Re: food

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Dear , Are you frying the eggs in real butter? Butter is good. If you are using margarine or any oil other than olive or coconut, that would be a bad fat. I have a trick with pasta. Sometimes I crave it, and like you, I use a whole grain. However, I have to have protein with every meal. So while the pasta is cooking I eat a cup of cottage cheese. I'm not saying cottage cheese tastes great, that is why I don't eat it with the meal. But I have to get the protein in me at every meal. Then I can go on and enjoy the brown rice pasta with spinach, artichoke hearts, garlic, olive oil, and fresh parmesan. For some unknown reason I don't like eating meat with pasta. Hope this helps,

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Will fitting a meal time into your routine work for you? How about finding

ways to transition into eating and/or preparing food?

Those two things have worked for me in the past. In fact, about a week ago I

was melting down and couldn't organize my thoughts, couldn't do much of

anything except sleep, and I certainly didn't feel like eating, but I forced

myself to eat because it was time to eat. It's probably not very healthy,

but it works for me.

I also have a little bit of trouble transitioning into preparing food. I can

cook, but the first step is always the hardest. Once I get past the first

step, it's smooth sailing. If I don't feel like cooking, but I have the

energy to boil water, for example, I'll put the water on and somehow I'll

get the energy to cook.

Also, maybe if you plan ahead what you are going to eat and what you need

from the store, you won't have as much of a problem. I do this once a week

if I can. It helps me a lot, but cooking also serves as a creative outlet

for me.

I have the same problem that you do when it comes to food that's been

sitting around for a while. I just don't consider old food edible anymore,

regardless of whether or not it actually is. I'm trying to break myself of

this habit, but with no luck.

Finally, going without food for a long period of time kills my appetite. It

should increase my appetite, but instead, I look at the food I want to eat

and immediately feel sick. The best thing is to break the cycle; if you

start eating again, even just one complete meal at once, food in general

will seem more palatable.

My advice is probably too simplistic for you, but I hope it helps.

~

>

> Well, folks, maybe I am starving in the midst of plenty.

>

> I really have not been able to eat for months. I mean eat, not eat

> right. Eating right would require a certain amount of food from

> several food groups. Eating at all is the problem. So I am writing to

> see if anyone has any tricks or tips for getting oneself to eat when

> one is too stressed to eat, all the food looks gross. ALL of it. I

> can feed my son but I don't eat any of it. I get maybe one meal a day

> total and it's a pretty skewed meal if one cares to look at food

> groups. Some days I just have caffeine and dreadful things like

> Poptarts. Because they are the only thing I can make myself eat. I

> don't even like those.

>

> Cognitive admonitions such as " You will get sick/die/get cancer/not

> be your kid/ " seem to have no effect on me. I don't know that I need

> to be SCARED into eating. I need to maybe have a step by step plan

> including things like " take a fork out of the drawer... " Jeez. I

> can't even tell you how many times I feed my son and a couple of

> minutes later he says, " MOMMY! Give me a FORK! " Yeesh.

>

> I am just not sure about this problem at all. I know it has been

> going on since April or May. I never was a healthy eater but that

> coupled with lack of interest makes it much worse.

>

> If there are things in the fridge that have been there a few days,

> they no longer count as food to me, even if they have not started to

> go bad. I would need to go get a new batch of whatever it is. But

> that would entail SHOPPING.

>

> I also am so busy with my work that I can't figure out how to take

> the time to go shopping. I go shopping, I might miss a deadline.

>

> The house could be full of things I theoretically like to eat but if

> it involves ANY preparation, I can't eat them. I sometimes get

> dreadful pre-cooked packages of TV dinners or frozen pasta combos,

> but if I run out, I don't get back to eating them for weeks.

>

> I think I get STUCK and can't go through all the steps of getting

> something to eat.... deciding what I might like, seeing if we have

> it, getting stuck looking in the fridge/pantry/shelves. This takes

> many minutes a day, just looking in those areas. And finally closing

> all the doors and going away and trying again later with the same

> results.

>

> My husband has been offering me food and I will take a couple of

> bites and then put it in the fridge hoping I can finish later.

>

> Anyway, any ideas about how to jumpstart my eating would be

> appreciated. I know the vet once gave my dog an injection to make him

> want to eat. Maybe they have those for humans. I wonder what it would

> make me want to eat first?

>

> I will bet if I could afford to go to a place that had hot food, like

> Whole Foods Market, and put some in a plastic thing and get a plastic

> fork, I could eat it. But it's a half hour drive one way and I can't

> afford those prices.

>

> I sound so helpless. I really am so helpless. When it comes to food.

>

> Rhonda

>

>

>

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I have to agree with the set meal times. I try to schedule my breakfast’s

around 6 AM, my lunch breaks at work from 11-11:30 AM, and my dinner’s

around 4:30 or so, time permitting. My coworkers know that I’m usually very

punctual about my lunch, and they rarely ever disturb me unless it is

critically important that they ask me for help (as is sometimes needed

because I work in healthcare and having the computers up can sometimes mean

the difference between life and death).

However, a set routine that you can tell others will help significantly. I

also like to try and have very simple to prepare meals that rarely involve

more than 4-5 ingredients total, and which usually take never more than

30-35 minutes to prepare and cook.

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Carlo

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:35 PM

To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse

Subject: Re: food

Will fitting a meal time into your routine work for you? How about finding

ways to transition into eating and/or preparing food?

Those two things have worked for me in the past. In fact, about a week ago I

was melting down and couldn't organize my thoughts, couldn't do much of

anything except sleep, and I certainly didn't feel like eating, but I forced

myself to eat because it was time to eat. It's probably not very healthy,

but it works for me.

I also have a little bit of trouble transitioning into preparing food. I can

cook, but the first step is always the hardest. Once I get past the first

step, it's smooth sailing. If I don't feel like cooking, but I have the

energy to boil water, for example, I'll put the water on and somehow I'll

get the energy to cook.

Also, maybe if you plan ahead what you are going to eat and what you need

from the store, you won't have as much of a problem. I do this once a week

if I can. It helps me a lot, but cooking also serves as a creative outlet

for me.

I have the same problem that you do when it comes to food that's been

sitting around for a while. I just don't consider old food edible anymore,

regardless of whether or not it actually is. I'm trying to break myself of

this habit, but with no luck.

Finally, going without food for a long period of time kills my appetite. It

should increase my appetite, but instead, I look at the food I want to eat

and immediately feel sick. The best thing is to break the cycle; if you

start eating again, even just one complete meal at once, food in general

will seem more palatable.

My advice is probably too simplistic for you, but I hope it helps.

~

On 1/11/07, rhndroberts <rhndroberts@ <mailto:rhndroberts%40yahoo.com>

yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> Well, folks, maybe I am starving in the midst of plenty.

>

> I really have not been able to eat for months. I mean eat, not eat

> right. Eating right would require a certain amount of food from

> several food groups. Eating at all is the problem. So I am writing to

> see if anyone has any tricks or tips for getting oneself to eat when

> one is too stressed to eat, all the food looks gross. ALL of it. I

> can feed my son but I don't eat any of it. I get maybe one meal a day

> total and it's a pretty skewed meal if one cares to look at food

> groups. Some days I just have caffeine and dreadful things like

> Poptarts. Because they are the only thing I can make myself eat. I

> don't even like those.

>

> Cognitive admonitions such as " You will get sick/die/get cancer/not

> be your kid/ " seem to have no effect on me. I don't know that I need

> to be SCARED into eating. I need to maybe have a step by step plan

> including things like " take a fork out of the drawer... " Jeez. I

> can't even tell you how many times I feed my son and a couple of

> minutes later he says, " MOMMY! Give me a FORK! " Yeesh.

>

> I am just not sure about this problem at all. I know it has been

> going on since April or May. I never was a healthy eater but that

> coupled with lack of interest makes it much worse.

>

> If there are things in the fridge that have been there a few days,

> they no longer count as food to me, even if they have not started to

> go bad. I would need to go get a new batch of whatever it is. But

> that would entail SHOPPING.

>

> I also am so busy with my work that I can't figure out how to take

> the time to go shopping. I go shopping, I might miss a deadline.

>

> The house could be full of things I theoretically like to eat but if

> it involves ANY preparation, I can't eat them. I sometimes get

> dreadful pre-cooked packages of TV dinners or frozen pasta combos,

> but if I run out, I don't get back to eating them for weeks.

>

> I think I get STUCK and can't go through all the steps of getting

> something to eat.... deciding what I might like, seeing if we have

> it, getting stuck looking in the fridge/pantry/shelves. This takes

> many minutes a day, just looking in those areas. And finally closing

> all the doors and going away and trying again later with the same

> results.

>

> My husband has been offering me food and I will take a couple of

> bites and then put it in the fridge hoping I can finish later.

>

> Anyway, any ideas about how to jumpstart my eating would be

> appreciated. I know the vet once gave my dog an injection to make him

> want to eat. Maybe they have those for humans. I wonder what it would

> make me want to eat first?

>

> I will bet if I could afford to go to a place that had hot food, like

> Whole Foods Market, and put some in a plastic thing and get a plastic

> fork, I could eat it. But it's a half hour drive one way and I can't

> afford those prices.

>

> I sound so helpless. I really am so helpless. When it comes to food.

>

> Rhonda

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

At first I read it and thought " No, that won't work... " but then I

made myself actually read it and one thing struck me, which is the

thing about boiling the water and then you get the energy to make

something. It reminds me of a piano teacher I had once who told me I

must sit at the piano for 15 minutes, regardless of whether or not I

play it. He knew once I sat there I would start playing. It was at a

time where I was just starting lessons again and did not know how to

get myself to practice. It worked for me as I went back to school and

got a music degree! So, maybe, just maybe, I could try it with

boiling water.

Planning meals is not my forte, but I know if I COULD do it AND could

make the food I bought, it would make sense. My husband and I bought

a week's worth of menu--- so, 7 meals, some of which used leftovers

from the others. We did it for about 3 days and the rest just sat

there. I don't THINK my husband is autistic... not sure what he is

other thanmaybe too many drugs in the 1970s...

No, I didn't think it was too simplistic. Right now I NEED simplistic

stuff. I am printing out what you wrote to take into the kitchen to

help me get started.

ANYONE ELSE. I PROBABLY NEED MORE IDEAS, TOO.

I keep wishing I could get meals on wheels delivered but I probably

have to be on disability, huh? I certainly have been feeling disabled

for the past 9 months. I've been overall feeling more disabled,

comparatively speaking, than at any other time in my life except when

I was laid up with a bad back for three months once. I am losing

skills left and right. And the dyspraxia... oh my. Oh well, thanks

for reading. I am just GREATEFUL I found out I am autistic or some of

this stuff would be scaring the crap out of me.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

I have sort off the same problem regarding eating regularly and yup, my

fridge is full and need a cleanup of about 25% of its content. One thing

which I do once in a while is to prepare large batch of food and freeze most

of it but I'm not that consistent regarding keeping a good rotation and

level of the fridge (either it's too full or there's nothing).

Sorry

Alain

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I think it's true for a lot of people that not eating causes a

decrease in appetite. So the first thing to do, probably, is to get

one's self to eat at least a little bit on a regular schedule.

Different people find different scheduling mechanisms useful. Setting

timers, putting notes in un-ignorable places, marking off on a chart,

asking someone to call as a reminder, whatever. There is plenty of

good food that doesn't require any preparation. Maybe you could find

some things that you tolerate well and keep them out where you will

encounter them regularly -- or at least be able to find them easily

when your schedule tells you it's time to eat. Nuts and seeds, for

example. They can be bought in bulk (not necessarily huge amounts,

but usually cheaper than buying them pre-bagged) at many grocery

stores these days, and they keep well. If you eat dairy, cheese and

yogurt can be stored in the refrigerator in snack-sized servings, and

both keep well. A can of soup can be a good meal and can be combined

with crackers or bread if you are so inclined.

As I said, I don't think it has to be a full meal or even a cooked

serving, as long as you eat something on a regular basis. You could

see if eating a little bit five times a day (something you could eat

without making a big deal of it) might work better for you than

trying to have " a meal " two or three times.

I read when I eat. Is there something you do every day that could be

combined with eating, assuming you were eating something that didn't

take preparation?

Jane

[Guest guest]

> I really have not been able to eat for months. I mean eat, not eat

> right.

I think it's okay to eat a few bites, if that's what makes you

happy. The only hard part is avoiding things like the poptarts,

etc. Or better yet, just avoid anything with transfats (i.e.,

hydrogenated fats), artificial stuff.

Then find some things that you get along with, for example

yogurt if you like that. If there's something at the Whole

Foods hot bar, just figure out how to make that stuff.

Another way to deal with prepared foods/preparing foods, is to

find some basic stuff, like Ann's Soups (Whole Foods) and add

this or that. That's just an example, but it's a shortcut to

the things that are attractive at the Whole Foods $7.95/lb hot

bar.

- s

[Guest guest]

Hello Rhonda, its like here at times by the end of the week their is no

> hardly food in the fridge, so then I have to have whats in there even i can

> be a bit fussy that i don't want to eat that lol, Susie

>

> Well, folks, maybe I am starving in the midst of plenty.

>

> I really have not been able to eat for months. I mean eat, not eat

> right. Eating right would require a certain amount of food from

> several food groups. Eating at all is the problem. So I am writing to

> see if anyone has any tricks or tips for getting oneself to eat when

> one is too stressed to eat, all the food looks gross. ALL of it. I

> can feed my son but I don't eat any of it. I get maybe one meal a day

> total and it's a pretty skewed meal if one cares to look at food

> groups. Some days I just have caffeine and dreadful things like

> Poptarts. Because they are the only thing I can make myself eat. I

> don't even like those.

>

> Cognitive admonitions such as " You will get sick/die/get cancer/not

> be your kid/ " seem to have no effect on me. I don't know that I need

> to be SCARED into eating. I need to maybe have a step by step plan

> including things like " take a fork out of the drawer... " Jeez. I

> can't even tell you how many times I feed my son and a couple of

> minutes later he says, " MOMMY! Give me a FORK! " Yeesh.

>

> I am just not sure about this problem at all. I know it has been

> going on since April or May. I never was a healthy eater but that

> coupled with lack of interest makes it much worse.

>

> If there are things in the fridge that have been there a few days,

> they no longer count as food to me, even if they have not started to

> go bad. I would need to go get a new batch of whatever it is. But

> that would entail SHOPPING.

>

> I also am so busy with my work that I can't figure out how to take

> the time to go shopping. I go shopping, I might miss a deadline.

>

> The house could be full of things I theoretically like to eat but if

> it involves ANY preparation, I can't eat them. I sometimes get

> dreadful pre-cooked packages of TV dinners or frozen pasta combos,

> but if I run out, I don't get back to eating them for weeks.

>

> I think I get STUCK and can't go through all the steps of getting

> something to eat.... deciding what I might like, seeing if we have

> it, getting stuck looking in the fridge/pantry/shelves. This takes

> many minutes a day, just looking in those areas. And finally closing

> all the doors and going away and trying again later with the same

> results.

>

> My husband has been offering me food and I will take a couple of

> bites and then put it in the fridge hoping I can finish later.

>

> Anyway, any ideas about how to jumpstart my eating would be

> appreciated. I know the vet once gave my dog an injection to make him

> want to eat. Maybe they have those for humans. I wonder what it would

> make me want to eat first?

>

> I will bet if I could afford to go to a place that had hot food, like

> Whole Foods Market, and put some in a plastic thing and get a plastic

> fork, I could eat it. But it's a half hour drive one way and I can't

> afford those prices.

>

> I sound so helpless. I really am so helpless. When it comes to food.

>

> Rhonda

>

>

>

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Rhonda,

Have you tried letting your kids or husband 'pull'

actions out of you naturally (as they need the same things;

some actions for N persons need less than N times

effort than for one), not 'push' them on you when you

don't feel ready ? This may help with inertia.

May not help if the problem is deliberate aversion...

> I need to maybe have a step by step plan

> including things like " take a fork out of the drawer... " Jeez. I

> can't even tell you how many times I feed my son and a couple of

> minutes later he says, " MOMMY! Give me a FORK! " Yeesh.

Best wishes !

Mircea

[Guest guest]

It was 12 Jan 2007, when rhndroberts commented:

> Well, folks, maybe I am starving in the midst of plenty.

> My husband has been offering me food and I will take a couple of

> bites and then put it in the fridge hoping I can finish later.

Nothing wrong with that. If you have a problem with eating stuff being

important, then make it unimportant. I live with my sister, and somehow

she manages to make sure I eat, though she's at least AC.

> Anyway, any ideas about how to jumpstart my eating would be

> appreciated. I know the vet once gave my dog an injection to make him want

> to eat. Maybe they have those for humans. I wonder what it would make me

> want to eat first?

>

> I will bet if I could afford to go to a place that had hot food, like Whole

> Foods Market, and put some in a plastic thing and get a plastic fork, I

> could eat it. But it's a half hour drive one way and I can't afford those

> prices.

For breakfast, I have those Quaker Oats oatmeal squares. Nothing

impressive, just a compressed block of food. When I feel real hungry, I

grab one and chew my way through it. Nourishing and simple.

When I get to work, I have my Work Soup, basically those s Chunky

Soups in microwaveable, disposeable bowls. Two minutes in the microwave,

one plastic spoon, I eat one and I'm done eating.

> I sound so helpless. I really am so helpless. When it comes to food.

The trick is to make food simple. Absolutely nothing wrong with expecting

eating to be simple, the NTs expect the same, and there's stuff that works

for that.

I suspect once you stop feeling guilty for not eating something more

complicated, just eat simple stuff till you're done eating, you'll be

fine. Think about those all-purpose vitamin supliments they hve now. If

what you eat isn't enough, what you swallow pill-wise will take up the

slack.

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" You are a child of the Universe, no less than

the trees and the stars; you have a right to

be here. "

[Guest guest]

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the flavors are pretty gross but I like chocolate so I get that. Sometimes I

pour it in a mug and heat it up for hot chocolate.

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It was 11 Jan 2007, when Alain Toussaint commented:

> I have sort off the same problem regarding eating regularly and yup, my

> fridge is full and need a cleanup of about 25% of its content. One thing

> which I do once in a while is to prepare large batch of food and freeze

> most of it but I'm not that consistent regarding keeping a good rotation

> and level of the fridge (either it's too full or there's nothing).

I am either blessed or cursed with a sister who may or may not be just

like me in some ways, and who is very definite about throwing out stuff

when the date on the stuff says it's time. For me, it's food, and you

don't throw out food, you eat food. Green food you gotta throw out, but

if it isn't green and doesn't smell bad, you don't throw it out.

So she throws it out, because the date says.

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It was 12 Jan 2007, when rhndroberts commented:

> At first I read it and thought " No, that won't work... " but then I

> made myself actually read it and one thing struck me, which is the thing

> about boiling the water and then you get the energy to make something. It

> reminds me of a piano teacher I had once who told me I must sit at the

> piano for 15 minutes, regardless of whether or not I play it. He knew once

> I sat there I would start playing. It was at a time where I was just

> starting lessons again and did not know how to get myself to practice. It

> worked for me as I went back to school and got a music degree! So, maybe,

> just maybe, I could try it with boiling water.

I have my sister buy vast quantities of those s Chunky Soups in

the microwaveable bowls. I take those to work. That's my Work Soup.

Periodically my sister asks me if I need more Work Soup, or plastic

spoons. I use one plastic spoon a day, to eat my Work Soup. Because I

know if I don't have something simple that I always have there that's

simple to prepare, I simply won't eat at work. Go to the vending machines

and spend money to buy food? I HAVE food. So I won't buy it.

And I'll never make whatever to put in my specially-purchased insulated

lunch box. Because then I gotta decide to do it, and take time to make

something. And when I'm home, I'm not at work, and I shouldn't have to

think about work, or stuff for work. Work sucks enough already.

Microwaveable, self-contained soups work should well for your purpose.

Take off the plastic lid, take out the metal lid and discard it, put back

the plastic lid. Microwave 2 minutes. Open and eat.

Throw away the bowl, and the spoon. Walk away and do alla that other

stuff you hadda stop doing just to eat.

Hey, at least you ate something.

We have sandwich sliced cheese and sandwich sliced meat and sliced bread

all available in the house. I grab a package of meat and eat slices of

meat till I've had enough and then I stop.

When I make sandwiches, I make them the same way in the toaster oven. And

then I go back to what I was doing (reading and responding to email),

eating and typing as needed. Had a hot meal.

Granted there a whole lot of good reasons to make something fresh. But if

I take twenty minutes to make something to eat, then I end up twenty

minutes older and all I did was eat.

Keep it simple. Make something, eat it, stop.

Life is too short.

Hope this helps. Why it helps, if you don't know yet, it doesn't matter I

said it.

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[Guest guest]

> I have my sister buy vast quantities of those s Chunky Soups in

> the microwaveable bowls.

.... although these should probably be removed from the

" microwavable " bowl before sticking in the microwave:

http://www.scn.org/~bk269/plastics.html

- s

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>

>

>I have my sister buy vast quantities of those s Chunky Soups in

>the microwaveable bowls. I take those to work. That's my Work Soup.

>Periodically my sister asks me if I need more Work Soup, or plastic

>spoons. I use one plastic spoon a day, to eat my Work Soup.

>

>Microwaveable, self-contained soups work should well for your purpose.

>Take off the plastic lid, take out the metal lid and discard it, put back

>the plastic lid. Microwave 2 minutes. Open and eat.

The only thing that bothers me about this is that it's incredibly wasteful. Just

think about all the garbage generated from all the disposable bowls/cups and

spoons. <sigh> And, as someone else already pointed out, plastic containers are

not a good idea for microwaves.

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>

>

> Green food you gotta throw out, but

>if it isn't green and doesn't smell bad, you don't throw it out.

Yup, you don't throw it out until it has fur on it. :

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What about peaches, then? They've always got a little bit of fuzz growing on

them

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> >From: <dbsmith@... <dbsmith%40atbbs.dyndns.org>>

> >

> > Green food you gotta throw out, but

> >if it isn't green and doesn't smell bad, you don't throw it out.

>

> Yup, you don't throw it out until it has fur on it. :

>

> D.

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>What about peaches, then? They've always got a little bit of fuzz growing on

>them

Good catch! But you can always peel the skin.

D.

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> The only thing that bothers me about this is that it's incredibly

> wasteful. Just think about all the garbage generated from all the

> disposable bowls/cups and spoons. <sigh> And, as someone else

> already pointed out, plastic containers are not a good idea for

> microwaves.

I have food preparation problems that are pretty severe, too -- and

I, too, have thought of the microwaveable bowls and the waste

involved. You can partially compensate for the wastefulness. At

work, I have a drawer with a couple of dishes in it (microwaveable,

of course). I use those to heat my lunch. Of course, the problem

with that is that instead of throwing away a microwaveable bowl,

you're throwing away the can that held whatever it is you're putting

into the microwaveable bowl. It's not a perfect solution, but it's

not a perfect world.

--Parrish

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I am a freak I know but I eat very little cooked food. I mostly live

on fruit, seeds, nuts and salad greens. I rarely eat hot food. Fruit

is the most perfect food. It comes pre packaged in a biodegradable

container, is naturally sweet and nutrient dense. It is also very

fast. I will have eaten my lunch in much less time than it would

take to even receive an order at a fast food outlet. If I am out I

just stop at the supermarket instead of a Mcd's grab some fruit and

be done with it. Those pouches of tuna are good if you need protein.

Seeds and nuts are good sources of protein. No cooking needed.

GJ

> > The only thing that bothers me about this is that it's

incredibly

> > wasteful. Just think about all the garbage generated from all

the

> > disposable bowls/cups and spoons. <sigh> And, as someone else

> > already pointed out, plastic containers are not a good idea for

> > microwaves.

>

> I have food preparation problems that are pretty severe, too --

and

> I, too, have thought of the microwaveable bowls and the waste

> involved. You can partially compensate for the wastefulness. At

> work, I have a drawer with a couple of dishes in it

(microwaveable,

> of course). I use those to heat my lunch. Of course, the

problem

> with that is that instead of throwing away a microwaveable bowl,

> you're throwing away the can that held whatever it is you're

putting

> into the microwaveable bowl. It's not a perfect solution, but

it's

> not a perfect world.

>

> --Parrish

> <o>

>

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>I am a freak I know but I eat very little cooked food. I mostly live

> on fruit, seeds, nuts and salad greens. I rarely eat hot food. Fruit

> is the most perfect food. It comes pre packaged in a biodegradable

> container, is naturally sweet and nutrient dense. It is also very

> fast. I will have eaten my lunch in much less time than it would

> take to even receive an order at a fast food outlet. If I am out I

> just stop at the supermarket instead of a Mcd's grab some fruit and

> be done with it. Those pouches of tuna are good if you need protein.

> Seeds and nuts are good sources of protein. No cooking needed.

You must be super healthy!

D.

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> I am a freak I know but I eat very little cooked food. I mostly

> live on fruit, seeds, nuts and salad greens. I rarely eat hot food.

I wouldn't say that makes you a freak. Unusual, yes, but not freaky.

> Fruit is the most perfect food. It comes pre packaged in a

> biodegradable container, is naturally sweet and nutrient dense. It

> is also very fast. I will have eaten my lunch in much less time

> than it would take to even receive an order at a fast food outlet.

> If I am out I just stop at the supermarket instead of a Mcd's grab

> some fruit and be done with it. Those pouches of tuna are good if

> you need protein. Seeds and nuts are good sources of protein. No

> cooking needed.

Those are all good alternatives, too, and certainly those things are

a lot better for you than the crap that most people (including

myself) put into their bodies. They also have their drawbacks,

though. I would prefer to get more fresh fruit in my diet, but I

don't for a few reasons:

1) I simply don't care for most fruit.

2) I worry about it spoiling. If it did, I would have to go to the

grocery store more frequently. I have a lot of autism-related

problems with going to the grocery store and almost never do it,

preferring instead to have groceries delivered. There is a $50

minimum on deliveries with my service, and the fees are high unless

you order at least $100 worth. Since I live alone, the most cost-

effective way for me to use the service is to place very large orders

and stock up on non-perishable items.

3) Most types of fruit are just very expensive. (Although there are

a few exceptions, such as bananas and oranges.) I looked at them

just yesterday specifically for this purpose, seeing about maybe

getting more fruit into my diet somehow. Strawberries, for example,

are currently five dollars a pound thru my delivery service -- and

that's a sale price. Blackberries, blueberries, and cherries are all

going for far more than that. Even the humble grape is about four

dollars a pound By way of comparison, most varieties of canned

vegetables (which I do eat a lot of) go for about sixty or seventy

cents for a one-pound can.

[Guest guest]

> > I am a freak I know but I eat very little cooked food. I mostly

> > live on fruit, seeds, nuts and salad greens. I rarely eat hot

food.

>

> I wouldn't say that makes you a freak. Unusual, yes, but not

freaky

The people at work freak about the way I eat. I do not know another

person that has my dietary habits. I do get a lot of comments on how

good my food looks and smells.

>

> > Fruit is the most perfect food. It comes pre packaged in a

> > biodegradable container, is naturally sweet and nutrient dense.

It

> > is also very fast. I will have eaten my lunch in much less time

> > than it would take to even receive an order at a fast food

outlet.

> > If I am out I just stop at the supermarket instead of a Mcd's

grab

> > some fruit and be done with it. Those pouches of tuna are good

if

> > you need protein. Seeds and nuts are good sources of protein.

No

> > cooking needed.

>

> Those are all good alternatives, too, and certainly those things

are

> a lot better for you than the crap that most people (including

> myself) put into their bodies. They also have their drawbacks,

> though. I would prefer to get more fresh fruit in my diet, but I

> don't for a few reasons:

>

> 1) I simply don't care for most fruit.

>

> 2) I worry about it spoiling. If it did, I would have to go to

the

> grocery store more frequently. I have a lot of autism-related

> problems with going to the grocery store and almost never do it,

> preferring instead to have groceries delivered. There is a $50

> minimum on deliveries with my service, and the fees are high

unless

> you order at least $100 worth. Since I live alone, the most cost-

> effective way for me to use the service is to place very large

orders

> and stock up on non-perishable items.

I go to the store on a daily basis. This is my social outlet, Beyond

my store trips I do not socialize at all.

>

> 3) Most types of fruit are just very expensive. (Although there

are

> a few exceptions, such as bananas and oranges.) I looked at them

> just yesterday specifically for this purpose, seeing about maybe

> getting more fruit into my diet somehow. Strawberries, for

example,

> are currently five dollars a pound thru my delivery service --

and

> that's a sale price. Blackberries, blueberries, and cherries are

all

> going for far more than that. Even the humble grape is about

four

> dollars a pound By way of comparison, most varieties of canned

> vegetables (which I do eat a lot of) go for about sixty or

seventy

> cents for a one-pound can.

>

This is true. Fruit is quite expensive. But if that is all you eat

you are not spending on other foods. In the warm weather you can

forage which is fun.

[Guest guest]

> The people at work freak about the way I eat.

Ah, the hell with them. :-) If they don't like your diet, they

don't have to follow it.

> I do not know another person that has my dietary habits.

True, they're rare, but they do exist. I used to be an OV-vegetarian

and was rather active with it in some ways. I met some people who

followed diets rather like yours. I even met some fruitarians

(people who eat nothing but fresh fruit, not too far off from what

your diet is).

> I do get a lot of comments on how good my food looks and smells.

That's interesting. I wouldn't have expected that, but I'm not

surprised, especially since almost everyone else is loading up on

crap. Your body chemistry is probably quite a bit healthier than

theirs, and I'm sure that effects your life, lifestyle, and health in

quite a variety of ways.

> Fruit is quite expensive. But if that is all you eat you are not

> spending on other foods.

True, but even so -- if I ate nothing but fresh fruit, my grocery

bill would probably double at least. I typically spend around five

dollars a day or so on food. It would be pretty hard to keep myself

filled up on fresh fruit for only five dollars a day, unless I did

something like eating only oranges and bananas, and I can definitely

tell you that that would get really old, really fast. I need a

certain amount of variety in my diet.

> In the warm weather you can forage which is fun.

That's pretty much a preference thing. I wouldn't enjoy it, myself,

but if you do, more power to you. :-)

--Parrish

<o>

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Food preparation is an issue for me. Building up an appetite on the

nights I have to feed myself is hard to do (but I always make myself

eat something, even if it's just a can of soup). My husband works in

the city for 3 days, stays overnight, the other 4 days he is off at

home. He cooks, but I usually hate being asked " what do you want for

supper? " because I just don't know. The 3 days he's not here, I

typically subsist on canned foods, frozen dinners or if it can all fit

on one cooking sheet (like fish and chips), I'll do that.

I gotta ask though, because I'm curious...how many of us are addicted

to nicotine (or on prescriptions that also decrease appetite)? I

smoke. I quit at one time for almost 2 years and during that time my

appetite was increased by a considerable amount, not just for the

duration of withdrawal, but continuously. I craved healthier foods as

well, such as salads, even prepared a good many (had more energy), and

of course, everything tasted better. The problem was no matter how

good I ate, I gained weight and felt worse in that way. But I should

have stuck with it...because smoking overall makes a person less

energetic, especially over a long period. And now, I'm starting to

have that " distaste " for cigarettes and it comes on the heels of a time

when I'm really having an issue with food (never hungry) and being

slack about it.

Stress also decreases appetite. I find having odd shifts at work

changes my relationship to food as well. I mean I DO love food, and

I'm usually good with trying new things and I love variety. But it's

easy to get in a rut...

Also, how many of us women autistics (especially) grew up expected to

help out in the kitchen (My family growing up was 2/3's female)? Did

it become almost a like a mission for any of you (I can't seem to word

what I'm trying to ask right) to avoid it and did it so well that

people finally give up? Or do you still struggle with it when you find

yourself in that situation? My family and my husband gave up on me,

but then any new in-laws/others have to be " trained " , lol. While I

really hate preparing food and being in the kitchen anyway, I

absolutely abhor being in the kitchen with other women, especially

since the others seem to know exactly what to do and I feel so at odds

with the setting and don't know what to do unless told to (which my mom

was always happy to do), while at the same time the male members of the

family sat in the livingroom feeling no obligation to help out. What I

do now at family gatherings is clean off the table in the dining room

where there's less chatter and noise and nobody to bump into...but as a

teenager/20 something, I totally refused to have anything to do with

any of it. It wasn't just that I was naturally at odds in the kitchen,

I hated having things expected of me based on what gender I am.

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