get tested for hypothyroidism if there's a

possibility that he's hypo and taking statins. The two don't mix

well:

HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors (statins) might cause high elevations

of creatine phosphokinase (CK) in patients with unnoticed

hypothyroidism.

http://tinyurl. com/ylmzg2

****** " ...We must not begin and continue to use these drugs without

checking the possibility of hypothyroidism... " ***** !!!! (astericks

mine)

> Amy,

>

> I almost wish my hubby would have a negative side effect from

taking Lipitor. But he doesn't and it does bring down his

cholesterol.

>

> He has classic signs of thyroid issues. One day maybe he will be

willing to do a saliva test. But his beliefs in doctors would like

prohibit self treatment.

>

> I always laugh when on other message board members are advised to

do this and that, discuss this and that with a medical

professional. I've been down that road far to many times. That's

not saying that I am totally comfortable with self treatment...it's

just the only way I am able to keep on living.

>

>

>