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In a message dated 08/11/2006 16:57:56 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

What is the difference in thyrid meds and adrenal meds from now to that

least labs?

Do you mean from my very first labs? If so, that was before I started h.c

and Armour, just getting a baseline fot future comparison.

I was waaaaaaaaay over with the 24-hour urine though Val which is said to

show what is in the cells?

Mo

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In a message dated 08/11/2006 17:30:41 GMT Standard Time, NOVAexeter@...

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What is the difference in thyrid meds and adrenal meds from now to that

least labs

or did you mean the labs just done last week? These were done on 2 grains

and 20 mg h.c and I raised to 2 1.4 grains same day after the test. That is a

week ago.

Mo

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In a message dated 08/11/2006 18:51:06 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

I would think urine would only show what has gone through your body

which if your body is not utilizing it might well make it too high.

I don't know the intricacies of this, it is what Hertoghe uses so that is

why I thought it was agood option.

I don't think thyroid saliva is available here and if it is I was not aware

of it. I really wanted to double-check the GP's blood test.

To be sure, to be sure, to be sure as they say in the Old ~Country!

Mo

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Hi MO,

What dose of armour and hc are you taking, I have forgotten, take

care.

Duane

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> Gp's secretary just rang with the following results:

>

> TSH 0.04 (0.25 - 5.5)

> FT4 10.6 (9.7 - 25.7)

> and

> T3 (can I assume they mean FT3 as secretary did not know?) simply

4. (3.7 -

> 6.9)

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> Below are my test results from August of this year when I must

have been

> over-medicated. I had a 24-hour thyroid urine done shortly

afterwards which

> confirmed the blood results in this August test - in fact the 24-

hr urine test

> showed FT4 slightly over range, that was the only difference I

think:

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> TSH 0.01 (0.25 - 5.5)

> ft4 18.9 (9.7 - 25.7)

> ft3 8.9 (3.7 - 6.9)

>

> and going back 18 months these were my then results:

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> TSH 1.79 (0.25 - 5.5)

> Free T4 15.3 (9.7 - 25.7)

> Free T3 4.4 (3.7 - 6.9)

>

> Any wonder I feel like I have gone back a couple of years in terms

of

> symptoms, my present labs are wose than they were way back then!

>

> Mo

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> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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>>TSH 0.04 (0.25 - 5.5)

FT4 10.6 (9.7 - 25.7)

and

T3 (can I assume they mean FT3 as secretary did not know?) simply 4. (3.7 -

6.9)

Below are my test results from August of this year when I must have been

over-medicated. I had a 24-hour thyroid urine done shortly afterwards which

confirmed the blood results in this August test - in fact the 24-hr urine test

showed FT4 slightly over range, that was the only difference I think:

TSH 0.01 (0.25 - 5.5)

ft4 18.9 (9.7 - 25.7)

ft3 8.9 (3.7 - 6.9)

and going back 18 months these were my then results:

TSH 1.79 (0.25 - 5.5)

Free T4 15.3 (9.7 - 25.7)

Free T3 4.4 (3.7 - 6.9)<<

Mo I still do not think you were over medicated with the over range T3. I think

that was adrenals not allowing it inot your system. You are now hypo. What is

the difference in thyrid meds and adrenal meds from now to that least labs?

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I would think urine would only show what has gone through your body

which if your body is not utilizing it might well make it too high.

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Val:

That is a good point. My doc used the urine levels to say I was low in all

adrenal hormones and low in T3. I guess saliva is the way to go.

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I would think urine would only show what has gone through your body

which if your body is not utilizing it might well make it too high.

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In a message dated 09/11/2006 01:02:54 GMT Standard Time,

smann writes:

.. My doc used the urine levels to say I was low in all

adrenal hormones and low in T3. I guess saliva is the way

and i turned out that you were not ?

Help me understand this?

How would saliva be different in this respect and is the 24h-hr urine used

by Hertoghe different from an ordinary one-off thyroid urine test? I assumed

he would know what he was doing which is why I used it to confirm the blood

test.

Mo

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In a message dated 10/11/2006 01:53:36 GMT Standard Time,

smann writes:

I assumed the 24 hour urine was accurate but that was questioned so I

figured saliva was the best test.

Hi

You mean the whole basis of the validityof the 24-hr thyroid urine was

questioned, felt not to be any use?

Thanks.

Mo

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Mo:

I assumed the 24 hour urine was accurate but that was questioned so I

figured saliva was the best test. I was low in all adrenal hormones and low

in T3, according to the urine. That is all the testing I have had. So with

those results I was started on cortef and Armour.

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In a message dated 09/11/2006 01:02:54 GMT Standard Time,

smann writes:

... My doc used the urine levels to say I was low in all

adrenal hormones and low in T3. I guess saliva is the way

and i turned out that you were not ?

Help me understand this?

How would saliva be different in this respect and is the 24h-hr urine used

by Hertoghe different from an ordinary one-off thyroid urine test? I assumed

he would know what he was doing which is why I used it to confirm the blood

test.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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